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Dragon Ball Super |OT8| There is no justice or evil, only survival or erasure.

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Kevinroc

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That wasn't that far ahead, especially given where the 'no natural death' cause came in and when the Android Saga started.

Piccolo being an alien was something Toriyama said he thought up when Kami first appeared.

(From Daizenshuu #4)

Q: Speaking of Piccolo, did you think from the beginning of his background as a Namekian alien?

A: Of course, I didn't think that at all (laughs). The Saiyans were like that as well. When I thought up Goku's tail and the Ōzaru, I didn't think Goku was an alien or anything. Piccolo either. Because I thought that up when God came out.

Mostly afterwards, I thought it through so that it would be consistent. For example, there's the chair that Planet Namek's Eldest sat in. That was mostly the same as the chair that Piccolo Daimaō had sat in when he first appeared. It was just missing the skulls.

I honestly forgot when they first said they couldn't revive someone if they died of natural causes. But if it was during Namek, it isn't impossible Toriyama was laying some foundation for what came next (even if he didn't exactly have the whole thing plotted out.)
 

Kazuhira

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Well,i really like the new transformation.
SSJB never did it for me,actually i like more SSJ Rose than Blue.
Kaioken+Blue is cool though.
 
bed hair goku is all I can think of with his new transformation, even if he already had bed hair.

Sad that we probably won't see super saiyan 3 blue, back in ep 40+ I was hoping it would become a thing one day.
 

Skeeter49

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Yeah, though I remember someone complaining about the titles containing spoilers and, well... I think it doesn't mean shit without context and I love the pun lol.

They weren't even close to what the title was referencing. They thought it was female saiyans when it was Ribrianne.

I think Genki Drama is fine. If someone asks, just tell them it's a joke someone started in the OT, and has no reference to what's going on in the show.

Science dictates if they're complaining then they're watching the dub, and if they're watching the dub they have no clue what a Genki Dama is.
 
The One Piece special only pulled in a 4.7 live rating, which would be really low for a regular episode of One Piece and pretty low for a regular episode of Super.
Crazy it didn't get higher ratings with all the hype Toei tried to build up. It's very, very likely the Super special gets higher ratings than the OP one, which is kinda crazy.
 

NeonZ

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The One Piece special only pulled in a 4.7 live rating, which would be really low for a regular episode of One Piece and pretty low for a regular episode of Super.
Crazy it didn't get higher ratings with all the hype Toei tried to build up.

It was also the first episode airing against Kamen Rider and Super Sentai in their new timeslots. I wonder if we'll see both shows taking a hit in ratings due to competing against each other.
 
The One Piece special only pulled in a 4.7 live rating, which would be really low for a regular episode of One Piece and pretty low for a regular episode of Super.
Crazy it didn't get higher ratings with all the hype Toei tried to build up. It's very, very likely the Super special gets higher ratings than the OP one, which is kinda crazy.

It helps that DBSuper's special is actually something new. And it's been a fight that has been built since the first ToP OP
 
It was also the first episode airing against Kamen Rider and Super Sentai in their new timeslots. I wonder if we'll see both shows taking a hit in ratings due to competing against each other.

It seems like some other shows were low this week as well though, was there something going on in Japan?
 

A Pretty Panda

fuckin' called it, man
It was also the first episode airing against Kamen Rider and Super Sentai in their new timeslots. I wonder if we'll see both shows taking a hit in ratings due to competing against each other.
I love when Toei puts their own shows against each other. How could they possibly lose?
 

HeroR

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The One Piece special only pulled in a 4.7 live rating, which would be really low for a regular episode of One Piece and pretty low for a regular episode of Super.
Crazy it didn't get higher ratings with all the hype Toei tried to build up. It's very, very likely the Super special gets higher ratings than the OP one, which is kinda crazy.

But it was also #3 overall in the ratings, which is up from where One Piece usually gets. Also, all the top 10 pulled in some lousy ratings except MHA.
 
But even the shows above it didn't pulled in good ratings like Conan and there was a big dropped between One Piece and the next show.

Which is why I asked if something was going on this week in Japan.
My Hero Academia actually pulled in a higher than average rating though.
 

HeroR

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Yes, and One Piece was a highly advertised special.

Well, it could have just been a bad week. We have to see Super's ratings. I think it should do better since, to be blunt, Luffy vs. Sanji in the manga wasn't that big of a moment. In fact, I remember fans being pissed about it when it happened since many felt it was a retread of Nami and Robin's moments. Toei comparing it to the Last Supper was a side-eyed moment.
 
Well, it could have just been a bad week. We have to see Super's ratings. I think it should do better since, to be blunt, Luffy vs. Sanji in the manga wasn't that big of a moment. In fact, I remember fans being pissed about it when it happened since many felt it was a retread of Nami and Robin's moments. Toei comparing it to the Last Supper was a side-eyed moment.

Based on past events the Super special could pull in something in the 6 or 7 range I think.
 
i just watched gohan vs lavender again, and while he "lost" i honestly think its been his best fight in Super so far. It's pretty badass.
 

Mory Dunz

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btw, anybody not like Goku's hair in the new form?

It just seems like a weird in between. It looks decent (but not good imo) in that still because that is a high quality shot.

Imagine a lower budget episode down the line with that hair. It's going to look like some bad Yu Gi Oh garbage, especially with all the different angles during a fight.


I'd actually prefer regular sayain hair than that.
What I think would be pretty cool is Goku's SSJ2 Hair but black with the shading. I'd be down for that.

edit:
I'm sure I can find some fan art or something....
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eh...maybe, maybe not
 

Magwik

Banned
how does it feel to be the most lauded dragonball gaffer right now
I have a pretty good track record for OT titles and puns, but feels good
btw, anybody not like Goku's hair in the new form?

It just seems like a weird in between. It looks decent (but not good imo) in that still because that is a high quality shot.

Imagine a lower budget episode down the line with that hair. It's going to look like some bad Yu Gi Oh garbage, especially with all the different angles during a fight.


I'd actually prefer regular sayain hair than that.
What I think would be pretty cool is Goku's SSJ2 Hair but black with the shading. I'd be down for that.

edit:
I'm sure I can find some fan art or something....


eh...maybe, maybe not
I still think we're being duped
 

B-Dubs

No Scrubs
btw, anybody not like Goku's hair in the new form?

It just seems like a weird in between. It looks decent (but not good imo) in that still because that is a high quality shot.

Imagine a lower budget episode down the line with that hair. It's going to look like some bad Yu Gi Oh garbage, especially with all the different angles during a fight.


I'd actually prefer regular sayain hair than that.
What I think would be pretty cool is Goku's SSJ2 Hair but black with the shading. I'd be down for that.

edit:
I'm sure I can find some fan art or something....


eh...maybe, maybe not

If it plays out the way we think it will then he won't be able to just spam the new form and they can save up budget and schedule great animators for any episode that features it. So it might not be an issue.
 

foxuzamaki

Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
It just seems weird to be promoting it as such the pivotal thing and not the actual battle with Jiren.
Us DB fans can't admit but we fucking love transformations, I specifically picked saiyan in xenoverse 2 for switch because I wanted to go SSJ and then got super disappointed when god and blue wasent possible
 
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