Donald J. Trump elected 45th President of the United States

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This is such a load of fucking crap. There is more on the ballot than just the President of the United States, there are issues that will affect your local community greatly.

This is certainly true. The smaller the election, the more likely it is for your vote to matter.
 
Wow, you actually want minorities to become major. THAT is disgusting. I am okay with them exist, I do not care. But I oppose their showy appearance. I do not care for them why should they make me care of them?

This is it. A textbook example of the type of fucking trash that has been empowered and legitimized for at least the next 4 years.

I may just dwell in the SFV OT exclusively. Damn.
 
Wow, you actually want minorities to become major. THAT is disgusting. I am okay with them exist, I do not care. But I oppose their showy appearance. I do not care for them why should they make me care of them?

I know you're banned, but in the event you're reading this

fuck you
 
Wow, you actually want minorities to become major. THAT is disgusting. I am okay with them exist, I do not care. But I oppose their showy appearance. I do not care for them why should they make me care of them?

I appreciate your comments and understand your economic anxiety, and maybe if we work together we can find a middle ground that is acceptable to both sides.
 
I appreciate your comments and understand your economic anxiety, and maybe if we work together we can find a middle ground that is acceptable to both sides.


Hahaha This is perfect. Thanks for this. Not as pissed now, like I need to pissed on a goddamn gaming message board of all things. Sigh.
 
Maher is taking exactly the wrong approach. Feeling optimistic is fine for making you feel good, not so effective for what is actually necessary right now.

I like Maher, but I haven't had a lick of respect for him since having to listen to him call all of us Katrina victims morons for living somewhere dangerous
 
Not voting is just plain idiotic.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with not voting if none of the candidates remotely represent your views. I don't vote for the lesser of two evils, and I'll never vote to keep someone else out of office [not that my vote would ever change an election to begin with].

You know where voting for sub-par candidates got us over the past few decades? Trump. Because the two parties have learned that putting up candidates reprehensible to the 'other side' will cause the vast majority of voters to circle the wagons around their own reprehensible candidate out of fear, instead of voting their conscience and considering third parties/etc. We get candidates like Clinton and Trump -because- of voters, not because of non-voters.

You think non-voting is 'idiotic'? I think participating in a broken system is idiotic. I think your votes for Democrats and Republicans make our choices worse, not better. We need repudiation of these candidates, not validation.

And all that's still not even scratching the surface with the issues I have with rule by the majority across a land as large as the US, in which we've structured it so ~50% of the population gets their way while the other half doesn't, creating massive rifts across social issues while our humble leaders bomb countries we haven't heard of and put corporate lobbyists into appointed positions.

So, yeah, call me an idiot. At least I don't have blood on my hands because I felt some bizarre need to do something that wouldn't have changed a damn thing to begin with. People love to say, 'if you don't vote, you can't complain'. But that's a load of horseshit. If anything, 'if you vote, you can't complain' because voters are the ones complicit in this broken system, the ones greasing the wheels, the ones that provide the fuel for this colossal race to the bottom which ultimately led us to Trump.
 
There is absolutely nothing wrong with not voting if none of the candidates remotely represent your views. I don't vote for the lesser of two evils, and I'll never vote to keep someone else out of office [not that my vote would ever change an election to begin with].

You know where voting for sub-par candidates got us over the past few decades? Trump. Because the two parties have learned that putting up candidates reprehensible to the 'other side' will cause the vast majority of voters to circle the wagons around their own reprehensible candidate out of fear, instead of voting their conscience and considering third parties/etc. We get candidates like Clinton and Trump -because- of voters, not because of non-voters.

You think non-voting is 'idiotic'? I think participating in a broken system is idiotic. I think your votes for Democrats and Republicans make our choices worse, not better. We need repudiation of these candidates, not validation.

And all that's still not even scratching the surface with the issues I have with rule by the majority across a land as large as the US, in which we've structured it so ~50% of the population gets their way while the other half doesn't, creating massive rifts across social issues while our humble leaders bomb countries we haven't heard of and put corporate lobbyists into appointed positions.

So, yeah, call me an idiot. At least I don't have blood on my hands because I felt some bizarre need to do something that wouldn't have changed a damn thing to begin with. People love to say, 'if you don't vote, you can't complain'. But that's a load of horseshit. If anything, 'if you vote, you can't complain' because voters are the ones complicit in this broken system, the ones greasing the wheels, the ones that spectate this colossal race to the bottom which ultimately led us to Trump.
aside from abstaining from voting, what other steps are you taking to make your ideal system a reality?
 
There is absolutely nothing wrong with not voting if none of the candidates remotely represent your views. I don't vote for the lesser of two evils, and I'll never vote to keep someone else out of office [not that my vote would ever change an election to begin with].

