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ELDEN RING | Reviews Mega Thread
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AV
We ain't outta here in ten minutes, we won't need no rocket to fly through space
Ocarina of Time at 20fps is still a better video game than a lot of those that run at 60. Framerate != game quality.
Spaceman292
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AV
We ain't outta here in ten minutes, we won't need no rocket to fly through space
If you're talking about games being well optimised, as long as it runs to a decent level, nobody really cares - RDR2 was never going to hit a stable framerate on 5 year old hardware looking as amazing as it did. A few frame dips in the towns didn't and shouldn't mark it down when it worked fine. When games become hard to play, that's when you have a problem, but forum dwellers are hyperbolic and think that dips to 27fps are a disaster.
Sure, and even better at 120, right? That doesn't mean we mark games up for being able to hit higher frame rates. As long as it's perfectly playable it simply doesn't matter no matter how much we prefer it.
Spaceman292
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The artful mincer
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Agreed but this isn't necessarily true of other Franchises like Persona. Giving the review to the publication resident fan will likely result in a narrow focus of the review. This is fine on an individual level but when you have a 100 similar reviews on metacritic with very little variation it can be an issue
Doesn't this suggest that you want some variation in experience or options with individual reviewers? Okay your not interested in beginner reviews but you require a minimum level of knowledge/ competency but just having the super harcore fans do reviews may not be applicable to you?
Really? Surely it's likely that you have completely different tastes and preferences to hardcore JRPG players. Obviously they will have greater knowledge than a casual player and are definitely valuable to the consumer. It doesn't necessarily mean they will be good at recommending games you enjoy. I'am like you a very casual JRPG player I loved dragon quest 11 but bounced off Persona 5 hard. Yet if I am to believe metacritic Persona 5 is the better game.
Agreed that is definitely valuable but why can't we have it all?
RexAnglo
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I see you aren't very bright, so let me explain it to you in simple language.
This is a forum, and this means people will offer their opinions, and you won't always agree.
Do you understand?
What you are looking for is an echo chamber, a safe space, where everyone agrees - so perhaps try Reset-Eran as it's full of imbeciles who all think the same, so you'll fit right in.
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AV
We ain't outta here in ten minutes, we won't need no rocket to fly through space
Here's the thing - how do you know it's only super hardcore fans reviewing Elden Ring..? Having played the previous games doesn't make you a super hardcore fan. I wouldn't even call myself one and I've beaten everything so far. All I'm looking for are people that are at least a little clued into what From have been doing for the last decade or so, I don't think I've seen any review so far claiming to be written by a superfan who's beaten every game a dozen times over. If they can properly describe how the game has evolved from its predecessors then generally I trust that they know what they're talking about. Alanah Pierce saying that the game "isn't accessible just because you can teleport away from bosses" was a totally bullshit statement and she swiftly deleted the Tweet once she realised because it looked like she had no idea what she's talking about.
Not really, if people deep in FPS games tell me Titanfall 2 has an amazing campaign, I'm definitely more like to trust them than some guy who played the latest COD campaign and said it was rad. No real surprise that the highest rating driving games on MC are Gran Turismo, Burnout, Wipeout, Forza. Works across the board for me and games.
cortadew
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Miyazaki-sama* fixed
I'm sorry to doubt you even a little, Miyazaki-san.
MatrixReloaded101
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Elden Ring performance: what to expect on PS5, Series X/S and PC
Elden Ring's launch has been marked by strong reviews praising its gameplay and art direction, but also questions over …
www.eurogamer.net
Elden Ring performance: what to expect on PS5, Series X/S and PC
Elden Ring's launch has been marked by strong reviews praising its gameplay and art direction, but also questions over …
www.eurogamer.net
- Nothing was changed from Beta
- Performance mode: 45-60fps
- Quality Mode: 30-60fps
- Unlocked framerate for both machines
- 60fps in Quality Mode is rarely hit
- PS5 is typically operating at a higher frame-rate than Series X
- Even with the trade-offs PS4 app on PS5 is the best way to play the game on consoles right now
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Hooks
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Right but there’s plenty other threads going on in the forum why would you go to one that you’re not interested in and announce that? Do you wanna feel special or something? Do you think we care?
