Eminem raps about wanting to rape Iggy Azalea in leaked song
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Red Liquorice
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The only time I ever hear this dorks name is over some mysognistic comment or lyric, is he really that desperate for publicity. Who even pays attention to this has-been novelty act outside of this kind of rubbish.
People rarely know when they're being played. I didn't know Em even had a new album coming out. Now I do. Mission accomplished.
Jest Chillin
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He's only ever done that sparingly. Who Knew is on the same album as "Kill You," "Remember Me?" "Bitch Please 2," "Criminal," and "Kim" which is by far his most disturbing track.
There's nothing to suggest that he isn't capable of the social commentary today either. Perhaps he just doesn't have anything he cares to comment on at the moment. Social Commentary was never his primary style, while shock raps were apart of everything from Slim Shady EP/LP onwards. Your memory is playing tricks on you if you think that he was only ever shocking for a greater purpose. He wasn't. It was shock for shock's sake.
2.2 Million people at least, in the US alone for his last album. His popularity puts focus on his lyrics, not the other way around.
I don't really think he even needs an out... Eminem never was a PC rapper, so who cares.
He also still has the same lame excuse for using faggot that he's been using since his original controversy.
I understand people thinking this is all over-sensitivity; but isn't there a middle ground where people can point out how stupid / childish this all is without being called the PC police?
Sheriff_Battlesnake
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He's insensitive and out of touch. He's just outdated.
But damn it, he's a good rapper. People are acting like he needs to put the mic down.
But damn it, he's a good rapper. People are acting like he needs to put the mic down.
massivekettle
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Rich of Iggy to diss Eminem when she has controversies of her own.
Rich of Iggy to diss Eminem when she has controversies of her own.
How do you rewrite the narrative to be Iggy Azalea "dissing" Eminem when he wrote a song about raping her?
Jest Chillin
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The song is not about raping Iggy Azalea. It's 2 lines in a song about doing crazy stuff in Las Vegas.
The last few years have made me feel very, very old. It's kind of crazy to think about since I'm just in my 30's, but yes, some of us are now the old people yelling at the music / loud noises.
This thread is an amazing example of it. I blame the Internet, myself, for people getting sucked into echo chambers and now thinking "the world has moved on" when....it hasn't moved nearly as much ast hey think.
And he's still selling, so whaddya gonna do.
It's going to be a sad day when people aren't allowed to offend each other, anymore. Getting close.
massivekettle
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First off, it's like 2 lines of an entire song.
Second, she played the "holier-than-thou" card in her tweets.
Oh, I guess that's how you rewrite the narrative.
RickGhastly
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One also wonders if Em would be so territorial if Iggy wasn't the only other "white'ish" rapper to come along since himself to push records the way she has. It all comes across as a ridiculously cynical argument for his relevance, right down to regurgitating stuff from his glory years.
Crazy stuff like raping Iggy Azalea obviously.
Crazy stuff like raping Iggy Azalea obviously.
How did this gem of a post go unnoticed?
Can Crusher
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It's a song. When they talk about killing people nobody bats an eye.
Jest Chillin
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It's not rewriting the narrative at all. It's pointing out the difference between saying a line that's offensive versus writing an entire song about that offensive thing. They're both bad but there's no need to exaggerate the offense.
So you must've missed that El P, Yelawolf, and Macklemore have all been big in the last few years. Yela is even signed to Shady Records.
There's a gulf of a difference between pointing out what was actually done and excusing it, so don't lump me in the latter category.
Because it's not a very good post? Plenty of rap artists, including the one we're actually discussing, aren't kids. And a large part of the listening demographic aren't kids.
theignoramus
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Please. He hasnt put out a classic album since the Eminem Show. I think he probably knows this his own damn self. He's Jay/Nas tier now, putting out serviceable to good content that doesnt touch the shit he released in his prime.
Jest Chillin
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Most artists never put out a classic album. I'm not sure how that somehow means that he's irrelevant. I also don't see how it has anything to do with what I posted.
RickGhastly
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El P and Yelawolf have nowhere near the same kind of market penetration of Iggy. First graders know who Iggy is. Macklemore is definitely an exception, but Macklemore's also played humble in the rap game so hard that it's nearly become a joke. You can't take down anyone who'd in all probability fire back with "yeah man, you're right".
It'd also be a completely different track if he talked about raping Macklemore, but that's another thing entirely.
Could you define big? These two are not big saleswise/grossingwise at all.
At which point do you think it crosses the line from being just a song to an actual threat?
If I say I'm going to shoot up a school full of children to the tune of Old MacDonald then does that make it okay?
theignoramus
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You acting like he's still at the forefront of the game and putting out content that has to be heard. Most of his shit the last 8 years, you could skip and you wouldnt miss out on much. The last relevant thing he released was Bad Meets Evil, though it was Royce, not Em, that made that album worth hearing.
Put your bias aside and be rational, would you? We are actually hearing a lot about a song of a álbum that didn't even come out, we are even discussiong it in a video-game fórum. How relevant is that to you?
Most of his recent song are average/bad, but you can't deny that the guys is still relevant. He sold more álbums than any hiphop artist last year, remember that. Quality =/= relevancy.
SlipperyMoose
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People reacting to this make me laugh. It's like they will never learn. This will blow over so fast.