You know where voting for sub-par candidates got us over the past few decades? Trump. Because the two parties have learned that putting up candidates reprehensible to the 'other side' will cause the vast majority of voters to circle the wagons around their own reprehensible candidate out of fear, instead of voting their conscience and considering third parties/etc. We get candidates like Clinton and Trump -because- of voters, not because of non-voters.

You think non-voting is 'idiotic'? I think participating in a broken system is idiotic. I think your votes for Democrats and Republicans make our choices worse, not better. We need repudiation of these candidates, not validation.

And all that's still not even scratching the surface with the issues I have with rule by the majority across a land as large as the US, in which we've structured it so ~50% of the population gets their way while the other half doesn't, creating massive rifts across social issues while our humble leaders bomb countries we haven't heard of and put corporate lobbyists into appointed positions.

So, yeah, call me an idiot. At least I don't have blood on my hands because I felt some bizarre need to do something that wouldn't have changed a damn thing to begin with. People love to say, 'if you don't vote, you can't complain'. But that's a load of horseshit. If anything, 'if you vote, you can't complain' because voters are the ones complicit in this broken system, the ones greasing the wheels, the ones that spectate this colossal race to the bottom which ultimately led us to Trump.

Yes, not voting is idiotic. There are other issues on the ballot than just POTUS that directly affects your community. So abstain from voting for POTUS, but don't abstain from voting for your community.
 
There is absolutely nothing wrong with not voting if none of the candidates remotely represent your views. I don't vote for the lesser of two evils, and I'll never vote to keep someone else out of office [not that my vote would ever change an election to begin with].

You know where voting for sub-par candidates got us over the past few decades? Trump. Because the two parties have learned that putting up candidates reprehensible to the 'other side' will cause the vast majority of voters to circle the wagons around their own reprehensible candidate out of fear, instead of voting their conscience and considering third parties/etc. We get candidates like Clinton and Trump -because- of voters, not because of non-voters.

You think non-voting is 'idiotic'? I think participating in a broken system is idiotic. I think your votes for Democrats and Republicans make our choices worse, not better. We need repudiation of these candidates, not validation.

And all that's still not even scratching the surface with the issues I have with rule by the majority across a land as large as the US, in which we've structured it so ~50% of the population gets their way while the other half doesn't, creating massive rifts across social issues while our humble leaders bomb countries we haven't heard of and put corporate lobbyists into appointed positions.

So, yeah, call me an idiot. At least I don't have blood on my hands because I felt some bizarre need to do something that wouldn't have changed a damn thing to begin with. People love to say, 'if you don't vote, you can't complain'. But that's a load of horseshit. If anything, 'if you vote, you can't complain' because voters are the ones complicit in this broken system, the ones greasing the wheels, the ones that provide the fuel for this colossal race to the bottom which ultimately led us to Trump.
A bunch of drivel.
Not that you would know, but there were I think 6 choices this year on the ballot under President. You and those like you are just fucking lazy and would not hesitate to stand in line at Chipotle for 15 minutes for lunch but can't be fussed to vote.
 
Wow, you actually want minorities to become major. THAT is disgusting. I am okay with them exist, I do not care. But I oppose their showy appearance. I do not care for them why should they make me care of them?

Wow. Thanks for exposing your true colors.

I'm glad your ass is banned.
 
I'm not.

These people have always been here, they just hide their views or post subtle racist/homophobic/sexist comments that fly under the radar. Trump's win just legitimized them.

And the moment they shoot their mouths off here is the moment they don't get to do so again.

Or so I'd hope.
 
Jesus christ you should see the thread in gaming side. ALL out of the woodwork now. And a graveyard. Just what i feared that they are everywhere.
 
Curious, what do you guys think are the chances of Marriage equality going away? Just had a discussion about this.
I am fairly sure that Trump himself doesn't care either way, but with that vice president? Very high possibility of an attempt and way to decent chance of them actually succeeding with all the powers they have right now.
 
Jesus christ you should see the thread in gaming side. ALL out of the woodwork now. And a graveyard. Just what i feared that they are everywhere.

Who do you mean by them/they? Am asking seriously. Was scrolling through first page and most of those banned posters were banned for thread wining, if those posts ended it.
 
This has probably been posted a number of times before, but it just came up on my facebook timeline and it's really interesting to watch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCabT_O0YSM

I'm only 20 minutes in, but this doesn't look like the same man who spoke like a rabid lunatic in the lead up to the election. This is the Trump that people think of when they say that he's the only one who could bring real change.
 
