Awesome, thanks a lot!
Dolphin - Emulating Wii and Gamecube Games
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Awesome, thanks a lot!
-bakalhau-
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How'd you get it to work?
Edit: Nevermind, seems like the latest versions got it working finally
BoobPhysics101
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So I already have Sin & Punishment, are there any other Wii games I should get to play with a 360 controller on Dolphin? Usually more of a 360/PS3/PC gamer, but I really like Sin & Punishment. I have no Wiimotes, however, so Wiimote-only games are excluded.
I have a beast PC so running most games shouldn't be a problem. GTX 570, Core i5 2500k @ 4.5 Ghz, 8 GB of RAM, SSD, etc
I have a beast PC so running most games shouldn't be a problem. GTX 570, Core i5 2500k @ 4.5 Ghz, 8 GB of RAM, SSD, etc
nincompoop
Banned
How did you dump your games if you don't own a Wiimote?
Completely wrong? Bit of a grey area, actually it's kinda black and white. Since the days of roms and emulators it's ALWAYS been expressed you need to own the roms and the HARDWARE that accompanies them to be able to play them.
Copyrighted code or not, it's emulating a system in which you have to pay for to play the games. I'll just sit in the corner and be quiet now though as it's kinda pointless me saying anything else.
BoobPhysics101
Banned
A friend of mine did it for me, but like I said, the only Wii game I bought and use on Dolphin is Sin & Punishment. Are there any other Wii games worth buying that work well on Dolphin with a 360 controller?
I couldn't resist S&P, it was like $13 on Amazon 6 months ago.
AbsoluteZero
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I'm pretty sure a Wii Remote comes bundled with every Wii sold in the US.
You uh...you are buying and dumping your own games I would hope.
BoobPhysics101
Banned
Amazon.com said:
Am I actually going to get an answer, or just thinly veiled accusations of piracy?
nincompoop
Banned
I wasn't accusing you of anything, I was just curious how you were getting your games if you don't have a Wiimote. I would recommend buying a Wiimote + Nunchuk + Bluetooth adaptor + Wireless sensor bar, since most games (including S&P) are going to play much better with it, but if that's not an option for you then I would check out Klonoa.
Not really, although it could be considered a grey area if he doesn't personally own the equipment necessary to make a legal backup of his games.
I'm pretty sure the moral code of emulation is that you own both the system and game, no?
AbsoluteZero
Banned
But why would you buy a game with no system to play it on?
BoobPhysics101
Banned
Cool, thanks. I can get a Bluetooth adapter I guess, I just kinda dislike the Wiimote for games.
My brother has a Wii if that counts. I've never used it though.
Because I'm a Treasure fanboy and wanted to play it on Dolphin in glorious HD.
No problem. Hopefully they are what you were looking for.
An emulator is a means to enable compatibility between systems. There's legal precedent establishing that this is perfectly valid. As you say, it's not a grey area -- as long as the rules are followed (no use of protected binary blobs/documentation in building the software) the situation is very clear: emulators are legal, regardless of whether you own the system being emulated.
(Now, in the specific case of Dolphin and the Wii, you'd be hard pressed to find a legal way to transfer your game software to your system without owning a Wii, but that's a separate issue)
Still don't know what's wrong.
jediyoshi
Member
If you're using a real Wiimote, there shouldn't be any areas inaccessible for the pointer despite the position setting. Have you tried setting the position to bottom to test? Are the areas still inaccesible if you use a mouse?
In SS, it seems motion controls work so much better when playing on an actual Wii. They do work on Dolphin, but they're so much cleaner and smoother on the Wii. Definitely makes the non-emulated experience vastly superior for me, no matter how great it looks on Dolphin (and how bad it looks sometimes, in terms of inaccurate rendering, slowdown, glitching).