Swift_Star
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You can say whatever you want and we can challenge you. Deal with it and stop crying because you got called out.
That said: nobody cares this game doesn't interest you.
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The artful mincer
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Poor choice of words on my part for me hardcore would be someone who has beaten every souls game. I would be perfectly happy to read reviews from 1st timers ( even if they are rare at this point) or people that didn't fit this criteria.
This does not mean there aren't terrible reviews and idiotic critics. E.g. some clown complained about horizon being to easy while playing on easy
. But this doesn't mean he can't be on metacritic we can just choose to ignore him (or point and laugh at him!)To be clear it is awesome that elden ring is reviewing so well but it's disappointing that I can't read even one well written negative review out of the 100 already up
Sure but it doesn't have to be one or the other. Instead you could listen to someone who's taste align with yours than an expert on a genre.
Fair enough.Have you never disagreed with a 90 + on metacritic? Its fine if you haven't but I would find that surprising.
Swift_Star
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Not really. I don't have to call a game "overrated" because this notion simply doesn't exist.
What actually exists is the fact that people's taste doesn't necessarily align with mine so stuff can be excellent, I may not like it and that in no way means said stuff is bad and should be graded lower.
I don't like racing games but I don't think Forza is overrated.
Not liking=/=bad.
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Klayzer
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Does he not realize the same applies to his comments. Don't get pissy when other users call you out for your "look at me im different" takes. I swear, every new high profile release brings out the attention hoes.
The artful mincer
Member
Completely disagree all review scores are subjective. You can only ever speak for yourself and should be able to give whatever score you want.
The artful mincer
Member
Yeah that's the point? Game reviews are opinions? Or do you think there something else
AV
We ain't outta here in ten minutes, we won't need no rocket to fly through space
Absolutely, but here's where my problem comes in regarding the language people are using around this conversation - I don't think games "shouldn't" have scored X just because I wasn't one of the vast majority of people who thought so. The Last of Us 1/2 are the best examples, I think they're vastly overrated games, but if 100 critics think they're 8+ games, I have to accept that I'm just in the tiny minority there. People in another thread claiming that Mario Odyssey "shouldn't be" a 97 on Opencritic are crazy, they're simply in a minority and should learn to deal with that.
Not that this really applies to what you and I were talking about, but yeah. Hope you do dip your toes into Elden Ring and have a blast.
Hinedorf
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You can listen to somebody sing on American Idol for 10 seconds and pretty quickly tell if somebody has legit talent or not. If you really think you need 80+ hours on a completed game to have an opinion you're fucking nuts
The artful mincer
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Deep my toes lol I am gonna jump in head first and swim around in it till I drown
if I could get a ps5 that is...I guess to some up what I mean is if a diverse enough group of people review a game it would be almost impossible for game to score a certain score because they will always be people that dislike a game.
Yeah the average score is not really the issue it's the sameness that's the bigger problem. To highlight it would be better if out of 100 critics 90 gave a game 10/10 but the final 10 used the whole scale and gave 6,5 and 3s etc as opposed to 80 giving 10 and the rest 8,9, and 7 etc.
Maybe the sample size is not big enough and that's all there is to it
RexAnglo
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Because, I'll comment where I want.
Does that register?
Get it through your thick skull, you don't decide what is said and by whom.
Now, run along.
RexAnglo
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You are the one who got so monumentally butthurt because I voiced my opinion in an open forum that you've been repeatedly crying over it.
All I said was I must be one of the few people who isn't particularly interested in this game...that's all.
I didn't attack the game, or anyone in here.
For some reason, this upset you so much you had to tell me about it..multiple times.
So, for the third time, and please pay attention this time...this...is...an...open...forum...about...games.
Everyone can, and does, voice their opinion.
If you find this unsettling and need to retreat to a safe space where everyone reinforces your worldview and never questions anything, then you should avoid an open forum.
Is that making any sense to you?
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Bragr
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You can tell from 10 seconds if they got promise, not if they can sing well technically, or how well their voice can handle more than pre-chosen songs.
Of course you need to complete a game to fully judge it, you need to get the full picture, there are TONS of examples of games that change the nature of the game in the endgame. From Persona 5, to Days Gone, to virtually every Final Fantasy, if you don't play the last 10-15 hours of those games, you miss out on key aspects. If you can't finish games you got nothing to do in-game journalism and you're a lazy son of a bitch.
