Because it sounds wrong. Yeah, I know, it only sounds wrong to us because we're Dutch, but that is the reason. I have no idea about the actual rules.
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Hmm, I stand corrected. I really thought there was a difference in pronunciation, but internet says you are right.
Chuckie
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That is the exact reason Feijenoord changed its name into Feyenoord a long time ago,
There used to be a difference in pronunciation between eis and ijs, but nowadays it's only reflected in a different spelling. It's still present in a number of Dutch dialects though.
Canis lupus
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Is Geertje nog steeds een belangrijke politicus in jullie land?
Belangrijk is imo niet helemaal het juiste woord. Wellicht is 'aanwezig' een beter woord. En daarop is het antwoord ja
Ja, hij verzorgt de entertainment tijdens de debatten.
Yes, ë is a letter, it's used for pronounciation guidance most, like the word Ideën, which is spoken not as i-deen, but idee-en.
Same with é. As in één. However, no such symbols are used in capitals, for instance: één becomes Eén.
I do get the feeling that people are getting tired of his schtick though... always the same simple little trick...
Although he probably get 20 seats in parliament... but he is bound to drop a few seats... fingers crossed
Baconsaurus Rex
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Call me crazy but I do make a slight distinction between eis en ijs.
And what the hell am I doing, I'm typing this all in English automatically.
Ik weet niet hoe ik het uit moet leggen, maar, ijs klinkt iets harder/scherper dan eis, welke iets zachter klinkt (eihs).
And what the hell am I doing, I'm typing this all in English automatically.
Ik weet niet hoe ik het uit moet leggen, maar, ijs klinkt iets harder/scherper dan eis, welke iets zachter klinkt (eihs).
Ja, nog steeds een zeer prominent politicus die een fors deel van het electoraat vertegenwoordigt, hij zal bij de aankomende verkiezingen waarschijnlijk rond de twintig zetels halen als de peilingen dit keer wél kloppen. Zitten ze weer mis zoals de vorige keren, dan eerder rond de vijfentwintig zetels.
Ja, heb ik ook. IJs spreek ik meer achter in de mond uit, en eis voor.Call me crazy but I do make a slight distinction between eis en ijs.
And what the hell am I doing, I'm typing this all in English automatically.
Ik weet niet hoe ik het uit moet leggen, maar, ijs klinkt iets harder/scherper dan eis, welke iets zachter klinkt (eihs).
Chuckie
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While this is true this is not the reason it is called Long and Short. They are given different names (for children) because the pronouncation now is the same. If both spelling and pronouncation is different there is no need for an extra determinator.
Iedereen overigens deze uitermate accurate stemwijzer al geprobeerd?
http://speldwijzer.sysfix.eu/
http://speldwijzer.sysfix.eu/
Baconsaurus Rex
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Chuckie
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Exactly
Toevallig regio Rotterdam? Kan best dat het Rotterdams is oid.
Mensen uit Rotterdam kunnen de IJ niet eens uitspreken,.... die zeggen AI..
Ik kan t weten... ik heb zo'n lelijke AI... want ik kom uit Rotterdam
Gezien, en gewoon fel oneens. Veel makkelijkere grappen.
Nee, kop van Noord Holland.
This is like saying 'i want my kiwi passport hold'. Instead you say:
...omdat ik mijn kiwi paspoort wil vasthouden.
Which would mean:
...because I want to hold my kiwi passport
If you want to make it more like 'hold on to' (it's already almost there, inbetween hold and hold on to):
...omdat ik aan mijn kiwi paspoort wil vasthouden
The problem lies more with vasthouden though, wouldn't be my preferred word in this sentence. I'd go for 'behouden' = 'keep' or 'preserve'
...omdat ik mijn kiwi paspoort wil behouden.
It implies more of a feeling of wanting to preserve or not wanting to lose than 'vasthouden', which is more often used for the 'hold on to' (in a literal sense, as in with your hands) or a certain rigidity (continue (hold on) according to the script for example). It's still correct usage though (vasthouden (aan))
This means that you literally want to hold your kiwi passport in your hands.
This is as above (because I want my - doesn't make sense)
...omdat ik mijn kiwi paspoort wil vasthouden
Is correct, but behouden would be a better fit, I feel.
I'm holding on to my kiwi passport.
It sounds a tiny bit like you're hanging off a cliff holding on to your passport and proclaiming your intention to keep doing so. That's a huge exaggeration though, the sentence is not incorrect actually. I'm just blowing it up to maybe show where the 'off' feeling comes from. But it's still correct. You could use it. I'd still go for something like 'behouden' though, seems that tiny bit more associative.
This is more a literal 'I'm holding my kiwi passport' (in my hands)
Kop van Noord-Holland? Uit het altijd meer dan awesome Alkmaar toevallig?
Baconsaurus Rex
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Naar mijn mening heb ik gelukkig geen accentMensen uit Rotterdam kunnen de IJ niet eens uitspreken,.... die zeggen AI..
Ik kan t weten... ik heb zo'n lelijke AI... want ik kom uit Rotterdam
Ok, die theorie gaat dus het raam uit. Ben al blij dat ik niet gek word, vooral als zelf het internet zegt dat er geen verschil tussen ei en ij is.
