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e3 Predictions. MS vs. Sony vs. Ninty
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Kung Fu Jedi
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I'd guess that MS will be the hit of the show on the strength of their new console, and the fact that it is closest to being launched and will have the most mature next gen games at the show.
Sony will come in a close second showing off the power of the PS3 for the first time, but to really be impressive I think they need to start showing some new, more innovative games. It seems that the creativity has moved more to MS and Nintendo obviously has maintained their level of creativity. Sony has to maintain existing IP's of course, but the need to provide some new stuff as well.
As for Nintedno, I think they'll have a solid, but fairly quiet show. Obviously Zelda is going to make noise, as will Mario 128, but unless they show off the Gameboy 2 and reveal some serious facts about Revolution, they'll mostly be watching Sony and MS square off and steal their thunder.
I'll be looking forward to seeing Xbox 2 software and PSP titles. Can't wait to see some new stuff announced for the PSP.
Sony will come in a close second showing off the power of the PS3 for the first time, but to really be impressive I think they need to start showing some new, more innovative games. It seems that the creativity has moved more to MS and Nintendo obviously has maintained their level of creativity. Sony has to maintain existing IP's of course, but the need to provide some new stuff as well.
As for Nintedno, I think they'll have a solid, but fairly quiet show. Obviously Zelda is going to make noise, as will Mario 128, but unless they show off the Gameboy 2 and reveal some serious facts about Revolution, they'll mostly be watching Sony and MS square off and steal their thunder.
I'll be looking forward to seeing Xbox 2 software and PSP titles. Can't wait to see some new stuff announced for the PSP.
How many people want to put money on .....
whether or not the BSOD will plague Bill Gates at this event. I don't know how many occassions MS has had their presentations fuxxored by problems.
I think that's more interesting then the picking a winner. I'd kill to see Bill Gates embarrasesed/angered again.
whether or not the BSOD will plague Bill Gates at this event. I don't know how many occassions MS has had their presentations fuxxored by problems.
I think that's more interesting then the picking a winner. I'd kill to see Bill Gates embarrasesed/angered again.
krypt0nian
Banned
So once the forums die, is DC++ the way to go again? =)
Microsoft -- the mystery will be gone after the MTV special, unless they save the big guns for the conference. Playable software of next gen launch titles will be hard to beat, though PC developers could manage to compete using comparable tech.
Sony -- With no Metal Gear (unless MGOnline is a surprise title) or Grand Theft Auto planned for the PSTwo, I'm wondering if the B+ grade franchises will get that much attention. The PSP lineup will be their saving grace. PS3 will just cameo, with tech demos, video footage, powerpoint, and Sony's new dedicated network.
Nintendo -- Reggielution, Playable Zelda, and salvaging the DS with network support and truly innovative titles? Nintendo has the most to prove, and I'm not confident they have what it takes to deliver. Show me production values, and self-sacrifice, Nintendo. A willingness to compete is all that's required to "win" E3.
Coverage -- F5 will be the death of GAF. Gamespot getting their ass kicked by IGN in timely coverage last year has hopefully lit a fire under them. And, once again, press archive abuse and official site hacks will spoil much of the surprise a few hours before the conferences. Wee!
Sony -- With no Metal Gear (unless MGOnline is a surprise title) or Grand Theft Auto planned for the PSTwo, I'm wondering if the B+ grade franchises will get that much attention. The PSP lineup will be their saving grace. PS3 will just cameo, with tech demos, video footage, powerpoint, and Sony's new dedicated network.
Nintendo -- Reggielution, Playable Zelda, and salvaging the DS with network support and truly innovative titles? Nintendo has the most to prove, and I'm not confident they have what it takes to deliver. Show me production values, and self-sacrifice, Nintendo. A willingness to compete is all that's required to "win" E3.
Coverage -- F5 will be the death of GAF. Gamespot getting their ass kicked by IGN in timely coverage last year has hopefully lit a fire under them. And, once again, press archive abuse and official site hacks will spoil much of the surprise a few hours before the conferences. Wee!
Kung Fu Jedi
Member
AirBrian said:
I don't think Nintendo can completely bomb. They have enough solid stuff to prevent that. What they reveal of their next gen plans will be the deciding factor in whether or not it's a great show or just a solid one for them.