Swift_Star
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The lack of self-awareness if really fun, you know?
Not gonna read that, sorry.
Imma leave you talking alone now.
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
Wishful thinking or opinion?I won’t assume anything at all
I bought both titles as well and?
Going to continue to derail?
Javthusiast
Banned
Canceled my order, sold my Xbox, given up gaming. xD
Swift_Star
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Wishful thinking. You're the one that started the derail lol.
Danjin44
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But at same time that review useless to people enjoy JRPGs and as huge fan of Xenoblade, I wouldn't exactly recommend that game as your FIRST JRPG.
Hooks
Member
Bruh you just joined this thread to be antisocial just fuck off.
The artful mincer
Member
Absolutely but that's my broader point no singular review will work for everyone so its good to have as much variety as possible
Danjin44
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Sure but the way I see it if someone who zero experience with JRPG reviewing them can fresh perspective but at the same time they cant be informative about the game because the reviewer himself/herself are inexperienced.
The artful mincer
Member
Yeah agreed as long as the reviewers is transparent about this and articulates there points well I don't see the issue.
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
Nope.
I wasn't the one who started the(derailment) HZFW sale comparisons but continue on if you must.
AutumnLeaves
Member
Elden Ring performance: what to expect on PS5, Series X/S and PC
Elden Ring's launch has been marked by strong reviews praising its gameplay and art direction, but also questions over …
- Nothing was changed from Beta
- Performance mode: 45-60fps
- Quality Mode: 30-60fps
- Unlocked framerate for both machines
- 60fps in Quality Mode is rarely hit
- PS5 is typically operating at a higher frame-rate than Series X
- Even with the trade-offs PS4 app on PS5 is the best way to play the game on consoles right now
What do they mean by PS4 APP on PS5? Like, just putting the PS4 disc in PS5? This is all so confusing. I just want smooth 60.
And does anyone have footage of PS4 version being run on PS5?
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ZoukGalaxy
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This OT is so MASSIVE it won't load fully on my phone
Ops sorry, wrong thread, nevermind.
Ops sorry, wrong thread, nevermind.
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Arachnid
Member
Agreed.
People with no understanding or appreciation of the style/genre shouldn't be reviewing those games (IGN's Ryan McCaffrey giving legit survival horror GOLD like Alien Isolation a 5.9 for example, just because he couldn't figure out game mechanics) It's fine if a game isn't for a certain player, but someone hating a legit well made game because it's strengths went over their head shouldn't tank review scores or sales. Silent Hill 2 was sh*t on by many at launch despite it having arguably the best story and horror set pieces in video gaming. Souls games were trashed by many despite them having some of the best pure gameplay experiences and exploration of the gen (and Dark Souls 1 is now one of the most influential games of all time). Certain games and genres have strengths that should be reviewed by people understand those strengths on at least some level (someone earlier in the thread pointed out that a Resident Evil fan shouldn't be reviewing a JRPG; not mutually exclusive), but Persona 5 was my first game the series and it's now one of my games of the gen because I can appreciate JRPGs and good combat systems due to at lease some history with games like Final Fantasy and Chrono Trigger.
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Danjin44
The nicest person on this forum
Exactly! For example lets say I want get in to MMOs, I would want to go to reviewer who has experienced with those type of games and tell me what so special about them and how inexperienced player can get in to it, but if you got to reviewer who has also zero experienced then it wouldn't be informative review, it would be just waste of my time.
Klayzer
Member
Ever notice people that are not Souls fans, or have even played these types of games, are very vocal about it being overated/overhyped from just videos.
Karak
Member
It was not. I covered AI and its lack of reactions and why that might be and how it worked in mine
AutumnLeaves
Member
Thank you. Just ordered the PS4 version.
Ass of Can Whooping
Gold Member
Man Margit's second phase is kicking my ass.
Looks like i'll need to stop playing this like DS.
Looks like i'll need to stop playing this like DS.
Wesleyalucard
Member
Where are the other reviews and where are the user reviews
Slothbeing1209
Member
Why does this game only have 49 reviews?
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