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[Blackleg-sanji1]

You don't want to watch all the loveable characters like the Para Para Brothers?

I mean are they that different from some of the combatants in the tournament now lol

 

[Daingurse]

Freaking tien lol

Even I can't help but laugh, but I really had to give him that slot lol. I just like characters who give their all! Tien was a character that I respected highly growing up. He has some of the most memorable moments in Z for me.

Tien was also pretty beastly in OG Dragon Ball. I had a handful of volumes when I was a kid, and one of them featured Tien beating the shit out of Yamcha. I'll never forget that kiai against the Kamehameha, or the leg-break.

 

[Mory Dunz]

He doesn't even know their names lmao

?

Forgotten about before the saga even ends?

never forget the birds

 

[TheRealTalker]

I mean are they that different from some of the combatants in the tournament now lol

sometimes a dance is the b̶e̶s̶t̶ only thing you can do

 

[Skeeter49]

I wanted one of the U3 fighters to remind Gohan of 16.

 

[Blackleg-sanji1]

sometimes a dance is the best thing you can do

 

[Fulminator]

I am probably one of two people in the world who didn't like GT's ending, mostly because it was an incomprehensible mind screw.



Forgotten about before the saga even ends?

it was weird but it was cool so eh

 

[kunonabi]

I was actually talking about when he said that they knew coming from all the work they did with Z and the movies about how Goku's presence or lack of presence effects the audience, not necessarily GT.

And, it always comes as missing the point when people claimed GT failed because of 'too much Goku'. While Goku did get a lot of scene time, Goku was the least of the show's problems and it's always come off to me that Goku is a scapegoat for GT's failure.

I also don't see how they were clearly wrong when they said that the switch happened primarily because it was natural, which I do agree with. The flow from an adventure story to more action was done almost seamless in GT, almost the same way how Dragon Ball went from comedy to a darker tone after King Piccolo.

Lol, good one. That transition was as abrupt and obvious as all hell.

 

[TheRealTalker]

I remember when that chapter came Zebra fans were raging that their best man was acting overly goofy

funnily enough most Zebra fans are Vegeta fans

 

[Blackleg-sanji1]

I remember when that chapter came Zebra fans were raging that their best man was acting overly goofy

funnily enough most Zebra fans are Vegeta fans

Zoro zebra and vegeta fans all coexist together. Toei knew it

 

[Daingurse]

I remember when that chapter came Zebra fans were raging that their best man was acting overly goofy

funnily enough most Zebra fans are Vegeta fans

Definitely some overlap lol. I really liked Zebra. It was painful to see him become irrelevant. Especially after they hyped up his Gourmet Demon . . .

 

[TheRealTalker]

Zoro zebra and vegeta fans all coexist together. Toei knew it

lol you know it

Definitely some overlap lol. I really liked Zebra. It was painful to see him become irrelevant. Especially after they hyped up his Gourmet Demon . . .

yeah tons of characters sidelined and 5 arcs skipped due to Shuiesha/WSJ telling him to wrap it up in 6 months

but still somehow got a better ending the Bleach

 

[Sibersk Esto]

“The series should go back to an adventure!”

Said the thread after going bananas for Goku getting a new form and having a slapfight.

 

[Blackleg-sanji1]

“The series should go back to an adventure!”

Said the thread after going bananas for Goku getting a new form and having a slapfight.

Been calling for a uni adventure since unis were introduced

 

[Kagari]

“The series should go back to an adventure!”

Said the thread after going bananas for Goku getting a new form and having a slapfight.

¯\_(&#12484_/¯

Not everyone was.

 

[LotusHD]

Been calling for a uni adventure since unis were introduced

I only care to travel to U6

 

[Blackleg-sanji1]

I only care to travel to U6

Thought that was a lock after the first tournament before we got a second one at the very least a visit to planet salada

 

[LotusHD]

Thought that was a lock after the first tournament before we got a second one at the very least a visit to planet salada

It's more that I'm saying I'm completely indifferent to traveling to any of the other universes

 

[Kagari]

Thought that was a lock after the first tournament before we got a second one at the very least a visit to planet salada

How naive we were.