Crankenstein
Banned
I predict Drinky will ban someone over the e3 discussions.
sonycowboy
Member
MightyHedgehog said:
The absolute truest measure.
Everyone will CLAIM that they won, but to find out who really won, you just have to see what system is being attacked the most = WINNAR!
I predict
1) Microsoft will blow people's minds w/ XBox 360, graphically and with the whole infrastructure they're going to show.
2) Nintendo will have the single largest announcement regarding Revolution which will be 200,000+ thread, and
3) Sony will show another 100+ games for the PS2 and PSP. with tons of current gen exclusives and the PSP's coming out party.
I know this. The loser will be the original Xbox.
sonycowboy
Member
jett said:
Sony won't show much. Just announce the hardware (not all details) and lineup some exclusive content with incredible video only previews. But it won't be near enough to combat the full unveiling of the Xbox360.
Doom_Bringer
Banned
bitwise said:
yes you are right, axsider and massiveattack
Crankenstein
Banned
bitwise said:
How can anybody be confident console "A" will blow away console "B" when so little is known about either?
BlimBlim states when he has reliable info vs. hearsay.
Honestly, I feel that Nintendo can steal the show if the Revolution is showed off with game videos, an online service, and a good list of titles in development. We already know that there is a lot coming to the DS, and the GBA always has good support.
Zelda is going to be incredible, and if Mario 128 is playable, people and press will freak.
Zelda is going to be incredible, and if Mario 128 is playable, people and press will freak.
crisdecuba
Member
Are the Sony and Nintendo conferences scheduled already? As pathetic as this sounds, I'm taking a day off from work to watch the conferences and enjoy the whole thing (since I can't travel). Is the day set yet?
But I don't like Reggie's "this E3 will not be Revolution's coming out party" statements. I'm getting the vibe we'll see very little Revolution info, with the majority of Nintendo's focus on DS and GC (Zelda and Mario 128). It's not a bad thing, just not enough to "win" E3 this year. Like I said though, they could release some huge info about Revolution and completely own E3. I'd say 50/50 for them.Kung Fu Jedi said:
To quote akascream...Axsider said:
akascream said:Somebody didn't see the Sony conference last year.
PSP will be a runner up only because it is so sexy, and nothing to do with e3 really.
super-heated plasma
Member
I can't see how Nintendo and Sony can compete with next gen games that are playable, when all they will have is tech demos. when people start playing games like the new Perfect Dark, no one will care about the thousands of butterflies on the screen that Sony or Nintendo used to show off PS3 or Revolution.
There's no way to assess who "wins" an E3 at all...and even if there was a "winner" it doesn't make a difference to reality of who "wins" the "war" or whatever.
It's all opinion's. Last year my opinion was:
-Nintendo won: a new (needed) confident frontman in Reggie, a near flawless NDS unveiling (originally it was a product that might only get a couple people clapping, but when it was unveiled everyone clapped), Mr. Iwata came out to speak of Nintendo's future also with much confidence then the mega-surprize game in Zelda...all around Nintendo had the best pre-show ever
-Sony, eh: boring PP from Kaz, non-flashy intro to PSP...they could've done way better, but they decided not to 'cos they knew the Sony zombies would drool over the "sexiness" of PSP regardless of how boring the presentation
-MS, loser: only one "big" announcement which meant hardly anything...woo...EA on XBL, pffft...they obviously lost pazzaz in their pre-show 'cos their competitors were showing off new hardware
But that's opinion. Nintendo haters are gonna say Nintendo's show sucked last year and vice versa...so what's the point?
