EA Sports Producer speaks on the negative community reaction
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Slightly Off-Topic: But what will Visual Concepts do now? Their football games were their bread and butter, will they all be without jobs soon? Will EA hire them for the Madden team? And what of the "ESPN" license that they have?? Would it even be any good if they decided to release next years game with no NFL licensing??
I'm dumbfounded that EA would take such drastic measures as this. It obviously shows they were feeling the heat from Sega. It's really sad that it's come done to this though.
I'm dumbfounded that EA would take such drastic measures as this. It obviously shows they were feeling the heat from Sega. It's really sad that it's come done to this though.
It is unfortunate to see Tiburon get beat up since they get swept into this shitstorm. However, I really do think reviewers need to judge Madden games on a higher level than other football games from now on. If EA wants to buy their way to the top, that's fine. But now they need to back it up with a game of higher calibur in every faucet. No miscues at all, NONE. And the online leagues better not be shit again!
FrenchMovieTheme
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i for one actually HOPE ea charges a fee for online leagues/franchises, because it is clear to me that they wont step up to the plate if the leagues are free. i dont mind paying an extra 20 bucks a year or whatever for complete online franchises with all the bells and whistles, and i'm sure most of the true sports fans here don't either. if EA actually charges, there is no excuses for shitty leagues (like this year)
Mrbob said:
IAWTP. I was actually thinking how it's likely that Madden would get reviewed more critically from now on because of this. It seems that 2K and Madden both kind of got free passes in the past, with maybe 10% of the reviewers pointing out the very apparent flaws in each of those titles and everyone seemingly slapping the old 9.5 on 'em before even playing. Not only that but neither title has ever gotten seriously knocked for lack of innovation other than from fans. This will likely change now, since there's no alternative that excels in certain areas where Madden fails (just like 2K used to get kind of a free pass for a shitty franchise mode b/c "if you want franchise, just get Madden").
I suggested to a friend that Visual Concepts should develop a football game based on the Mutant League series
Definitely. Too bad EA hasn't done shit with a potentially great brand in forever (not even the Mutant League Basketball promised in the Mutant League Hockey instruction manual I believe).
I foresee a bidding war for every license from here on out. It is going to be like game telecasts where the stations bid on the rights every 5 years or whatever.
For example, official football and hockey license EA gets.
Take Two gets official NBA/MLB license.
So then only one game will be the official licensed sports game which means if it sucks we are screwed without any type of alternative. Sports games without official licenses is like buying Sams Choice cola instead of Coca Cola and Pepsi.
For example, official football and hockey license EA gets.
Take Two gets official NBA/MLB license.
So then only one game will be the official licensed sports game which means if it sucks we are screwed without any type of alternative. Sports games without official licenses is like buying Sams Choice cola instead of Coca Cola and Pepsi.
Chittagong
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Wow, good that he stood up, that letter really convinced me! I think everybody overreacted and misjudged the whole thing!
Wario64 said:I suggested to a friend that Visual Concepts should develop a football game based on the Mutant League series
Actually they can get the license to make a Blood Bowl version of football. Since Mutant League is an EA series which I always thought was based on this rpg fantasy sports game. It may be finally a football game I may like for once.
Deg said:
It's fucked up because now they have no chance of competing with EA. I'm quite sure that Visual Concepts next-gen football game was well under way to fully take advantage of Xenon next year, with probably millions of dollars going in to develop it, but now they won't have a NFL license to make the money back. :\
worldrunover
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It's not just Sega. This means we can never have another Blitz game, or a true new Tecmo Bowl.
Six years ago 989 was making a better football game than EA. Who's to say there's not another developer that could push the envelope, bring new things to the table Tiburon would never even think of?
Six years ago 989 was making a better football game than EA. Who's to say there's not another developer that could push the envelope, bring new things to the table Tiburon would never even think of?
FitzOfRage
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Mrbob said:
Well I think that's exactly what the NFL wants. On the TV side, broadcasters don't even make money on the NFL anymore, but they slit their throats bidding the contracts to outrageous levels.
I think EA is kind of taking a little too much flack for this. I mean the NFL set the wheels in motion for this. I'm interested to know what were the losing offers...
dskillzhtown
keep your strippers out of my American football
Funny, if Sega would have bought the rights, everyone bitching will be saying, "GO SEGA!!!"
BULLSHIT
There was a rumor on the net a few months ago (it was even posted on this forum and dismissed as fake) that EA was courting the NFL with a $1 billion offer for exclusive rights to players and teams.
Now EA gets exclusive rights and their online PR spin is that the NFL came to them? Liars.
No, they really didn't. Thats 100% complete, pure, EA PR BULLSHIT. EA has been pushing for this for years, they finally were willing to move up to the NFL's price requirement when Sega took a bite out of their asses.
Fuck EA. I'm not buying any of their shit from now on. Quite the statement right there, I buy tons of MS' shit with no qualms. EA I'm completely sickened by. The NFL too but thats nothing new, the NFL and NFLPA have been whores for decades.
I'm going to love it when the majority of Tiburon's staff finds themselves out on their ear because EA no longer feels like paying veteran coders to make a game they could outsource to a high school C++ class and get almost equal sales numbers. Sure, they'll make strides, strides towards beating out Tomb Raider as the most milked, rehashed, game design of all time.
FrenchMovieTheme
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people keep harping on the fact that EA no longer needs to try. guess what? Madden 2003 is HONESTLY better than ESPN NFL 2k5. I'm not saying that to be funny, or as a cheap shot. If you gave me updated rosters, I would honestly rather play madden 2003 than I would ESPN NFL 2k5. the espn series is so broken it just isn't fun to play after a few weeks. I think this could be good for VC though. I would be interested in buying a football sim with a more mature franchise mode (such as drug suspensions, late hits out of bounds, and so on). what a lot of people don't realize is some features in football games are held back by the NFL. without the NFL's consent needed, VC can make a hard-hitting sim with some stuff out of playmakers. I would definintely pay $19.99 for it, NFL/NFLPA or not
Cerebral Palsy
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Both VC and EA's efforts this year were bug ridden trash, but now quality is going to decline even further. EA can suck my balls.
Legal Step
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EA can piss off.
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