 

[Fulminator]

I'm fine with a hybrid adventure battle storyline

 

[Blackleg-sanji1]

It's more that I'm saying I'm completely indifferent to traveling to any of the other universes

Those are the characters you care more about so naturally yea. Personally I wanna see what other universes have to offer it’s like mentioning a bunch of islands seeing those inhabitants and than never going there in one piece(imagine not going to Elbaf for example)

How naive we were.

I don’t think many of us expected this tournament so soon in hindsight we probably should have lol but still

 

[HeroR]

It's not going to be better with Eren.
It's never going to be better with Eren.

Gon might feel like a checklist because HxH is a deconstruction of shonen, and he explores many of the flaws characters like Goku have that are often just glossed over.

He is very important to HxH.

Spoiler

And has more charm than Goku.

Not every arc needs every character. This is one of the benefits to a long running series, one arc can have a focus on certain characters and the next can change it up.
The approach Oda takes is fine.

As I said, Eren is also a deconstruction of a Shounen cliche, but it does nothing to make his character better or more interesting. It just makes him annoying.

Gon may also be a deconstruction, but he runs into the same problem as Eren for me, except he isn't annoying. He's just bland and nowhere near as charming as Goku or many other Shounen heroes who fills the same list.

Oda's approached works for the most part, but then you tends to stall the story because he has too many characters doing stuff at once and some characters just get lost like Smoothy on Whole Cake Island.

Lol, good one. That transition was as abrupt and obvious as all hell.

Don't agree since GT was heading in that direction. The only thing forced was Baby.

 

[B-Dubs]

How naive we were.

It would have given this arc a lot more gravitas if we had seen all, or most, of these characters in a prior arc.

 

[Azerare]

Only world i truly was interested in seeing people explore in universe 6 was wherever Hit and Frost were.

Oh and U11 looks interesting too.

 

[HeroR]

Those are the characters you care more about so naturally yea. Personally I wanna see what other universes have to offer it’s like mentioning a bunch of islands seeing those inhabitants and than never going there in one piece(imagine not going to Elbaf for example)


I don’t think many of us expected this tournament so soon in hindsight we probably should have lol but still

Unlike Luffy, Goku isn't interested in the other universes other than the fighters. So there was never no real inclined to 'explore' the other universes. Goku wasn't even interested in seeing the Saiyans home world.

I also find it weird that people thought universe hopping would have been a thing when no one in the cast show interest in their own universe.

 

[B-Dubs]

Unlike Luffy, Goku isn't interested in the other universes other than the fighters. So there was never no real inclined to 'explore' the other universes. Goku wasn't even interested in seeing the Saiyans home world.

I also find it weird that people thought universe hopping would have been a thing when no one in the cast show interest in their own universe.

Vegeta had a bit of interest in visiting Salad.

 

[Blackleg-sanji1]

Unlike Luffy, Goku isn't interested in the other universes other than the fighters. So there was never no real inclined to 'explore' the other universes. Goku wasn't even interested in seeing the Saiyans home world.

I also find it weird that people thought universe hopping would have been a thing when no one in the cast show interest in their own universe.

Vegeta had interest that should’ve been enough

 

[Fulminator]

Too bad Vegeta ain't the main character

 

[HeroR]

Vegeta had a bit of interest in visiting Salad.

Vegeta had interest that should’ve been enough

He did, and then he blew Cabba off when he asked to come to Salad with him after the tournament.

And it isn't like anyone listen or cares about Vegeta's interests, not even his own wife.

 

[Azerare]

He did, and then he blew Cabba off when he asked to come to Salad with him after the tournament.

And it isn't like anyone listen or cares about Vegeta's interests, not even his own wife.

Vegeta's more Yamcha than Yamcha has ever been

 

[CazTGG]

You don't want to watch all the loveable characters like the Para Para Brothers?