This has probably been posted a number of times before, but it just came up on my facebook timeline and it's really interesting to watch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCabT_O0YSM

I'm only 20 minutes in, but this doesn't look like the same man who spoke like a rabid lunatic in the lead up to the election. This is the Trump that people think of when they say that he's the only one who could bring real change.

infowars. don't bother.
 
how probable is it that Trump was just playing a WWE heel character during the election just to win then turn babyface during the Presidency?

I think he was obviously playing it up a bit.

But IMO the real danger was always Pence and Giuliani the other ilk he has surrounded himself with. Those are the guys with the extreme views and the experience to execute on those views.

I shudder to think what the coming years have for LGBT rights and BLM and free speech / open protest in the US.
 
Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 7h7 hours ago

This will prove to be a great time in the lives of ALL Americans. We will unite and we will win, win, win!

Lmao. This unity stuff from him is getting really old. We aren't dumb Donald.
 
This has probably been posted a number of times before, but it just came up on my facebook timeline and it's really interesting to watch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCabT_O0YSM

I'm only 20 minutes in, but this doesn't look like the same man who spoke like a rabid lunatic in the lead up to the election. This is the Trump that people think of when they say that he's the only one who could bring real change.

I've seen this video. He starts talking and sounding more off the handle around the Apprentice years.
 
This has probably been posted a number of times before, but it just came up on my facebook timeline and it's really interesting to watch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCabT_O0YSM

I'm only 20 minutes in, but this doesn't look like the same man who spoke like a rabid lunatic in the lead up to the election. This is the Trump that people think of when they say that he's the only one who could bring real change.

The funny thing about this video is, with the somber piano score, it doesn't come off as a sentimental appeal in favour of Trump, but a depiction of a level headed businessman who slowly lost his mind. It's almost sympathy inducing.

I know that's not the real story but I'm watching it thinking 'ah, look at him when he was young...poor man.'
 
I've seen this video. He starts talking and sounding more off the handle around the Apprentice years.

Trump's actually this in real life,

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how probable is it that Trump was just playing a WWE heel character during the election just to win then turn babyface during the Presidency?

Yeah, unlike WWE, the three month rule won't apply here. GOP would dump him. His supporters would dump him. The groups of people who he ran into ground during his campaign wouldn't give a shit because we still remember the stuff he said.

And the Democrats would still find a way to fuck it all up and ensure another 4 years of GOP control.
 
This has probably been posted a number of times before, but it just came up on my facebook timeline and it's really interesting to watch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCabT_O0YSM

I'm only 20 minutes in, but this doesn't look like the same man who spoke like a rabid lunatic in the lead up to the election. This is the Trump that people think of when they say that he's the only one who could bring real change.

While manipulative with the piano score and all, this certainly paints a picture of a man who will stop at nothing to put America back on top again economically.
I can certainly imagine how this kind of rhetoric can really speak to you if you're a blue collar worker that's struggling to make ends meet, whose voice hasn't been heard in decades. It's not hard to see that Trump promises change. Bigly.
 
Yeah, unlike WWE, the three month rule won't apply here. GOP would dump him. His supporters would dump him. The groups of people who he ran into ground during his campaign wouldn't give a shit because we still remember the stuff he said.

And the Democrats would still find a way to fuck it all up and ensure another 4 years of GOP control.

I agree with all of this.

Trump doesn't have enough to give to everybody he needs to please, and he's given every faction and every powerful player a reason to hold a grudge. All he has is a bunch of has-beens and bringe characters.

But liberals will still fuck it up. In the last month of the election, somebody's email will get hacked by russia, progressives will say "oh, look at all that corruption!", and stay home.

Never, ever underestimate the ability of progressives to self-immolate at the expense of the rest of the left.
 
A bunch of drivel.
Not that you would know, but there were I think 6 choices this year on the ballot under President. You and those like you are just fucking lazy and would not hesitate to stand in line at Chipotle for 15 minutes for lunch but can't be fussed to vote.

I know who is on the ballot. I research all of them. That doesn't mean I vote for one. But keep your assumptions at full speed ahead. Just because you support this form of gov't doesn't mean I have to, and just because I don't partake in your form of group rule doesn't mean I'm lazy or an idiot. I have no interest in enforcing my will on you, feel free to try to vote me out of mine.

PS -- I don't eat at national chains. I've never been in a Starbucks. I know and understand my politics. Your insults, arrogance, assumptions, and ignorance don't phase me. I fully understand the implications of voting and choose not to. I'm self aware and politically aware. You can rest assured my non-vote for president was just as effective as your vote.
 
The funny thing about this video is, with the somber piano score, it doesn't come off as a sentimental appeal in favour of Trump, but a depiction of a level headed businessman who slowly lost his mind. It's almost sympathy inducing.

I know that's not the real story but I'm watching it thinking 'ah, look at him when he was young...poor man.'

Well his father had Alzheimer's disease...
 
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