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Elemental: War of Magic |OT| Spellbooks, Spiders and Shards
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Mengy
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Sinatar said:
Well that's dissapointing. I'm having fun with Civ5 right now, and even though the AI is severely lacking, the gameplay is solid and still fun enough to keep me interested. I guess Elemental is just not ready to buy yet...
I'm still waiting for 1.1, which is going to be a huge overhaul, supposedly. Design, AI, aesthetic...tons of changes incoming.
With Civ V, Madden, Halo etc I just have Elemental on the back-burner. Based on what I have played of it, however, I fully expect Elemental to be my favorite game of 2011.
With Civ V, Madden, Halo etc I just have Elemental on the back-burner. Based on what I have played of it, however, I fully expect Elemental to be my favorite game of 2011.
Would you recommend this game to somebody fairly new to RTS games? I mean, I've played some Warcraft 3, but Blizzard is incredibly good at streamlining a game. I'm a little worried since it looks cool but RTS games intimidate me. They're like the genre that bullies me back into my corner playing my jRPGs. :<
<GAF> Play CivV, then this
<GAF> Play CivV, then this
Crazetex said:
Elemental is a TBS game, meaning that you'll be assigning only one or two actions to your units / cities each turn. You don't have any of the pressure to build or move units out quickly, nor will you have to worry about how fast your hands are moving. Think Final Fantasy 1 or Civilization rather than Starcraft.
The game itself is fun, but still needs work. In all honesty, if you have other games you're interested in - you might want to look into those first and come back to Elemental a few months down the road. It has a lot of potential and an interesting aesthetic but right now I think its more appealing to fans of the old Master of Magic title. Still needs a bit more to stand on its own.
Play Age of Wonders: Shadow Magic instead of this. It's everything this game is trying to be, just utterly better in every single regard.
This.eznark said:
Bought it on release day (CE none the less) and gave it a try after the 1.09 patch and there's something here but it needs some work and the 1.1 seems to be all I'm looking for. Until then I have loads of games to keep me occupied (Civ V, EOIII, Four Warriors of Light and FFXIV).
arstal said:
The AI in Elemental is better? Are you on crack? I've yet to play a game (and this is including the recent 1.09) where the AI doesn't kamikaze their sovereigns into my most defended towns, instantly killing their entire empire. The AI in Elemental is so freaking broken it's almost comical. At least AOW:SM is functional.
DennisK4 said:
Stardock rarely puts their own games cheap. You'll be waiting a while- though the game will patched to hell and back.
I hate saying this because I am a fan of Stardock, but it's always best to wait until their first XP. Kinda the same rules that applied to Paradox back in the day apply to Stardock now.
Then again, you do end up with the awesomeness of old Paradox.
You can always wait for the add-ons- especially since the deal to get the future 2nd XP free has expired.
BTW There's an announcement from SD about hiring a "name" guy to be the producer for post-release support coming today. Scuttlebutt on SD forums is that it's Kael from the FFH2 team.
BTW There's an announcement from SD about hiring a "name" guy to be the producer for post-release support coming today. Scuttlebutt on SD forums is that it's Kael from the FFH2 team.
Good call
http://www.stardock.com/about/newsitem.asp?id=2056
You can hear Paxton talk about his experiences with FFH here:
http://flashofsteel.com/index.php/2010/08/03/three-moves-ahead-episode-76-modding-strategy-games/
http://www.stardock.com/about/newsitem.asp?id=2056
You can hear Paxton talk about his experiences with FFH here:
http://flashofsteel.com/index.php/2010/08/03/three-moves-ahead-episode-76-modding-strategy-games/
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Things are looking better for this game. I will definitely pick it up after a few more patches and a sale.
Hari Seldon
Member
Waiting for a sale then I'm pulling the trigger on this. Although that might depend on when the next EU3 expansion drops.
I think Stardock may actually be planning to put this on sale once the expansions are out.
They didn't really put GalCivII on sale until very late, so it will be a while. Stardock's philosophy on sales is tiny sales early and big sales after a game is pretty much done and just about everyone who really wanted it already has it.
1.1 first beta is scheduled for early November (1st week I believe) Some info was on the elemental site about the specialist system and a little on the magic system that are being changed.
The combat system, which is the real problem to me, that's going to be Kael's job- and that won't be out until 2011.
They didn't really put GalCivII on sale until very late, so it will be a while. Stardock's philosophy on sales is tiny sales early and big sales after a game is pretty much done and just about everyone who really wanted it already has it.
1.1 first beta is scheduled for early November (1st week I believe) Some info was on the elemental site about the specialist system and a little on the magic system that are being changed.
The combat system, which is the real problem to me, that's going to be Kael's job- and that won't be out until 2011.
http://forums.elementalgame.com/399482
The deadline for the getting the XP's free is this Sunday.
First 1.1beta is the following Thursday or Friday most likely (SD always releases one of those days)
The deadline for the getting the XP's free is this Sunday.
First 1.1beta is the following Thursday or Friday most likely (SD always releases one of those days)
So is anyone playing currently? I'm trying to get into these types of games. I've played the 100-turn Civ 5 demo 3 times now and while I do like it I'm not really sure that it's grabbing me enough to want to spend $50. The opening just seems so...slow, I guess. Too much spamming the end turn button. I also don't really like that it progresses so quickly. I know these are items that the full game handles better than the beta so I'm not entirely counting it out.