Does anybody else know what I mean? Or have most people here only played on Dolphin? Unless you try the real version then you probably wouldn't notice, but once you do, it's so obvious. I'm starting to think *some* (obviously not all) complaints about motion controls come from Dolphin users.
Of course, it could be a technical issue on my side. I'm not sure how that'd be though, as I have it all set up correctly :S
All that said though, I'll be doing my second run on Dolphin. Should still be great, even if just visually.
Does anybody else know what I mean? Or have most people here only played on Dolphin? Unless you try the real version then you probably wouldn't notice, but once you do, it's so obvious. I'm starting to think *some* (obviously not all) complaints about motion controls come from Dolphin users.
Of course, it could be a technical issue on my side. I'm not sure how that'd be though, as I have it all set up correctly :S
All that said though, I'll be doing my second run on Dolphin. Should still be great, even if just visually.
jediyoshi
Member
That's a fairly broad statement. Do you mean in general, for the Wii or very specifically motionplus games? I'm hard pressed to find many complaints about regular Wiimote usage in Dolphin and obviously there's a big gap between the quality of emulation with and without.
Purely SS M+ usage. I'm not trying to discredit Dolphin in any way as it's an amazing creation, but my experience with this specific game and the motion controls shows that the true Wii hardware does a superior job.
And for a game that's centered around motion controls, it could lead to some bad impressions of it.
After having tried both in essentially your exact situation, I agree. Finished it on the Wii, went to Dolphin for "second playthrough" and ran into some of the problems people were talking about with the controls, whereas my experience on the actual console itself were near-flawless.
Which problems should that be? I compared them and I didn't notice any differences. My movement is 1:1 with the sword movement of link, that's how it should be, isn't it?
Are you sure "Skip EFB Access to CPU" (or soemthing) is off? 'Cause that messed up the aiming in Dolphin really bad.
If they all used Thoraxes' "internet famous" settings then...yes, I know where all the complaints are coming from.
He has it enabled and is also running with FSAA (which is causing gfx glitches).AA does not cause glitches for everyone. I used it all the way through with no problems. Others actually required it to get rid of bugs present when it was disabled.If they all used Thoraxes' "internet famous" settings then...yes, I know where all the complaints are coming from.
It's best to take a "try and see" approach.
Right. I wonder what makes the difference here, we are all using the same revision. It's weird that it glitches only for some.
Could be some difference between the PAL and NTSC versions, or maybe a conflict with certain drivers. All I know is the game worked exceedingly well for me from visuals to controls. It wasn't perfect, but problems were rare -- and often, what I ran into differed from the more ubiquitous glitches. It's either that, or the problems I had have not been reported on elsewhere.
Don't be so vague. Please explain what's bad and what's better on Wii. I don't notice a difference.
Never happened to me.
crisdecuba
Member
I played both and have had the same experience on both versions.
Haunted
Member
Yeah, I noticed that the Motion Plus Wiimote used on Dolphin seems to lose its centred calibration earlier than on the Wii itself, especially during sword play.
Could have a multitude of reasons, the quality of the sensor bar for example (I have a really cheap one). It forces me to play even more deliberately and carefully on the Dolphin. Improved graphics are well worth it, though.
Could have a multitude of reasons, the quality of the sensor bar for example (I have a really cheap one). It forces me to play even more deliberately and carefully on the Dolphin. Improved graphics are well worth it, though.
Not at the first slash though, right? It gets "off" the more you swing, but much earlier than on the Wii. At least that's the way for me.
crisdecuba
Member
Haha you are right it was ambiguous. I have had the same experience playing it on the wii as I have had playing it on the dolphin.
And for what its worth, I played about 3 or 4 hours into the game on the wii, and then switched to the dolphin version and redid the same 3 to 4 hours before continuing on with the rest of the game.
Okay, yeah, same here. I have to say, while the 1:1 trackign works mighty fine, the sword gameplay is still...I don't know...waggle. I think the problem here is that you have to move the sword at different paces and that's unnatural.
