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With their explanation of UI I am expecting Vegeta to master the attacking aspect first
I feel like it's hard to care about UI when it's just another tool to distance Goku from the rest of the cast. Doesnt help the rest of the U7 team isn't doing much in this tournament while Goku's had two big moments over the halfway mark.
Yeah, positioning this only two episodes after he lost to Jiren really pushed the limits of suspension of disbelief. Would have been the perfect time for other characters to do things while Goku rested. Maybe that'll actually happen this time...back to back as well Toei may be the worst anime writers in the business, I have seen post about how awesome this supposedly is and I just can't wrap my head around that notion, maybe its because I have seen so many shounen animes but this is standard stuff.
Yeah, positioning this only two episodes after he lost to Jiren really pushed the limits of suspension of disbelief. Would have been the perfect time for other characters to do things while Goku rested. Maybe that'll actually happen this time...
He should have. It would have made things a lot more interesting.Kinda make you wonder why they made it 10 person team if there was gonna be so much goddamn Goku..at the very least we got some awesome Roshi eps and 17 was pretty cool for a sec, Jiren should have really knocked Goku off tbh.
Kinda make you wonder why they made it 10 person team if there was gonna be so much goddamn Goku..at the very least we got some awesome Roshi eps and 17 was pretty cool for a sec, Jiren should have really knocked Goku off tbh.
Tbh I'm tired of them switching the entire time to the spectators while there is a fight going on. Yes, we understand Krillin and the others are impressed with Goku and Kefla's power but you don't have to push the message more than once or twice. I get bored everytime Krillin starts to fanboying over Goku . . .
Im going to see UI as an evolution of goku skills rather than a power up. Instead of punching harder, he can punch differently
They just completely removed the Saiyan tails or what?
Goku is still the main hero what did you expect? All this is for the build up against Jiren. If Jiren knocked Goku off there would be no one even near Goku.levels.
Kefla was cool but she also had no experience fighting on such a stage. She still has a ton of potential to grow If you talk about disblieves that would be rally stupid if Kefla could beat Goku.
In the End Universe 7 will win and they will wish bak all other universes anyway..
As for UI. It is something totally new for Goku so he still needs to learn how to work with it. In the End it will also the most powerful attackwise
They just completely removed the Saiyan tails or what?
Yeah so? Its not a revolutionary idea to have the main hero relegated to secondary status in order to develop other characters, look at York Shin Arc in HxH Gon was essentially a side character and that arc worked perfectly because of it.
This is a battle royale and the rule doesn't state that the strongest character wins its states the universe with the most people so who really gives a fuck in no one was left to challenge Jiren. I know the only kind of writing Toei and Toriyama seems to be capable of these days is guy with number wins, but thats boring as hell. A single Stand user would wreck the shit of of the entire Dbz universe since these guys seem incapable of thinking about creative ways to win fights consistently. Hell the main reason the Roshi eps are my favourite are for that exact reason.
Damn, that looks awesome. I can't wait for my son and I to finish Buu saga so we can start Super. Only 5 episodes away from season 9.
Would it be better to just watch the 2 movies and skip those episodes of Super?i pray that you and your son can power through the animation of the first 2 arcs of super cuz damn that shit is some hot garbage.
Would it be better to just watch the 2 movies and skip those episodes of Super?
Exactly.Yeah so? Its not a revolutionary idea to have the main hero relegated to secondary status in order to develop other characters, look at York Shin Arc in HxH Gon was essentially a side character and that arc worked perfectly because of it.
This is a battle royale and the rule doesn't state that the strongest character wins its states the universe with the most people so who really gives a fuck in no one was left to challenge Jiren. I know the only kind of writing Toei and Toriyama seems to be capable of these days is guy with number wins, but thats boring as hell. A single Stand user would wreck the shit of of the entire Dbz universe since these guys seem incapable of thinking about creative ways to win fights consistently. Hell the main reason the Roshi eps are my favourite are for that exact reason.
He should have. It would have made things a lot more interesting.
Last episode people were head-cannoning Keflas power with it drawing from LSS. This episode confirms she only just went SS2, meaning previous episode was probably just SS. And that SS form was as powerful as the spirit bomb.
Wat.
