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Leonidas
AMD's Dogma: ARyzen (No Intel inside)
New AMD GPUs aren't fairing so well, Radeon VII ($699, 2019) is being outperformed by RTX 2070 Super ($499, 2019).
Old AMD GPUs like R9 290 and Fury X can't even run the game at 1080p Ultra.
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VFXVeteran
Banned
The speed is, but it's technically not as impressive. There are several things I see that the engine still doesn't push the limits of 3D features. With their hard stance on making 60FPS with any configuration, I don't see them pushing visuals to the level that Unreal Engine would do. I think they are too married to the DOOM of old which is going to always require them to have really fast bandwidth requirements in order to keep their graphics @ 60FPS. Not room for improvement on features that will certainly bog down FPS (i.e. lush landscape, good GI, every light casting a shadow, better FX animation and computation, etc..)
I tried the game and quickly returned it after feeling like I'm floating and my weapon just acts like it's killing ghosts. There is no sense of physics at all. After playing Zelda for 130hr+, I'm spoiled and want much slower and more realistic gameplay.
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GHG
Gold Member
1080p and 1440p benchies:
www.techspot.com
DOOM Eternal PC Graphics Benchmark
Doom Eternal is the series' latest demon-killing romp, bringing more weapon variety, a plethora of new demons to face off against, and exciting new environments to explore....
www.techspot.com
GHG
Gold Member
Why don't you substantiate your claim?
These websites go through a lot of effort to benchmark games on various hardware and I always see you claiming it's bullshit because your system might run the game "differently" but you never back it up.
GHG
Gold Member
Are you running identical hardware with identical cooling at identical clocks?
Shin
Banned
DirectX + CUDA favoritism, regardless here's hoping the industry updates their engine to push new features.
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Kenpachii
Member
hyperbertha
Member
Only 107 fps on 2080ti? Do you guys have no SSDs?
PhoenixTank
Member
It has come a long way from the shitshow that was idTech 5 on PC.
GHG
Gold Member
PC benchmarks can be peculiar, even "better" hardware can result in less desirable results dependent on your configuration and the stability of your clocks.
Since there is no in built benchmarking tool they run through an area of the game to get their results:
For testing we've used an early section of the game, right after the first Hell Priest has been terminated we're having a 60 second pass, with all results based on a 3-run average.
Unless you are are doing exactly the same run as them on identical hardware it's a bit much to say their results are "bullshit" just because they are different to what you might be experiencing.
Elektro Demon
Banned
I see what you did there.
Source on the Fury X claim?
LordOfChaos
Member
Tried it on a 1030TI for shits and giggles, it's...Not great. Any further questions?
Not the worst I've played on, before I could afford anything as a kid I did play Halo CE at like 18FPS on a Geforce 2 MX. And still loved it and must have played that campaign more than any.
Not the worst I've played on, before I could afford anything as a kid I did play Halo CE at like 18FPS on a Geforce 2 MX. And still loved it and must have played that campaign more than any.
Leonidas
AMD's Dogma: ARyzen (No Intel inside)
DOOM Eternal PC Graphics Benchmark
Doom Eternal is the series' latest demon-killing romp, bringing more weapon variety, a plethora of new demons to face off against, and exciting new environments to explore....
www.techspot.com
Fury X was gimped with only 4 GB and doesn't have the capability to run this game in 1080p Ultra.
980 Ti is still going strong with 6 GB.
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PhoenixTank
Member
Might as well link the source video too:
Pretty sure Eternal only uses Vulkan.
Resolution Scaling.
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outsida
Member
I think its resolution scaling.
Leonidas
AMD's Dogma: ARyzen (No Intel inside)
Wolfenstein II was an AMD favored title before RTX arrived and made the AMD cards look bad.
EverydayBeast
ChatGPT 0.001
Doesn't look to challenging on PC's if mid range cards can still run it fine perhaps not at high levels but still fine
JareBear: Remastered
Banned
I still have my old 980ti and 1070ti collecting dust in my closet. Never used for mining or anything, in perfect condition. I should probably try to sell them
MetalAlien
Banned
That's pretty close to Doom 2016 results for me.. RTX 2070 1080p hovers close to 200fps.
MetalAlien
Banned
Insane Metal
Member
Damn AMD taking the L in this game.
Alexios
Cores, shaders and BIOS oh my!
