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[AlternativeUlster]

I bet Lair is fun regardless. EGM grades on just about the toughest scale in the industry, and all the Rogue Squadron games for the GC were awesome and fun as hell.. Lair is probably still gonna be all good.

Did they give the Rogue Squadron games poor scores? I liked the 1st one for the Cube a lot.

Can someone do a compare and contrast between Lair and Reign of Fire and maybe opinions about which one was better?

 

[super funk]

I don't think he was one of the reviewers...

Yeah I have no idea whether he was one of the reviews or not.

 

[Shawn128]

Did they give the Rogue Squadron games poor scores? I liked the 1st one for the Cube a lot.

Can someone do a compare and contrast between Lair and Reign of Fire and maybe opinions about which one was better?

Rogue Squadron II I remember getting 9's across the board. III didn't do so well, 6-7 range if I recall right. But many still claim it to be a really fun game, so take that how you want.

 

[Hitler Stole My Potato]

Rogue Squadron II I remember getting 9's across the board..

Which is just shitballs insane. The only thing I could attribute that to was that -

A) It was a Star Wars game set in the original universe

B) It was a launch title for a Nintendo system

C) It looked insanely good


Gameplay wise, it was a dog.

 

[Gigglepoo]

Rogue Squadron II I remember getting 9's across the board. III didn't do so well, 6-7 range if I recall right. But many still claim it to be a really fun game, so take that how you want.

I assume RS2 got such a high score because it was a launch title. Those are always inflated. RS2 got a 9.0 from EGM, RS3 had a 71.7% average rating.

 

[super funk]

Rogue Squadron II I remember getting 9's across the board. III didn't do so well, 6-7 range if I recall right. But many still claim it to be a really fun game, so take that how you want.

RS III got exactly what it deserved. The on foot parts were a complete mess and once the same was announced for Lair, I knew it was doomed. Factor 5, keep your games in the air.

 

[RobertM]

RS III got exactly what it deserved. The on foot parts were a complete mess and once the same was announced for Lair, I knew it was doomed. Factor 5, keep your games in the air.

Umm, tyou can get off and on the dragon, that's it, no on foot action.

 

[AlternativeUlster]

Which is just shitballs insane. The only thing I could attribute that to was that -

A) It was a Star Wars game set in the original universe

B) It was a launch title for a Nintendo system

C) It looked insanely good


Gameplay wise, it was a dog.

Yeah, this type of a dog:

"I Ruv Roo!"

Anyways, the only thing I hated about the game was when you had to trip landwalkers or whatever they are called. I don't know the real name because I am not a nerd.

 

[Hitler Stole My Potato]

[Manabyte]Imperial Walkers! [/Manabyte]

 

[Y2Kev]

[Manabyte]Imperial Walkers! [/Manabyte]

:lol

*shrieks*

 

[super funk]

Umm, tyou can get off and on the dragon, that's it, no on foot action.

Really? Then Ive been hating on it for the wrong reason. It must suck on its own merits then.

 

[arias]

Really? Then Ive been hating on it for the wrong reason. It must suck on its own merits then.

Yeah you hated on it for something that was non-existent.

Good man.

x

 

[tanod]

Snake goes to Hell and kills Satan, then gets sent to Heaven where he kills God?

Kojima is making MGS4, not Xenogears.

 

[super funk]

Yeah you hated on it for something that was non-existent.

Good man.

x

:lol

I could have sworn that I read something about getting off the dragons and I assumed that meants on foot fighting. And I dont mean so much 'hating' as much as I mean an excuse for why it sucked.

 

[arias]

Kojima is making MGS4, not Xenogears.

Eat shit you. I know he's going to cardboard box God.

x

 

[tanod]

Eat shit you. I know he's going to cardboard box God.

x

Such hate and vitriol. Even if joking, is that really necessary?

Spoiler

Xeno-fans are a very scary bunch.

 

[watership]

hey even Bungie made crap games before Halo.^^

Oh wow. I'm going to assume sarcasm here.

 

[AlternativeUlster]

[Manabyte]Imperial Walkers! [/Manabyte]

I don't know who Manabyte is but I will add him to my nerd list.

 

[MageLord]

I knew Lair wouldn't be as great as people would have thought. I didn't expect Blue Dragon to get raving reviews either.

I can't say I'm all that surprised about Blue Dragon much to my disappointment. Have any of you played the demo on XBL? It was horrible IMO!

 

[Psychotext]

I can't say I'm all that surprised about Blue Dragon much to my disappointment. Have any of you played the demo on XBL? It was horrible IMO!

I know I've said it before... but the demo was utter shite compared to the full release game. I don't know how they managed to screw it up so much. =(

 

[JzeroT1437]

It's awesome that GAF managed to produce a 46 page thread concerning one magazine's mediocre ranking of a game about Fighting Dragons.

 

[bud]

LAIR > ERAGON?

 

[Y2Kev]

Can anyone produce the Zinio link?

 

[Karma Kramer]

WTF is a Zinio?

 

[bud]

kev: http://www.zinio.com/delivery?issn=1058-918Xd&of=PI1&bd=1&rf=eb_2005

 

[PolyGone]

LAIR > Drakengard?

fixed

 

[Mojovonio]

I'm looking at the mag right now, I can confirm those scores are real.

 

[AstroLad]

I'm looking at the mag right now, I can confirm those scores are real.

