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[Kagari]

Any news yet if Kai is going to end after the Cell saga?

Buu saga deemed too terrible to be in HD.

 

[Mikey Jr.]

Fucking amazing episode this week. Loved it.

 

[Amakusa]

Gohan's Kamehameha is larger than Cell's Kamehameha.

Someone needs to screen cap that pic of Cell saying, his is larger then mine!

 

[Takao]

Any news yet if Kai is going to end after the Cell saga?

No, but Kai is getting another broadcast on Fuji TV's secondary channel. Who knows what that means if anything.

 

[Kagari]

No, but Kai is getting another broadcast on Fuji TV's secondary channel. Who knows what that means if anything.

Rerun perhaps?

 

[Deleted member 74300]

Someone needs to screen cap that pic of Cell saying, his is larger then mine!

The face makes it even better.


Also
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtzXsyiKxes

 

[kuYuri]

Someone needs to screen cap that pic of Cell saying, his is larger then mine!

Mine is better quality.

 

[bangai-o]

Nicktoons is up to Meta-Frieza lands on Earth and faces off against Trunks. The smack talking is so horrible in this version (compared the Cartoon Network version).

 

[Manus]

Love the cover of this one, can't wait to pick it up.

 

[Deleted member 74300]

Mine is better quality.

...and larger than mine.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHE-kXUqRKk


Anyways I like how they spoil this on the season 5 cover.

 

[Anth0ny]

Anyways I like how they spoil this on the season 5 cover.

To quote DBZ Abridged, "Has anyone not watched this show yet?"

 

[tearsofash]

It's so exciting to relive all these memories. Watching it with the wife makes it really difficult not to spoil when she asks questions about who saves the day or who dies.

 

[Deleted member 74300]

To quote DBZ Abridged, "Has anyone not watched this show yet?"

True, not to mention Funimation has dubbed it so many times that they most likely don't care anymore. Also violence sells.

 

[Kintaro]

No way. Kai's version is way better. For one, the music actually fits the mood of the scene and makes the scene feel much more intense.

Different strokes or whatever.

 

[Unknown One]

Gohan's Kamehameha is larger than Cell's Kamehameha.

Cell always seems to overcompensate for something. Having a tournament for a stupid reason. Having a smaller Kamehameha then a 12 year old hahahaha

 

[kuYuri]

Cell always seems to overcompensate for something. Having a tournament for a stupid reason. Having a smaller Kamehameha then a 12 year old hahahaha

Technically, he should be 9 (physically 10 if you count time spent in RoSaT).

 

[GaimeGuy]

Technically, he should be 9 (physically 10 if you count time spent in RoSaT).

11.

He was 5 when facing raditz
6 when facing vegeta/nappa
Frieza was a little over one month later (yeah, Goku went from like 8000 base power level against nappa/vegeta to 90,000 against ginyu to 2 or 3 million after healing from his wounds to 150 millionish or something crazy along those lines after transforming. In a little over one month, maybe 1.5. Lol. And the jump from facing Ginyu to SSJ was maybe a few hours at most. )

Goku, Trunks, Frieza, and King Cold got to Earth about a year later. Gohan was ~7 at this time.

3 year timeskip means gohan was 10 when the androids showed up.

one year of training in Room of Spirit and Time means he's 11 when he beats cell.

 

[kuYuri]

11.

16 years old - 7 years of peace = 9 year old Gohan.

It's a discrepancy between anime and manga.

 

[Lirlond]

This will make a good Right to left argument image.

 

[Takao]

HERCULE CITY

 

[Anth0ny]

According to a post on 2 channel, a regular feature of Kai on the newest TV Pia, a Japanese TV magazine, says "Now there are only 4 episodes left". In addition, on that feature, there is an interview with Takeshi Kusao, in which he says "I hope we'll get a chance to dub the Buu arc someday". I will check out the magazine today.

Posted on DaizEX. kei17 has been a reliable source in the past, so I'm pretty convinced at this point that it's going to end with Cell.

 

[Plasmid]

I don't understand, is Kai better than the original english dub? I've got the english dub or have been watching them and they seem better to me, probably just nostalgia.

 

[Anth0ny]

I don't understand, is Kai better than the original english dub? I've got the english dub or have been watching them and they seem better to me, probably just nostalgia.

Kai's script is more accurate to the original Japanese.

I guess nostalgia could be a factor.

 

[Kagari]

Posted on Daizex. kei17 has been a reliable source in the past, so I'm pretty convinced that this point that it's going to end with Cell.

Dragon Ball Kai redeemed!

 

[kuYuri]

Posted on Daizex. kei17 has been a reliable source in the past, so I'm pretty convinced that this point that it's going to end with Cell.

Did Kai's ratings nosedive since it started? Wonder why it's not being continued.

 

[Stabby McSter]

Did Kai's ratings nosedive since it started? Wonder why it's not being continued.

I believe they said there would only be about 100 episodes of Kai in the beginning. I could be wrong.