This year I think:
-Nintendo will try to recreate the magic they had with the previous years pre-show conference, I think they've realized the semi-importance of these conferrences to their lacking image (GDC, where Mr. Iwata typically cryptically said that the industry needed "saving", this year he instead made several awesome announcements regarding NDS & Revolution) and they're not gonna sit back and let the competition get all the spotlight, I think they'll start out quick/strong with announcements for current systems (new PokeMon for GCN, new Zelda trailor, possible GCN pricedrop and/or redesign, new peripherals for it & GBA, NDS no-line network), they'll poke fun at MS for coming out too soon and talk about how they're still supporting the current generation with some big games, then I expect people to be SHOCKED by the Revolution's design/power/features...most people are expecting another toyish, plastic, pastel colored kid machine that's gimmicy & underpowered ...they will be shocked, I expect that everything will be revealed about the system *except* the controller interface, it'll be all wireless, going online, have more features than exected and be more powerful than X-BOX 360...then the surprize game will be Mario 128 (or whatever the Mario will be for Revolution) and that Mr. Miyamoto will come out PLAYING the game (in other words, not just video form, it'll be played in real-time) with the new interface as a mega-tease without giving away too much making all want to know how it works and what it's about...this will generate buzz...people will walk away thinking: wow, it doesn't look like a toy, it's more powerful than X-BOX 360 *and* the new interface looks like fun
-Sony, I think with new management & new focus and an understanding that MS is going for a knockout X-BOX 360 unveiling that they will *lose the bordom* in their presentations...PS3 will be made out to be more powerful and more spectacular than X-BOX 360 and I think Sony (with the BR group) are making crossroads with the BR vs HD-DVD (if you've been paying attention to that recently, the two formats may be merging so as to not stagger a next generation disc format) and the PS3 party *may* be the time to let loose that announcement and then Sony can poke fun at how X-BOX 360 is for the "HD era" without a HD disc format, Sony will also focus on showing that they want to create a bigger/better XBL-like experience for PS3
-MS, having the full unveiling of their next system and the most next generation games announced plus playables will no doubt have a GREAT show...but with them basically going first they have alot to be worried about, plus there will be the shaddow of doubt cast by the cutting short of the current X-BOX and their competitors announcements of their next consoles...the most buzz will be about X-BOX 260 since it's closer to fruition, but every time it's mentioned reporters, developers, gamers will HAVE to say something about PS3 as well...and if Nintendo shocks enough people, Revolution as well
It's all opinion's. Last year my opinion was:
-Nintendo won: a new (needed) confident frontman in Reggie, a near flawless NDS unveiling (originally it was a product that might only get a couple people clapping, but when it was unveiled everyone clapped), Mr. Iwata came out to speak of Nintendo's future also with much confidence then the mega-surprize game in Zelda...all around Nintendo had the best pre-show ever
-Sony, eh: boring PP from Kaz, non-flashy intro to PSP...they could've done way better, but they decided not to 'cos they knew the Sony zombies would drool over the "sexiness" of PSP regardless of how boring the presentation
-MS, loser: only one "big" announcement which meant hardly anything...woo...EA on XBL, pffft...they obviously lost pazzaz in their pre-show 'cos their competitors were showing off new hardware
But that's opinion. Nintendo haters are gonna say Nintendo's show sucked last year and vice versa...so what's the point?
This year I think:
-Nintendo will try to recreate the magic they had with the previous years pre-show conference, I think they've realized the semi-importance of these conferrences to their lacking image (GDC, where Mr. Iwata typically cryptically said that the industry needed "saving", this year he instead made several awesome announcements regarding NDS & Revolution) and they're not gonna sit back and let the competition get all the spotlight, I think they'll start out quick/strong with announcements for current systems (new PokeMon for GCN, new Zelda trailor, possible GCN pricedrop and/or redesign, new peripherals for it & GBA, NDS no-line network), they'll poke fun at MS for coming out too soon and talk about how they're still supporting the current generation with some big games, then I expect people to be SHOCKED by the Revolution's design/power/features...most people are expecting another toyish, plastic, pastel colored kid machine that's gimmicy & underpowered ...they will be shocked, I expect that everything will be revealed about the system *except* the controller interface, it'll be all wireless, going online, have more features than exected and be more powerful than X-BOX 360...then the surprize game will be Mario 128 (or whatever the Mario will be for Revolution) and that Mr. Miyamoto will come out PLAYING the game (in other words, not just video form, it'll be played in real-time) with the new interface as a mega-tease without giving away too much making all want to know how it works and what it's about...this will generate buzz...people will walk away thinking: wow, it doesn't look like a toy, it's more powerful than X-BOX 360 *and* the new interface looks like fun