TOP SHOTTA
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I know that in this thread people will tend to be really divided, but I have never, ever liked Eminem. Not one single song, ever. He came out when I was in college, and truth be told.... back then.... before he busted out big and got with Dr. Dre, I thought his peer group consisted of Insane Clown Posse, Slipknot, Eminem. I know I am wrong about that, but I didn't always know he was such a good lyricist - which I do notice about him. I am a huge hip hop fan, by the way. Slim Shady came out when I was in college and with almost a fully functioning brain and the same person that would listen to Eminem would listen to ICP - I absolutely knew these people. Back then, at least in my school and before th Dr. Dre days, the extreme content made people think that about him. Now, I realize that Eminem has gone on to gain the respect of lots of people and has made much more of himself than I expected. But I never, ever have liked a single Eminem song, ever.
theignoramus
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I mean, thats why I said he was Jay-Z tier. They can still move units on the strength of their brand, quality notwithstanding.
CadetMahoney
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I don't see much coming out of it.
Reminds me of people getting shocked about banging prostitutes and killing them in GTA. It is what it is. This is his shtick. He's said similar things in the past and always gains notoriety for it. He's still doing it at 42. Move along
What's interesting about iggy is that she rarely slings back hard and instead tries to take the high ground like with that snoop dogg fiasco. The rap community has always made dis tracks and go yo momma on each other. It's almost like going to a roast on yourself and trying to make people feel bad about the jokes being told. Not to say she should just endure verbal abuse but it's pretty interesting see this having grown up in the 90s after rap picked up steam. I've grown to expect dis shock slings from rappers to each other
What's interesting about iggy is that she rarely slings back hard and instead tries to take the high ground like with that snoop dogg fiasco. The rap community has always made dis tracks and go yo momma on each other. It's almost like going to a roast on yourself and trying to make people feel bad about the jokes being told. Not to say she should just endure verbal abuse but it's pretty interesting see this having grown up in the 90s after rap picked up steam. I've grown to expect dis shock slings from rappers to each other
Jest Chillin
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The idea that the only reason he's mentioning Iggy is because she's White and a Popular Rap artist is beyond a stretch. People have big upped RTJ and RTJ2 is being talked about in AOTY conversations and Yela had a lot of spins off Trunk Muzik. Along with Macklemore, these would be the people that you could make that argument with if he went at them with disparaging lyrics.
Iggy is mentioned here because he finds her attractive and wanted to state that in an offensive and shocking way. He's done the same with Rihanna and Nicki Minaj.
Popularity/mentions in Hip Hop. There's no reason for Em to be jealous of another White rap artist due to sales because none of them come close to him. Iggy's sold a little over 400k. MMLP2 sold 2.2 Million. So the only logical approach to Em feeling threatened would be in reputation or spotlight.
That's not at all what I was saying. You should probably read back further into the conversation to understand the context. I was replying to someone who was saying was "desperate for attention" (which isn't true because he sells millions regardless) or is stale creatively because he uses shock raps. That's not the case.
theignoramus
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He is stale creatively these days. Not back in the early 2000s, when he was high out of his mind and dealing with adversity at every turn, but in 2014, I would argue that yes, he is, if we're comparing him to his younger self. If you want to be disingenuous and compare his stuff to Drake or Lil Wayne, I guess you could say he's still creative, but compared to prime Eminem? His shit is stale.
I don't think this is the case. My theories to justify this are:
1) Label's pressuring them to create a commotion so both can gain from the controversy.
2) He simply doesn't like her and as she is the famous pop/fakelike girld of the moment he decided to bully her just for the sake of bullying. I mean, he Still Don't Give a Fuck.
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
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Remember when "download her audio on mp3" was some sort of threat?
But that goes without saying; El-P and Yelawolf aren't making popjams. Iggy's entire album is a popjam, easily consumable and marketable to people who still rely on the radio to tell them what music is good.
There are 2 dozen labels that are pumping out more meaningful, interesting, credible music than DefJam, but DefJam assures that whoever's signed with them will have their song, no matter how bad, played on the radio 15 times a day for 3 weeks. It's why the music industry is garbage.
It hasn't been about quality for 20 years. You have people getting all excited about "The Kendrick verse" when people have been going harder than that for years by default. But those songs aren't marketable. You can't sell that to kids. You can't tie that to movie soundtracks and trailer backgrounds.
So Eminem will continue sampling shit like "the sounds of the season". Because it's catchy.
Pop music.
Broder Salsa
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Not even a GAFer would take a shit in their car while receiving fellatio. What a mess.
But if they did, would you think they were edgy and cool?
He was rapping that part in Nicki Minaj's flow. I thought that's what made it creative.
depths20XX
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Eminem is a goof
Jest Chillin
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I don't get what you're saying here. Or I should say, I think I know what you're saying but the way you're saying it doesn't make it clear.
Creatively, Em has branched out far more in his recent years than he did in his early years. His creativity isn't stagnant. His style may be stale, depending on personal taste, but the reality is that's going to be true of any hip hop artist who is around as long as he is because hip hop fans don't tend to appreciate big changes in style. Kanye gets trashed for it for example.
I don't think it's the case either. I was just speaking from what I think the mindset would be of a person who is assuming the name drop was born out of jealousy.
Yeah, this.
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