Does anyone know if there's some way to fix the sound in Donkey Kong Country Returns? The music occasionally messes up a little bit, usually by only coming out of the left or right channel for a few seconds, but I can deal with that. A bigger problem I've been having is that I just entered the sixth stage and there is loud static playing over all of the music/sound effects.
lol @Thoraxes for making some settings which are more or less just "click everything I can" including EFB Access which fucks up the aiming and then stop playing it on dolphin because "the cursor feels better on the wii". WTH dude. To think that people just copy & paste that settings without even...ah, whatever. Internet. It's the internet.
So, is anyone else getting framerate problems when locked on enemies sometimes? I didn't have those till the first lizard enemy, where it began. And then it came sometimes back when those red guys with the electricity things came. Running 4x res with 16AF and no AA.
So, is anyone else getting framerate problems when locked on enemies sometimes? I didn't have those till the first lizard enemy, where it began. And then it came sometimes back when those red guys with the electricity things came. Running 4x res with 16AF and no AA.
On Dolphin, my controls generally seem to be much more inaccurate. And it's not the EFB issue. Links sword placement even when I'm not swinging commonly screws up, where on Wii it probably happened once over 50 hours. I could be holding the Wiimote to my side and Link will have it across his whole body. Aiming is janky and so is item selection (item selection can be all sorts of wrong sometimes :S) It all works but nowhere near as well as on Wii, which is so smooth. And when just moving the sword, even when it is accurate, it can also be janky. When making the eyes dizzy for example, instead of smooth circles, Link makes these... bumpy, disjointed circles. lol
If this can be fixed, enlighten me! Again, I'm not hating on Dolphin. But Wii is definitely working better for me (and others it seems). You can't dispute it.
If this can be fixed, enlighten me! Again, I'm not hating on Dolphin. But Wii is definitely working better for me (and others it seems). You can't dispute it.
I don't have those problems. Making the eyes dizzy wasn't a problem at all. I didn't compare that section on wii but my circles weren't...bumpy and disjointed? Also the positioning almost never screws up. At least I don't remember that that happened. I don't think the probleme here is Dolphin...I don't know though.
The controls worked really well for me on Dolphin. It was 1:1 90% of the time, and I only ever needed to recalibrate after a few bouts of fast swinging. Maybe 10-15 times during a full 45 hours.
I made sure to perform occasional skyward strikes while running around though, and that may have adjusted for inconsistencies.
SS on Dolphin is not perfect, but it remains impressive. Most glitches are relatively minor, and the visual benefit is staggering. If my experience is anything to go by, you may experience bugginess for an hour or two over the course of the entire game. That's what, 4% of the game? A reasonable tradeoff Imo.
I made sure to perform occasional skyward strikes while running around though, and that may have adjusted for inconsistencies.
SS on Dolphin is not perfect, but it remains impressive. Most glitches are relatively minor, and the visual benefit is staggering. If my experience is anything to go by, you may experience bugginess for an hour or two over the course of the entire game. That's what, 4% of the game? A reasonable tradeoff Imo.
TouchMyBox
Member
Move your bluetooth adapter in a place where it would allow your wiimote to get better signal.
That shit happened to me too, luckily my monitor has a bunch of USB ports on it and it works great there.
I think it's mostly in accordance to how the motion+ automatically re-orients itself whenever it can pick up the sensor bar and with some sluggishness of picking up the actual motions I do. It's not horrible, but it's enough that it throws off the agility I as used to when playing on the actual Wii itself.
This could be a number of many things though, and could even be related to my hardware or bluetooth adapter.
Hey now, I made these settings way back when the demo came out for the demo. In multiple posts since then I have constantly said that they may not carry over as well to the actual full game, which in my case they have not. Also I know what each does, know what they effect, and how that relates to overall performance, and in general it's helped many people out as you can see. No need to call me a fool for not knowing what does what, because I do what affects what, why, and how.