 

[Vincent Alexander]

I just watched Gohan go SSJ2 in the original Japanese version (first time watching). Damn, that is terrible. That music made me feel like I was watching a Rocky movie. "You can do it, champ!"

 

[Calcaneus]

So in the end, what exactly was the point of Kai?

"Hey we're gonna re-cut the show! New voices and music and everything! But we're not gonna re-animate it! And we're only gonna go 2/3 of the way through!"

I feel like Funimation is totally getting the shaft in this deal, they finally start to do a non-rushed, non-amateur, dub of the show and they're getting cut off right before the end.

 

[Kagari]

So in the end, what exactly was the point of Kai?

"Hey we're gonna re-cut the show! New voices and music and everything! But we're not gonna re-animate it! And we're only gonna go 2/3 of the way through!"

I feel like Funimation is totally getting the shaft in this deal, they finally start to do a non-rushed, non-amateur, dub of the show and they're getting cut off right before the end.

I always felt the series should have ended after the end of the Cell games anyway.
I agree that it was lazy of them not to reanimate the whole thing though... missed opportunity.

 

[Anth0ny]

So in the end, what exactly was the point of Kai?

"Hey we're gonna re-cut the show! New voices and music and everything! But we're not gonna re-animate it! And we're only gonna go 2/3 of the way through!"

I feel like Funimation is totally getting the shaft in this deal, they finally start to do a non-rushed, non-amateur, dub of the show and they're getting cut off right before the end.

The point? A super easy cash grab. And as soon as ratings went down, they said fuck it, it appears.

I do think that the North American audience needed Kai more than the Japanese audience did. Their version of Dragon Ball was fine. Ours was not.

Regardless, we'll get a completely reanimated version eventually. When the Kai cash cow dries up.

 

[Blader]

The point? A super easy cash grab. And as soon as ratings went down, they said fuck it, it appears.

I do think that the North American audience needed Kai more than the Japanese audience did. Their version of Dragon Ball was fine. Ours was not.

Regardless, we'll get a completely reanimated version eventually. When the Kai cash cow dries up.

Ours was better.

Spoiler

not kidding.

 

[Vincent Alexander]

Ours was better.

Spoiler

not kidding.

Agreed

Spoiler

Also not kidding

 

[Calcaneus]

I also have fond memories of the dub, but I recently went back to watch some episodes, and it was rough as hell.

 

[Rewrite]

Man, Kai has been great so far for me. It's definitely a missed opportunity that they didn't reanimate everything, but at this point I don't really give a shit because I still find the old animation to be great. Rewatching the Frieza fight was so fucking awesome and Planet Namek didn't take over 30 episodes to explode now! I feel like a little kid waiting for the next episode to air every week. Haha.

 

[Kagari]

Ratings went down, really? That's interesting...

 

[Takao]

Did Kai's ratings nosedive since it started? Wonder why it's not being continued.

No, the ratings share it had at the beginning is more or less the same it has now. The general theory is that merchandise sales are too low. The Blu-Rays and DVDs almost never chart, and Bandai's earnings reports all forecast for less and less Dragon Ball merchandise to be sold per quarter. Lower than before Kai started. Kai's main sponsor, toy licensee, and video game licensee is Scamco Bandai. Kai not pushing enough of their merch, they pull funding, Kai ends.

Though, they really only have themselves to blame. They over saturated the market with Dragon Ball merch this past decade without fail in Japan.

The company is also incredibly incompetent - case in point, they're the Dragon Ball toy licensee and video game licensee worldwide. The last time they released Dragon Ball (anime) toys in North America was in 2008 - 2 years before Kai would air on television here and like 2 years after Z was last aired in the US. Now that Kai is airing on television, they don't have a single toy on the shelf, nor any plans to change that. Heck, they don't even bother to advertise the video games on the channel the show airs on. They asked this to happen.

Ratings went down, really? That's interesting...

Ratings are likely down from the numbers Dragon Ball/Z/GT provided, but that was when Dragon Ball was new (Dragon Ball/Z/GT still air on Japanese TV to this day), and that was full production. It also probably doesn't help that Dragon Ball/Z/GT aired on Thursdays in primetime (IIRC), and Kai airs on Sunday mornings alongside One Piece.

Ours was better.

Spoiler

not kidding.

A script that has an exuberant amount of really terrible dialogue changes for no reason is not better.

The point? A super easy cash grab. And as soon as ratings went down, they said fuck it, it appears.

I do think that the North American audience needed Kai more than the Japanese audience did. Their version of Dragon Ball was fine. Ours was not.

Regardless, we'll get a completely reanimated version eventually. When the Kai cash cow dries up.

More or less.

I kind of viewed it as their cheap-ass attempt to cash-in on the (then) perceived success of Dragon Ball Evolution. They started like a month apart, and Kai was announced as the whole $5 spent on marketing for DBE was being used. Also, both Kai and DBE merchandise were co-advertising each other in Japan (alongside all general Dragon Ball products at the time).