Mja beter is misschien idd niet het goede woord, maar ik heb me uiterst vermaakt met die van de PVV
De Speld is uberhaupt overigens geniaal^2
I appologize for the really late response itt. But i actually have one of those 'work their asses off' jobs. And i´m not saying all, but a lot of people don´t really want to work for their money. The number of times people bluntly came over to get their little paper signed, just to show they went out for a sollicitation (so they can keep their government assistance) is incredible. People should be pushed to get to work, there is work out there, maybe not of the level one wishes, or the thing one desires. And it must suck to have studied at some uni, to end up working at AH, or to work via Randstad for a while, but it´s almost always possible to find something imho.
I don´t mind my taxes going to those who really need it, but right now it´s just insane imho.
Then again, i´m a farmers daughter, so i know how to work hard and get my hands dirty, it might be different for city people
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Chuckie
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Naar mijn mening heb ik gelukkig geen accent
Dat dacht ik ook totdat ik mezelf op tape hoorde
Dat verschil is er in het grootste gedeelte van Nederland ook niet. Het is psychlogisch man
... je kijkt naar EI en IJ en gaat het dan uitspreken, met in je gedachte Kort en Lang... en dan klinkt het anders in je hoofd.. maar als je gewoon een casual gesprek hebt is er (bij de meeste mensen) geen enke verschil tussen eis en ijs.I appologize for the really late response itt. But i actually have one of those 'work their asses off' jobs. And i´m not saying all, but a lot of people don´t really want to work for their money. The number of times people bluntly came over to get their little paper signed, just to show they went out for a sollicitation (so they can keep their government assistance) is incredible. People should be pushed to get to work, there is work out there, maybe not of the level one wishes, or the thing one desires. And it must suck to have studied at some uni, to end up working at AH, or to work via Randstad for a while, but it´s almost always possible to find something imho.
I don´t mind my taxes going to those who really need it, but right now it´s just insane imho.
Then again, i´m a farmers daughter, so i know how to work hard and get my hands dirty, it might be different for city people
Yeah, well, if it really was that easy the system would've been crashed and burned by now. You really are 100% exposed in order to receive next to nothing, and that really, REALLY sucks. It's like you are running naked through a crowded street. I should know, I'm on welfare at the moment. Yes, "there are jobs" but I didn't work so hard to finally get two master's degrees at university to have them erased from my CV in order to get a job without hearing I'm overquallified, a job I don't even want. Fuck that shit, I'm not gonna do that. Sure, gimme those jobs. I want to work, no matter how shitty a job. But I am not gonna lie about my education, about all the hard work I poured into getting where I am today just to get a job like that.
lunarworks
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Cooked some of this tonight:
There's not many places you can find it in Canada. I have to go about 80km to get it.
There's not many places you can find it in Canada. I have to go about 80km to get it.
Why does your Fanta and Coke taste like Sinalco
Just buy American Fritessaus in a supermarket.
Haha, yes, this is one that I found here in Germany too that comes closest to the McDonalds one.
It's better than mayo, but still not as good as the McDonalds one. Is the American one better?
Chuckie
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Just buy American Fritessaus in a supermarket.
Is that the same as this:
Did it taste like the McD's sauce?
Finally, a real DutchGAF thread!
But it's missing the best Dutch dish of all, Babi Panggang!
In het plat (midden gelderland) wordt de "ij" uitgesproken als "ie", ijzer is iezer, etc. De "ei" wordt meer een "ai" klank naarmate je dichter bij Duitsland komt.
En zo zijn er nog wel meer vreemde uitspraken en woorden. Je doet bijvoorbeeld een raam los en niet open
But it's missing the best Dutch dish of all, Babi Panggang!
In het plat (midden gelderland) wordt de "ij" uitgesproken als "ie", ijzer is iezer, etc. De "ei" wordt meer een "ai" klank naarmate je dichter bij Duitsland komt.
En zo zijn er nog wel meer vreemde uitspraken en woorden. Je doet bijvoorbeeld een raam los en niet open
corporate cheerleader
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Yeah, the sauces are pretty similar.
Is that the same as this:
Did it taste like the McD's sauce?
Same thing yeah.
You Germans still have the McRib though.
Baconsaurus Rex
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It is exactly the one they use at MickyD's
Just buy American Fritessaus in a supermarket.
"Remia American Fritessaus, The Real One, is een heerlijke gekruide fritessaus. Lekker bij frites, een frikandel of hamburger."
gadverdamme
Haha, yes, this is one that I found here in Germany too that comes closest to the McDonalds one.
It's better than mayo, but still not as good as the McDonalds one. Is the American one better?
Nono, that's just dutch mayo (less sour then thegerman kind). The one I posted is the yellow-greenish McD's one.
Haha, yes, this is one that I found here in Germany too that comes closest to the McDonalds one.
It's better than mayo, but still not as good as the McDonalds one. Is the American one better?
Because that one is near identical to the fritsauce we have at McDonalds here
I understand where you are comming from, but why would they be erased from your cv if you get a low level temp. job, while searching for the perfect job? All tax payers paid for your studies, why not give some back instead of going on welfare?
Baconsaurus Rex
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HAHAHA! Het is grappig dat je daarmee komt want tijdens mijn vakantie was er een grote groep uit de achterhoek en ik heb me echt daar over verbaasd.En zo zijn er nog wel meer vreemde uitspraken en woorden. Je doet bijvoorbeeld een raam los en niet open
"Ik krijg de koffer niet meer los!"
Slaat helemaal nergens op. De redenatie was dan ook dat een deur los staat omdat je hem nu vrij kan bewegen.
Nu heb ik honger. Thanks, man.
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