Turns out we may not even need much of a "what if" if things keep going this way.
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DoJ to sue colleges that "discriminate against white applicants" w/affirmative action
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Turns out we may not even need much of a "what if" if things keep going this way.
KojiKnight
Member
Where the progressives are and didn't vote would not have affected this election. This was an electoral college and gerrymandering fucking the majority of people in the country.
I know this is going to sound like a conspiracy theory but I truly feel/think that the old boys club saw the Obama Admin as a threat to their establishment. This (Trump in general) is a way to turn the tide and reclaim what ever they think they may have lost be it social, financial, or political. Just a thought.
Arrogant Bastard
Banned
OT: The vast majority of my family would fully support this policy, they ultimately feel that affirmative action is wholly a racist policy against qualified whites.
I don't understand this thought process at all. We are already overrepresented, which means there is no need to be salty about anything.
Aren't the majority beneficiaries of Affirmative Action white people in the first place?
https://www.vox.com/2016/5/25/11682950/fisher-supreme-court-white-women-affirmative-action
White women benefit the most from the law, and are some of the law's most ardent critics.
https://www.vox.com/2016/5/25/11682950/fisher-supreme-court-white-women-affirmative-action
White women benefit the most from the law, and are some of the law's most ardent critics.
Sir Abacus
Member
Next month: Sessions and his lackeys sue a HBCU for making an environment that's hostile towards racist white young adults.
Yes, and somewhat ironically, most of the time, that someone will almost certainly be a person who would never go to college in the first place.
GoldenEye 007
Member
They clearly won. They won when we botched reconstruction. They won when you have heavily minority school districts filled with schools named after the local Klan town's favorite confederate generals.
Darryl M R
Member
Also critics of AA say that it brings unqualified students of color into top schools but that doesn't explain how they graduate. If you applied to 10 top schools and didn't get into any maybe you aren't a top student.
White women would support something that goes against their best interest?
No.
White women would support something that goes against their best interest?
No.
At the rate things are going Black people and other minorities will be lucky if we can vote in the next election.
On topic though, I remember the case of Abigail Fisher who took her case all the way to supreme court because she believed that she deserved a spot at university even though she didn't have an outstanding resume or grades. Affirmative Action was almost taken down because of a mediocre white person.
We have HBCU's in this country for a reason. There was a reason why we, African Americans had to create our own universities. And with the way this admin is going, we're going to need more of them.
On topic though, I remember the case of Abigail Fisher who took her case all the way to supreme court because she believed that she deserved a spot at university even though she didn't have an outstanding resume or grades. Affirmative Action was almost taken down because of a mediocre white person.
We have HBCU's in this country for a reason. There was a reason why we, African Americans had to create our own universities. And with the way this admin is going, we're going to need more of them.
Arrogant Bastard
Banned
Not to be rude, but so? Doesn't mean it cannot go back with a different court and be changed.
WhiteRabbitEXE
Member
Probably my dad.
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
They what now.
democratic leadership arent talking about this enough and it's fucking upsetting.
Byakuya769
Member
But adverse selection affects Asian students more. Interesting choice, Sessions.
Aaronrules380
Member
I mean this assumes people are rational and empathetic creatures
And I'm sure all the underqualified white students that got in will be ignored while they focus on the few black and latino students just like she did.
There are lots of Asian American students who come from underprivileged backgrounds who might get treated the same as upper-class Asian Americans.
Incendiary
Banned
Ahhhh, fuck off Sessions. I hate this administration.
GoldenEye 007
Member
At extremely selective institutions, wouldn't that background be conveyed via essays, statements, recommendations, and interviews?
In holistic admissions settings, it's pretty hard to just hand-waive all of that information.
Goddamnit. Everything about this administration is so despicable. They might as well just say "Ok, here's the deal. We just don't like black people. Y'all were asking for it electing a black guy. We have 8 years of uppity black-mannery to make up for now. Deal with it."
That would at least be honest.
That would at least be honest.
TheExecutive
Member
Ahh how I long for WET...
Thanks every single asshole that voted Trump cause he had an R next to his name, because "Hillary was corrupt", Hillary wasn't Bernie, "to prove a point" or because they otherwise agree with some part of his "policy."
This is fucking ridiculous and I hope whatwver judge gets one of these cases laughs the DOJ out of the court.
This is fucking ridiculous and I hope whatwver judge gets one of these cases laughs the DOJ out of the court.
The makeup of the Court has not changed in a way that would make reversal likely.
You mean CMT and CBS
Darryl M R
Member
Yup. Top schools do not just toss applications in the trash when they see white or Asian. People are unwilling to admit that they are a bland applicant and will assume that a student of color at a top school only got there because of AA.
Apparently talk like that upsets "allies" :/
Abinash117
Member
Why are they against it?
TheExecutive
Member
I always hope that the best candidate gets picked but too often there are too many factors outside of the candidates control to allow this to happen which is why affirmative action exists. I do hate quotas for admission though but it's the reality of a fight against institutional racism.
I am waiting for an EO to force some states to change Indigenous Peoples Day back to Columbus Day.
Alpha Centauri
Member
in a nutshell
Call it Tomi logic. You benefit from it, but decry it because you deem others shouldn't be allowed to benefit as well.
TheExecutive
Member
Haha I have no idea. I don't have cable but that sounds right.
GoldenEye 007
Member
Racial/ethnic quotas for admissions do not exist. They've been illegal for decades.
AA is about expanding the applicant pool. But race alone does not give anyone a leg up or leg down when it comes to a decision. Background will. Experiences will. Challenges will.
Because black people benefit too.