-Sony, I think with new management & new focus and an understanding that MS is going for a knockout X-BOX 360 unveiling that they will *lose the bordom* in their presentations...PS3 will be made out to be more powerful and more spectacular than X-BOX 360 and I think Sony (with the BR group) are making crossroads with the BR vs HD-DVD (if you've been paying attention to that recently, the two formats may be merging so as to not stagger a next generation disc format) and the PS3 party *may* be the time to let loose that announcement and then Sony can poke fun at how X-BOX 360 is for the "HD era" without a HD disc format, Sony will also focus on showing that they want to create a bigger/better XBL-like experience for PS3
-MS, having the full unveiling of their next system and the most next generation games announced plus playables will no doubt have a GREAT show...but with them basically going first they have alot to be worried about, plus there will be the shaddow of doubt cast by the cutting short of the current X-BOX and their competitors announcements of their next consoles...the most buzz will be about X-BOX 260 since it's closer to fruition, but every time it's mentioned reporters, developers, gamers will HAVE to say something about PS3 as well...and if Nintendo shocks enough people, Revolution as well
Ok, so if Nintendo didn't even show any Revolution footage, but they just made this announcement, would they be considered E3 winners?
Online titles in development (or at lest in planning stages) for the Revolution:
-Super Smash Bros.
-Mario Kart
-Mario Tennis/Golf/Baseball
-Mario Party
-Pikmin 3 (online vs. or co-op)
-Animal Crossing
-Fire Emblem
-Full EA Sports/EA Big lineup
-Burnout 4
If Nintendo made a full commitment to online play and dragged all their franchises into the online arena that make sense, they would rock E3 to pieces.
Online titles in development (or at lest in planning stages) for the Revolution:
-Super Smash Bros.
-Mario Kart
-Mario Tennis/Golf/Baseball
-Mario Party
-Pikmin 3 (online vs. or co-op)
-Animal Crossing
-Fire Emblem
-Full EA Sports/EA Big lineup
-Burnout 4
If Nintendo made a full commitment to online play and dragged all their franchises into the online arena that make sense, they would rock E3 to pieces.
Would it though? Since Nintendo is so far behind MS and Sony with online gaming, isn't this kind of expected? It reminds me of MS's EA Live announcement last year. It was completely expected and very anti-climatic.Jeff-DSA said:
Also, it seems like talk is cheap right now for Nintendo and the press. They'll have to actually show the games to get a major reaction IMO.
AirBrian said:
I think so, being able to play Mario Kart online is better than 3/4 of online console games available right now. Throw in favorites like Mario Tennis and Animal Crossing, and you'd have a strong online lineup. If the 3rd parties supported it as well, you'd have a far superior online lineup compared to MS or Sony just because of the 1st and 2nd party stuff being so much better.
ChronoMagnus
Banned
To me nintendo holds the finest cards. Think about it. All the Xbox 360 is gonna have is improved graphics. All the Ps3 is going to have is again improved graphics. The revolution will have the same improved graphics as the others (maybe not as strong as the Ps3 or xbox 360) and the whole new control scheme and the other revolutionary stuff. Nintendo system is the only one thats going to be more than a console on steroids. The revolution is a truely new console, gimmick or not.
If nintendo delivers on the revolution these forums along with all the video game realted forums on the net will all explode. I can see many hardcore Nintendo haters changing their tune if the revolution makes the Ps3 and xbox 360 seem outdated.
Then again, i could be wrong.
If nintendo delivers on the revolution these forums along with all the video game realted forums on the net will all explode. I can see many hardcore Nintendo haters changing their tune if the revolution makes the Ps3 and xbox 360 seem outdated.
Then again, i could be wrong.
Jeff-DSA said:
Never really thought of that...Nintendo merely mentioning any of their games together in the same sentence with Revolution Online would excite many people and possibly turn heads of the industry and gamers alike. "Nintendo's finally going online???" they'll say! The same couldn't be said if Sony or MS says they're going online, 'cos they're already there...Nintendo doing it though makes for a bigger deal 'cos they've yet to commit to it. I think this is why NDS is so key, it's a testing of this "free no-line" structure...and really making it free and more hassel free makes online gaming way more accessible which was the whole reason Nintendo never went for it with GCN.
super-heated plasma said:
Again, Nintendo and Sony are likely to show game footage alongside any tech demos...at least I hope so. In terms of the media we all receive that'd even things up a little, although obviously MS should be showing much more at this stage than either Sony or Nintendo will be willing to..