 

[Anth0ny]

L O FUCKING L

Remember when we all thought that BGM in the first episode sounded like the Imperial March? Turns out we were right!

This is really interesting. I see one of two things happening for the remaining episodes:

1. Horrible, generic bgm replaces the Yamamoto score.

2. THE KIKUCHI SCORE MAKES IT'S TRIUMPHANT RETURN =D

Here's some fan guesses to what he's ripping off:

Terminator Salvation Kai version
Original

Avatar Kai version
Original

 

[Takao]

L O FUCKING L

Remember when we all thought that BGM in the first episode sounded like the Imperial March? Turns out we were right!

This is really interesting. I see one of two things happening for the remaining episodes:

1. Horrible, generic bgm replaces the Yamamoto score.

2. THE KIKUCHI SCORE MAKES IT'S TRIUMPHANT RETURN =D

Kikuchi's score returns. He's actually now the only one credited for music production of Kai's website, and Japanese fans have said they've heard DBZ music in the Kai reruns.

 

[Anth0ny]

Kikuchi's score returns. He's actually now the only one credited for music production of Kai's website, and Japanese fans have said they've heard DBZ music in the Kai reruns.

o_o

O______________O

The original score would make me like Kai. Seriously. That, and no re-animated scenes that look like they were made with Flash.

 

[Anth0ny]

Hmm.

Given the tragic events in Japan, we may not get an episode of Kai this weekend. The next episode has "earth-shaking" scenes. Nothing is confirmed, just putting it out there.

I wouldn't be surprised if the episode is postponed.

 

[GaimeGuy]

Ratings went down, really? That's interesting...

Kai is in the same timeslot as One Piece on sundays. Yeah....

Also: I'm going to miss the new Ginyu Tokusentai theme if they replace that with the Red Ribbon Army theme as they originally used for the ginyu introduction in Z.

 

[MrHicks]

bruce falconer's music > whatever the original was (and i've heard the ori)

the music made some EPIC moments

 

[GaimeGuy]

bruce falconer's music > whatever the original was (and i've heard the ori)

the music made some EPIC moments

Eh, there were like 300 tracks he made and only like a dozen or so were any good.

Too much trash, and the need to always have some kind of music playing (or an internal monologue) screwed up a lot of scenes, although that's a directing problem.

 

[Calcaneus]

Falconer has some good individual tracks, but it was a terrible score for the actual show. The original and Kai's soundtracks flow much better and know when to stop blasting the music.

 

[Anth0ny]

As I thought, no Kai today due to earthquakes.

 

[Zee-Row]

bruce falconer's music > whatever the original was (and i've heard the ori)

the music made some EPIC moments

Bruce Falconer's music was trash , it took them over 10 years to finally make that man unemployed.

 

[riceandbeans]

Started watching this yesterday. The pacing is so much better along and the english dub voice acting is better. Gohan is now tolerable. But man, watching this on Nicktoons is a fucking abomination. Toonami was decent on the censorship, but this is too much.

At least they had the decency to actually show the characters hitting each other. What the fuck is the point of airing a fighting anime if you're going to cut away every time someone hits each other?

 

[Seda]

I have a question. I've been watching this on dubhappy (I watch 99% dubs), but the english dub is cut to crap. For example, it doesn't show Android 20 impale Yamcha with his arm. The Japanese version of Kai did. Is there any uncut/dubbed version?

If not..oh well.

And I prefered Bruce Falcouner's music. The Japanese is awesome at times but off at others for me.

 

[Takao]

I have a question. I've been watching this on dubhappy (I watch 99% dubs), but the english dub is cut to crap. For example, it doesn't show Android 20 impale Yamcha with his arm. The Japanese version of Kai did. Is there any uncut/dubbed version?

If not..oh well.

And I prefered Bruce Falcouner's music. The Japanese is awesome at times but off at others for me.

You're in the US, and have access to the streams on Nicktoons.com, and Toonzai.com. If you're going to watch the edited dub, why are you turning to illegal means?

Anyways, I've said this before, but the TV broadcasts on Nicktoons are very far ahead of the current DVD and Blu-Ray releases. The broadcast is in the Android arch, and the home release is covering Frieza. Each broadcast of Kai in the US is edited further from the Japanese broadcast. The uncut release is the home release, and its not near the Android arch.

 

[Seda]

You're in the US, and have access to the streams on Nicktoons.com, and Toonzai.com. If you're going to watch the edited dub, why are you turning to illegal means?

Anyways, I've said this before, but the TV broadcasts on Nicktoons are very far ahead of the current DVD and Blu-Ray releases. The broadcast is in the Android arch, and the home release is covering Frieza. Each broadcast of Kai in the US is edited further from the Japanese broadcast. The uncut release is the home release, and its not near the Android arch.

Home release? I'm not familiar with that terminology. Who has the home release? I only get the CW (Toonzai), which I believe is the cut release, but it's only up to Namek arch. Toonzai's website only goes in 13 episodes. Nicktoons is super cut.

I guess a simple question is...does a Uncut AND Dubbed edition of KAI even exist?