When I enabled EFB access I got slightly better performance at the cost of slightly off-center aiming. I tested it with both, and it's not like it was with EFB access, but it's the rate at which the wiimote gets polled when it it uses the sensor bar to reorient itself (it does this automatically while the game is running in addition to the manual calibration that is in the menus) that experienced a delay over the use on the actual console, which could be due in part to a number of external factors unrelated to the actual emulator itself in addition to anything in the emulator.
I just jumped on the Dolphin train. With 75 Wii games in my collection, it seemed like a good thing to do. I brought my Wii from the downstairs tv up to my room and placed it right next to my pc. Both are sharing the same 32 inch HDTV. Formatted a 250 Gb external hard drive to Fat32.
First I installed Dolphin on the pc. Then used LetterBomb, Homebrew Channel, IOS236, d2x, USB Loader, and finally the Homebrew Browser.
After ripping the games on the wii using usb loader, I use a program called Wii Backup Manager to convert the files to ISO.
Already owned a usb bluetooth adapter so I used that to pair my Wiimote to the pc.
Also have it configured with my wireless 360 controller.
The first game I tested was Fortune Street. Looks great and runs fine. But there is one issue. Some sound effects start skipping and never stop. It happens within about 5 minutes of play, and becomes torture to hear so I end up playing with sound turned off. The music never skips, so I may just go into audio options and turn off sound effects while leaving on music.
One single problem remains. Motion controls with the Wiimote. I have an old Pelican wireless sensor bar that I have not used for 2 years. I can't seem to get it to do anything. Changed the batteries, turned it on. How does this thing even work?! There is no cable to connect to the wii or pc. It just takes batteries and has 1 reset button. Wtf! Wish there was a way to use the wii sensor bar, but the cable connector is unique to the wii.
Last question. Some games use Mii's as your character. Is there anyway using Dolphin to edit a Mii or it's name instead of using the generic default the games have. On Fortune Street I am always named Guest 3 and picked from a short list of premade Mii's.
First I installed Dolphin on the pc. Then used LetterBomb, Homebrew Channel, IOS236, d2x, USB Loader, and finally the Homebrew Browser.
After ripping the games on the wii using usb loader, I use a program called Wii Backup Manager to convert the files to ISO.
Already owned a usb bluetooth adapter so I used that to pair my Wiimote to the pc.
Also have it configured with my wireless 360 controller.
The first game I tested was Fortune Street. Looks great and runs fine. But there is one issue. Some sound effects start skipping and never stop. It happens within about 5 minutes of play, and becomes torture to hear so I end up playing with sound turned off. The music never skips, so I may just go into audio options and turn off sound effects while leaving on music.
One single problem remains. Motion controls with the Wiimote. I have an old Pelican wireless sensor bar that I have not used for 2 years. I can't seem to get it to do anything. Changed the batteries, turned it on. How does this thing even work?! There is no cable to connect to the wii or pc. It just takes batteries and has 1 reset button. Wtf! Wish there was a way to use the wii sensor bar, but the cable connector is unique to the wii.
Last question. Some games use Mii's as your character. Is there anyway using Dolphin to edit a Mii or it's name instead of using the generic default the games have. On Fortune Street I am always named Guest 3 and picked from a short list of premade Mii's.
my first attempt was with a NTFS drive. it already had exisiting data on it. but from what i read it still should have worked. well i kept getting errors. usb loader did not seem to see that drive. but then i wiped it and did fat32 and usb loader detected and used it perfectly.
does one still need to add those 2 lines of text to the config file for NTFS to work? i tried that too but no luck. hmm. not sure i want to wipe and do this all over.
Nabs
Member
argh. from what i have been reading, the only way to rip gamecube games is on a hacked gamecube. is this true?
i have a small collection of gamecube games (wind waker and eternal darkness being 2 of them) and am sad i wont be able to play them on dolphin.
CleanRip