I'd like something that allows me to focus more on taking things at a slow pace and gradually building a few really cool cities, a nice army and, eventually, waging warfare on a grand scale across a huge map. Would Elemental be any more conducive to that than Civ is? For what it's worth I like Elementals aesthetics much more, as well as the tactical combat and the fact that the game doesn't progress through time.
I'd like something that allows me to focus more on taking things at a slow pace and gradually building a few really cool cities, a nice army and, eventually, waging warfare on a grand scale across a huge map. Would Elemental be any more conducive to that than Civ is? For what it's worth I like Elementals aesthetics much more, as well as the tactical combat and the fact that the game doesn't progress through time.
For anyone who bought Elemental on Sunday due to Amazon's B2G1 deal, you can ask Stardock to change your Impulse purchase date to 10/31 after you register it if you provide a sales receipt. This will allow you to receive the first two expansions for free. I've confirmed this with Stardock Sales.
Elemental 1.1 final comes out tonight.
They've really made a huge, vast amount of improvements to the game. Kael did a real bang-up job from me playing the betas.
I'd say, honest opinion right now- the game is an 8/10. There are still some balance issues and some UI quibbles that I dislike (The UI stuff was put off to 1.2), but the game is now fun, and they've added a lot to it, as well as fixing 99% of the bugginess and crashiness.
For those who have given up on the game, it's time to give it another shot tomorrow (tonight= LATE tonight, at least 10:30PM BTW)
They've really made a huge, vast amount of improvements to the game. Kael did a real bang-up job from me playing the betas.
I'd say, honest opinion right now- the game is an 8/10. There are still some balance issues and some UI quibbles that I dislike (The UI stuff was put off to 1.2), but the game is now fun, and they've added a lot to it, as well as fixing 99% of the bugginess and crashiness.
For those who have given up on the game, it's time to give it another shot tomorrow (tonight= LATE tonight, at least 10:30PM BTW)
Very excited. I've booted it up a few times as they've released 1.09(xx) versions to test stability and stuff but I haven't launched a full game. This is a perfect time for the patch to hit.
Man I wish they had the ability to wait til now to launch. Wide open window and people are probably burning out on Civ.
Man I wish they had the ability to wait til now to launch. Wide open window and people are probably burning out on Civ.
platypotamus
Member
Cool, looking forward to jumping back in soon.
ElectricThunder
Member
Nifty, though I'm expecting an Impulse Server Slam so I'll probably get to it in a near early morning as, IIRC, it will be a hefty patch given that I'm still at 1.0 as the game is in "wait for doings" mode.
http://forums.elementalgame.com/402305Moobabe said:
I just c&p'd it into Word to see how long it is. 18 pages. So no, I won't be pasting the whole thing!
Honestly one of my biggest problem with the game is how fucking ugly your Sovereign is, there's simply no way to customize him to the point that you're even remotely okay with his appearance (and that of course applies to every other character in the game) : I Couldn't they at least have put in an effort on the hair and beards and not make them look like something straight out of FFVII?eznark said:
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Sinatar said:
I thought Brad Wardell wrote the novelization of the game?
Lasthope106
Member
How does this game compare to Civ V. With the recent high-profile hires and Stardock's history of supporting their games, I'm considering this game. What say you Elemental-GAF?
Improvements to the game's AI without concomitant improvements to the game's mechanics are rather disheartening. The propensity of the AI toward self-termination was, considering the overall state of the game, one of Elemental's most endearing features.
I felt the game was an incoherent mess upon its release, and I am of the same opinion still. All of the patches that the game has thus far received are very much the sort of thing that should have been implemented before the game ever saw release, seeing as they drastically alter or completely replace core game mechanics that really had no business not being locked down before they called the game finished.
If ever the day comes that the issues of Elemental are fixed I'm sure you'll hear about it, but that day is not today and the prospects of it being tomorrow are dim indeed.
Lasthope106 said:
I felt the game was an incoherent mess upon its release, and I am of the same opinion still. All of the patches that the game has thus far received are very much the sort of thing that should have been implemented before the game ever saw release, seeing as they drastically alter or completely replace core game mechanics that really had no business not being locked down before they called the game finished.
If ever the day comes that the issues of Elemental are fixed I'm sure you'll hear about it, but that day is not today and the prospects of it being tomorrow are dim indeed.
eznark said:
Looks like this, apparently.
Further reading in the article indicates Paxton wants the game to focus more on exploration, world interaction and bigger spells ("envelop an entire enemy kingdom in the icy grip of winter or open a gateway to a shadow world that dark creatures can come through").
Contrary to most people I rather like the game as it is, even though I know intellectually it isn't that great. I'm interested to see what all this brings.
Edit: Also, apparently the game will be stand-alone, something Wardell says gives them more leeway to make a "new game". Apparently they will continue to iterate upon War of Magic for those who don't buy Fallen Enchantress.
The game is 50% off this weekend on Impulse. Is it worth it after all the patching? Kind of tempted considering I almost pre-ordered it at full price.
http://www.impulsedriven.com/elemental
http://www.impulsedriven.com/elemental