Last episode people were head-cannoning Keflas power with it drawing from LSS. This episode confirms she only just went SS2, meaning previous episode was probably just SS. And that SS form was as powerful as the spirit bomb.
Wat.
Within the show I only really recall Vegeta speculating on Kale's LSS form but the actual term nor her form is stated to be anything else outside of 'Berzerk'.
As fusion takes them both and amplifies that power on top of that a number of times (as we saw Vegito manhandle Buuhan when Goku and Vegeta could not be able to do anything) and since Kale's power was already ridiculous it makes sense that much of Kefla's power and continued increase would come from that but having Caulifla as the dominant personality. Because of that I don't have much issue.
well, they're finally out. lol'd at champa saying the namekians are the last hope and vegeta thinking he can master UI
even if namekian fuses they shouldn't be able to pose a threat to gohan (gohan wtf are you doing?)
Didnt the Potora rings get destroyed as Kefla was being blasted out the ring? I remember seeing at least one being shattered...
Man, I'm gonna miss Kefla. It's awesome that it took her SSJ form to bring out UI again. If Goku had missed that move, he would've been out.
Also, I really don't understand the hate Kefla(and Caulifla/Kale) get. People don't like the fact they're so strong, but they accept that Jiren is the strongest because reasons.
It's easier to accept Jirens strength because we were shown no previous limits on him, and he was presented as the strongest in the competing universes already.
We saw a KK20xSSB Goku be completely ineffective against him...Kefla should have been strong as balls, absolutely, but for her SS1 form to match the energy of the spirit bomb that had a chance of damaging Jiren when kk20xssb didn't do a scratch, when Jiren flung away a berserking Kale like she was nothing...
It's a massive powerup, even for Portara adding a tens of times multiplier. It should at least be easy to understand why people have trouble with it, even if you don't agree with them.
Its not so hard to understand why is way easier to accept Jiren being as powerful than he is that those U6 Saiyans. Jiren was introduced as being a beast which undoubtedly had his history of struggles that lead to that strength or at least that's implied. The U6 Saiyans were introduced as not even knowing what SS was and outside of Caba they both just learned it the previous day.
Toriyama pretty much created this problem by introducing the characters as too weak to begin with for no reason whatsoever. If the very first time we saw them they were already accomplished SS2s or higher this growth would make a lot more sense since we as the audience would just assume this is them continuing to build on their already experienced selves, but to leave from being novices to where they are in such a short time is just shit writing.
Hell Toriyama could have avoided this problem if he had had Cabba gone to explain was SS was to the immediately after the U6 tournament only to find out the already knew and were ahead of him. I think Toriyama's main reason for doing this is just because he likes having new characters acting all impressed by the current cast and this wouldn't have been possible if they already were at that level.
Hell Toriyama could have avoided this problem if he had had Cabba gone to explain was SS was to the immediately after the U6 tournament only to find out the already knew and were ahead of him. I think Toriyama's main reason for doing this is just because he likes having new characters acting all impressed by the current cast and this wouldn't have been possible if they already were at that level.
the namekians merging should get a decent boost since both of them individually are on par or stronger than piccolo which is supersayan level. of course they're not getting anywhere near ssgod, ssblue or mystic gohan but it would be interesting to see
Jiren just being the freak that he is for no reason at all (one yet mentioned at least) is so much more frustrating, every time he does something I just think "oh come the hell on show SOME weakness"
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Super just gotta stop introducing new powerful foes at weak initial levels.
Its not so hard to understand why is way easier to accept Jiren being as powerful than he is that those U6 Saiyans. Jiren was introduced as being a beast which undoubtedly had his history of struggles that lead to that strength or at least that's implied. The U6 Saiyans were introduced as not even knowing what SS was and outside of Caba they both just learned it the previous day.
Toriyama pretty much created this problem by introducing the characters as too weak to begin with for no reason whatsoever. If the very first time we saw them they were already accomplished SS2s or higher this growth would make a lot more sense since we as the audience would just assume this is them continuing to build on their already experienced selves, but to leave from being novices to where they are in such a short time is just shit writing.
Hell Toriyama could have avoided this problem if he had had Cabba gone to explain was SS was to the immediately after the U6 tournament only to find out the already knew and were ahead of him. I think Toriyama's main reason for doing this is just because he likes having new characters acting all impressed by the current cast and this wouldn't have been possible if they already were at that level.