Tim the Wiz
Banned
Well I have to agree with the others here. If the Revolution pulls out all the stops, Nintendo could 'win' this year's E3. But then again, if Reggie is correct, isn't next year supposed to be the Rev's coming out party? So all I can see there is major announcements for the system. Which could be bigger than I imagine.
So then at least a major part of the focus will shift to the DS and the GCN. The GCN only has a handful of titles to draw on, Zelda being supreme, while the DS could see major updates and game announcements. And I think releasing info on the next GameBoy system just months after the release of the DS wouldn't be too bright either.
Really I don't see too much of a show happening for Nintendo. But of course, this is Nintendo and if anyone can pull something out of the bag, they can.
Really I see the show being contested mainly between Sony and MS.
MS have the best next gen stuff at the show. While Sony has the best current gen stuff to show off. Personally, I think MS slightly edges out Sony. I mean who won't be excited if next gen Perfect Dark Zero is playable?
So then at least a major part of the focus will shift to the DS and the GCN. The GCN only has a handful of titles to draw on, Zelda being supreme, while the DS could see major updates and game announcements. And I think releasing info on the next GameBoy system just months after the release of the DS wouldn't be too bright either.
Really I don't see too much of a show happening for Nintendo. But of course, this is Nintendo and if anyone can pull something out of the bag, they can.
Really I see the show being contested mainly between Sony and MS.
MS have the best next gen stuff at the show. While Sony has the best current gen stuff to show off. Personally, I think MS slightly edges out Sony. I mean who won't be excited if next gen Perfect Dark Zero is playable?
Doom_Bringer
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D2M15 said:
huh?
The thing that one must take into account is that Nintendo almost always changes their plans at the last minute. So, even though Reggie said "This won't be Nintendo's coming out party", I doubt he can truly know for sure, NOA is very much kept in the dark about these things.
Iwata, Miyamoto and the heads up in NOJ are the guys who make the final decisions. This is why they prefer to have their press conferences last, in order to gauge how big an impact the competition made with their own. They no doubt are waiting to see how much of the PS3 will be revealed, and how big of a splash MS will make with the Xbox 360 (since its going to be revealed a few days before E3, Nintendo now has more time to think about how much of the Revolution they want to put out in the open).
As far as how Nintendo will use their floor-space this year. I can only guess that the DS will get the lion's share of space (someone had a good idea of there being a large "network" cafe where people can play Mario Kart and Metroid) and Zelda will get a number of Kiosks, have no idea what the GBA will get since I cannot think of any games coming out for that. Its possible that they could have another secret area like they did with the DS last year, but then again, no one can really know.
Iwata, Miyamoto and the heads up in NOJ are the guys who make the final decisions. This is why they prefer to have their press conferences last, in order to gauge how big an impact the competition made with their own. They no doubt are waiting to see how much of the PS3 will be revealed, and how big of a splash MS will make with the Xbox 360 (since its going to be revealed a few days before E3, Nintendo now has more time to think about how much of the Revolution they want to put out in the open).
As far as how Nintendo will use their floor-space this year. I can only guess that the DS will get the lion's share of space (someone had a good idea of there being a large "network" cafe where people can play Mario Kart and Metroid) and Zelda will get a number of Kiosks, have no idea what the GBA will get since I cannot think of any games coming out for that. Its possible that they could have another secret area like they did with the DS last year, but then again, no one can really know.
shpankey
not an idiot
Considering the Xbox 360 launch this year, it would be my guess for overall winner. If not, it's in trouble. Sony will easily win 2nd with it's usual strong showing and add the PSP to the mix and it will be a great e3 for them. I'm guessing Nintendo will be in a very distant last due to a non show of Revolution. More on Zelda and Mario will of course make the Nintendo fans content however.