 

[LotusHD]

Those are the characters you care more about so naturally yea. Personally I wanna see what other universes have to offer it’s like mentioning a bunch of islands seeing those inhabitants and than never going there in one piece(imagine not going to Elbaf for example)

Whole time it's pretty hilarious we talk about other universes as if Goku and co. have fully explored this one. Basically we're saying we just want Goku to find strong fighters in other universes lol

Too bad Vegeta ain't the main character

Rather have someone else...

 

[Rutger]

Gon may also be a deconstruction, but he runs into the same problem as Eren for me, except he isn't annoying. He's just bland and nowhere near as charming as Goku or many other Shounen heroes who fills the same list.

I find Gon's wonder and excitement at the world of HxH no matter how dark it can get to be infectious personally. It's charming and makes me all the more invested when that world throws its worst at him.
It's something Luffy has going for him as well. But for whatever reason I don't get attached to Goku like that even though he shares many traits those two have.

Of course, that all comes down to persona preference.

 

[HardRojo]

I only care to travel to U6

Yeah, I've been saying for a long time now that I want them to travel to U6 and visit Planet Sadala and Piccolo can go meet his U6 Namekian bros.

 

[B-Dubs]

I find Gon's wonder and excitement at the world of HxH no matter how dark it can get to be infectious personally. It's charming and makes me all the more invested when that world throws its worst at him.
It's something Luffy has going for him as well. But for whatever reason I don't get attached to Goku like that even though he shares many traits those two have.

Of course, that all comes down to persona preference.

I'm in agreement here. I was introduced to Goku first, but I like Luffy and Gon better. I think there's just more character there.

 

[HardRojo]

Oh and I agree the visit to U6 should've come before the current ToP arc... but what can we do...

 

[Morlas]

The new movie will be a u6 movie

 

[HardRojo]

The new movie will be a u6 movie

We can only hope...

 

[Galactic Specter]

The new movie will be a u6 movie

No, it's gonna be "King Cold: Father of Frieza" and it will focus on Frieza's race and how his family came to rule universe 7.

 

[HeroR]

I find Gon's wonder and excitement at the world of HxH no matter how dark it can get to be infectious personally. It's charming and makes me all the more invested when that world throws its worst at him.
It's something Luffy has going for him as well. But for whatever reason I don't get attached to Goku like that even though he shares many traits those two have.

Of course, that all comes down to persona preference.

That isn't my problem with Gon. My problem is that he comes off as bland compared to everyone else around him since they're not walking Shounen cliches. Doesn't help that he's always paired with Killua who is probably one of the most interesting characters in the series, so it just highlights even more how bland Gon is.

Goku gets somewhat of a pass since he's the original and people copy him more or less. He also have the benefit of being an experience protagonist by the end of the original Dragon Ball instead of an upcoming rookie like Gon, Luffy, Naruto, and Eren. He also fills The Ace role that is normally given to other characters, like Ace (no pun really) was The Ace of One Piece or Levi is to AOT. In many ways, Goku is closer to Kenshin from Rurouni Kenshin then most Shounen main characters.

Luffy charm is how he bounces, no pun intended, off other people and how he can just read people so well despite being a moron. That and he knows when to cut through the crap and get to the heart of the matter.

Gon isn't a bad main character, he's just subpar from what I have watched.

 

[Muffin1611]

I'm still rewatching the Buu Saga and that moment Gohan didn't catch the Potara got me laughing

 

[Undead Fantasy]

I'm still rewatching the Buu Saga and that moment Gohan didn't catch the Potara got me laughing

I don't.

It allowed the best fusion to be born.

 

[Morlas]

I don't.

It allowed the best fusion to be born.

sorry dude but the best fusion is in another show

 

[Undead Fantasy]

sorry dude but the best fusion is in another show

 

[Fj0823]

sorry dude but the best fusion is in another show

Agreed, Stevonnie is adorable

 

[A Pretty Panda]

 

[Undead Fantasy]

Zamasu was right.

 

[Morlas]

Agreed, Stevonnie is adorable

yes you are correct

Spoiler

Garnet is a close second

 

[Kagari]

Zamasu was right.

I prefer Gotenks.

 

[Sandfox]

”The series should go back to an adventure!"

Wasn't that the thinking Toei had when making GT?