Finally some confirmation.

beelzebozo really lucked out that his made-up fanboy scores matched the real ones.

 

[BenjaminBirdie]

Finally some confirmation.

beelzebozo really lucked out that his made-up fanboy scores matched the real ones.

*hugs*

"...you came back..."

 

[Creamium]

I've just seen this and I'm quite shocked at the Lair scores... I always loved Rogue Leader on the Cube (even got gold medals on 10+ missions), looks like they dropped the ball on this one. Or the 3 EGM guys are horribly wrong.

 

[sprocket]

I've just seen this and I'm quite shocked at the Lair scores... I always loved Rogue Leader on the Cube (even got gold medals on 10+ missions), looks like they dropped the ball on this one.

Whats with this SCORES? EGM is the only one to give it a bad score so far. :/

 

[Mojovonio]

They even have a section with Julian defending the game.

 

[Creamium]

Whats with this SCORES? EGM is the only one to give it a bad score so far. :/

Are there any other (reputable) ones? I've been out of it for a few days

 

[beelzebozo]

beelzebozo really lucked out that his made-up fanboy scores matched the real ones.

i got hit on the head with a flower pot, and i just have these. . . visions

 

[Mojovonio]

Whats with this SCORES? EGM is the only one to give it a bad score so far. :/

Uhhh, there's the EGM ones and the PLAY one.

 

[Creamium]

i got hit on the head with a flower pot, and i just have these. . . visions

Oh, oh! Can you tell me what score Corruption will get? That'd be ever so neat

 

[beelzebozo]

i see only tears. . . but it's unclear whether they're of jubilation or sadness

also, it looks like it's splitsville for delta burke and major dad

 

[Hitler Stole My Potato]

But they seemed so happy together!

 

[Kobun Heat]

Whats with this SCORES? EGM is the only one to give it a bad score so far. :/

There is no hive mind called "EGM." Three people who played the game independently and didn't talk to each other during the process gave it mediocre scores.

 

[Darji]

There is no hive mind called "EGM." Three people who played the game independently and didn't talk to each other during the process gave it mediocre scores.

yeah but they tested an early version and i am sure they played not through the whole game. Anyway the podcast from 13. august will be very interesting becaus Eggebrecht is on their show and will talk with them about the score^^

 

[Kafel]

yeah but they tested an early version and i am sure they played not through the whole game.

lol

 

[vpance]

yeah but they tested an early version and i am sure they played not through the whole game. Anyway the podcast from 13. august will be very interesting becaus Eggebrecht is on their show and will talk with them about the score^^

LOL at Eggebrecht having to appear on their very own show to do damage control. Mag gets attention and then the podcast. Poor game review on high profile titles is smart.

It's like the teacher giving the student a poor grade and now the father has to go in front of the class to explain why he's not a retard. What shame. Teacher gets a pay raise too (ratings).

 

[Darji]

LOL at Eggebrecht having to appear on their very own show to do damage control.

It's like the teacher giving the student a poor grade and now the father has to go in front of the class to explain why he's not a retard. What shame. Teacher gets a pay raise too (ratings).

maybe but if EGM the only one who felt that its a very bad game then i am curios to hear their thoughts about the game and why they gave such a bad score.

 

[Semjaza Azazel]

There's like two reviews of this game out right now. What are you basing this on? EGM and Play? It's not like there aren't magazines known to love a game while every one else hates it either. It could be either. It really remains to be seen.

Plus, Julian talks a big game all of the time. He did so with the GameCube and what they did and he's been doing it with this game and the PS3. I really don't think what he thinks about it is of any importance.

 

[AstroLad]

LOL at Eggebrecht having to appear on their very own show to do damage control. Mag gets attention and then the podcast. Poor game review on high profile titles is smart.

Say what you will about his game, but the guy really seems to believe in it.

 

[JDSN]

yeah but they tested an early version and i am sure they played not through the whole game. Anyway the podcast from 13. august will be very interesting becaus Eggebrecht is on their show and will talk with them about the score^^

:lol That will be fun.

 

[Darji]

Say what you will about his game, but the guy really seems to believe in it.

he has all reason to believe in this game. First the Soundtrack is truly epic and ****ing great., the visuals are amaizing and according to many people who have played the demo think that the controls are iritating at first but after a few minutes they begin to shine^^

 

[Randy Lanzarote]

What happens if other news outlets start giving Lair bad reviews, will Eggbrecht start jetting across the world trying to argue his case with various journalists and reviewers? I think developers are welcome to rebuttals on their scores given to their games, but I'm not sure I like the way this issue is panning out at the moment.

Does Edge have a review of Lair in this month's edition? I know its out on August 2nd I believe, was going to pop to the shops tomorrow to see if some foolhardy shopkeep has put them out early.

 

[Darji]

What happens if other news outlets start giving Lair bad reviews, will Eggbrecht start jetting across the world trying to argue his case with various journalists and reviewers? I think developers are welcome to rebuttals on their scores given to their games, but I'm not sure I like the way this issue is panning out at the moment.

Does Edge have a review of Lair in this month's edition? I know its out on August 2nd I believe, was going to pop to the shops tomorrow to see if some foolhardy shopkeep has put them out early.

according to rumors they have and gave Lair a 9^^

 

[Randy Lanzarote]

according to rumors they have and gave Lair a 9^^

Please don't tell me that you are taking those rumours from the fud thread at Gametrailers last night? IIRC you were the one who linked there after all.