The game is not only technically proficient but simply beautiful too, most of the time. It's leagues above Doom 2016 yet somehow runs just fine on the same hardware. Getting rid of megatextures was the best decision they made for id Tech of course, it was a cool experiment but not viable. Still, normal high res textures is but one of many improvements. It has great base systems too but they went and ruined it with all the cooldown special skills, as if finisher moves in 2016 weren't breaking up gameplay enough now we have more bs we must use to replenish health, armor and ammo. The level design is great too but it's kind of useless to have the hub and climbing etc., it would have been great if they took it to the next level and had you repeat levels with new skills and weapons that give you access to different paths, Powerslave style, they kinda drag for no reason as it is. Btw, turn off the Steam fps overlay, I had read it causes performance issues but I didn't really have any problems initially so I thought it's a fluke but then in this one level I did get to low 50 fps in one busy spot, I tried changing settings to no avail until I disabled that again and it was magically fixed.
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Iorv3th
Member
Wonder if these are done on the same drivers and with the latest patch.
Leonidas
AMD's Dogma: ARyzen (No Intel inside)
Turn all the settings down to low and test only 8 year old cards which no one uses today and the outcome is different
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CrustyBritches
Gold Member
I wonder how those AMD cards will hold up when the ray tracing patch is released?
Leonidas
AMD's Dogma: ARyzen (No Intel inside)
Unknown Soldier
Member
OpenGL has been dropped from idTech 7. DOOM Eternal only has a Vulkan client.
idTech has never had a Direct3D renderer.
Remember when low-level API's were going to revolutionize everything and AMD GPU's with superior bullshit hardware something were going to leave Nvidia in the dust?
Boy, that sure aged badly. Like everything AMD makes on the GPU side. They have really turned things around on the CPU side but the GPU division is still awful at everything. AMD's acquisition of ATI is still the worst tech merger I have seen with the exception of HP-Compaq. That one was such a doozy it ended Carly Fiorina's career permanently.
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Kenpachii
Member
Screw next-gen tech, lets all run 8 year old GPUs on low
Wait no more.
Ultra low is the new ultra.
Athlon 200GE
60 bucks apu.
Actually, the benchmark results are pretty decent for AMD, with the exception of the Radeon VII, perhaps. The 5700 XT is in between 2070 and 2070 Super, which is normal. The Vega 64 loses to the 1080 at 1080p, but beats it at higher resolutions. The 5500 XT, 580 and 590 all beat out the 1060, but lose to the 1660 at 1080p. However at 1440p the 590 beats the 1660, and at at 4K, it beats the 1660 Super.
CuteFaceJay
Member
Still using mine at the moment, I might upgrade for cyberpunk but I really want to wait for prices to start going down on the GPU's.
RDR2 pretty much maxes this thing out at 99% all the time at 2560 X 1080 LOL
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PleaseWaitStation4
Banned
PS5 uses AMD.
OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
My 1080(not ti) still holding strong at 1440p. I'm looking forward to seeing what a 3080 offers.
llien
Banned
$399 5700XT is above 2070.
$349 5700 and $300 5600XT are above 2060, 1080 and other crap.
570 beating 1060 and 580 wiping the floor with is kinda funny.
If there was supposed to be a plot, besides repeating "AMD hasn't rolled out a product into high end section of the market (yet)", I have missed it.
$349 5700 and $300 5600XT are above 2060, 1080 and other crap.
570 beating 1060 and 580 wiping the floor with is kinda funny.
If there was supposed to be a plot, besides repeating "AMD hasn't rolled out a product into high end section of the market (yet)", I have missed it.
Leonidas
AMD's Dogma: ARyzen (No Intel inside)
Already throwing Radeon VII under the rug? It's AMD's high end right now, launched just last year, outperforming Navi... just can't keep up with 2017-2018 items from Nvidia.
No shame in that, maybe they'll do better next time.
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I thought it was discontinued?
AMD Retires the Radeon VII Less Than Five Months Into Launch
AMD has reportedly discontinued production of its flagship Radeon VII graphics card. According to a Cowcotland report, AMD no longer finds it viable to produce and sell the Radeon VII at prices competitive to NVIDIA's RTX 2080, especially when its latest Radeon RX 5700 XT performs within 5-12...
Anyway, it was basically just a consumer version of the Radeon Instinct MI50, and is much less efficient than Navi for gaming workloads.
GamingArena
Member
But my 2080 System has 3x faster SSD then their 2080ti system i thought faster SSD will smoke 2080ti, what's going on here?
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