jarrod said:psycho_snake said:I cant wait until PSP passes NDS in sales and see this whole board explode.
See you in 2006.
DarienA said:Is this true? I thought the last thread on this topic showed that RE numbers were already taking a dive on the PS2....
duckroll said:duckroll's Nintend00m Photoshop Series #3: Two guys, a bomba and a touchscreen game
Of course the GBA hurts the sales of the DS and PSP. And the DS hurts the sales of the GBA and PSP (or would if it wasn't in such low supply). And the PSP hurts the sales of the GBA and DS.BlackSalad said:do you think the GBA SP is hurting the DS's sales? Competition between nintendo handhelds!
Some people would prefer to get a version that they presume will offer extra features.nitewulf said:But what about Gamecube owners themselves, are they also waiting for the PS2 port of RE4? Does that make any sense to *anyone*?
nitewulf said:Anyway, with regards to RE4, so let's say PS2 owners and RE fans held off from buying Gamecubes and RE4s due to the announcement of RE4 being ported to the PS2. But what about Gamecube owners themselves, are they also waiting for the PS2 port of RE4? Does that make any sense to *anyone*?
human5892 said:I think there are a few others, but they've learned to keep their beliefs hidden in the silence of shame.
BlackSalad said:do you think the GBA SP is hurting the DS's sales? Competition between nintendo handhelds!
koam said:Big GBA release (or so it seems) and people go off to buy gbas to play it instead of DSes. weird.
Sure. But since GBA is still an option, the subset of people who could afford the DS but don't care about its exclusive games/features or would prefer to do GBA multiplayer, could be considered DS's lost sales to GBA.Deg said:DS is a GBA playable system.
jarrod said:See you in 2006.
And ducky, that last photoshop was great. :lol
nitewulf said:But what about Gamecube owners themselves, are they also waiting for the PS2 port of RE4? Does that make any sense to *anyone*?
Right hand, dude.Monk said:Is that specific bomba bomb related to nintendo? I am missing something here.
Amir0x said:Do we have totals for DS and PSP in Japan in 2005?
It's possible, but then when supply ramps up demand may just level out as well. PSP's still enjoying an extended launch push thanks to it's miniscule supplies, I'm not sure you can expect sales to just shoot up once supply builds. If DS was following the same supply trend PSP has, it's sales would be identical right now.sonycowboy said:IMO, it will happen before then. Right now the PSP is completely supply constrained and once they are readily available, you might see som spectacular sales. As always, the software will have to be there to support it.
kaching said:Enterbrain 1/2/05-2/6/05
DS: 314000
PSP: 300000
Media Create 1/2/05-1/30/2005 (#'s for last wk not available yet)
DS: 249922
PSP: 267602
Official numbers from either Ebrain or MC will probably differ for 05 to date since these are just tallies based on weekly numbers posted, starting with first full week of 05.
ferricide said:
jarrod said:It's possible, but then when supply ramps up demand may just level out as well. PSP's still enjoying an extended launch push thanks to it's miniscule supplies, I'm not sure you can expect sales to just shoot up once supply builds. If DS was following the same supply trend PSP has, it's sales would be identical right now.
In the short term too (at least for Japan) I think DS will have the advantage in high profile software releases. This year all PSP really has is GT4mobile, while DS boasts Mario Kart, FF3, Rockman.EXE and maybe even Pokemon DP. PSP will come around in 2006 (with FFVIICC leading the way) but right now it's seems DS is benefitting from shorter development cycles, mobile crossover and smaller scale resource demands. PSP won't pull ahead in Japan until FFVIICC releases imo, which won't be until spring 2006 most likely.
:lol :lolJackFrost2012 said:
The series took a slight dive on the PS1 with RE3. Yet that still sold millions. It's all been downhill from there. I'm not buying that it "stabalized" on the PS2/GC. Putting the series on the Gamecube was just as stupid-if not more-than putting it on the Dreamcast. I'd imagine Code Veronica's DC sales are about the same as that of either REmake or RE0. I feel bad for the people who worked on RE4 as they'll have to watch their game seriously underperform on Gamecube. With only Nintendo and Capcom to blame.It's dive started on PSone, then it plummeted on Dreamcast, then stablizied on PS2/GC. Par for the course really considering how RE was mired in formula, same thing happened with Street Fighter in the 32bit generation.
DCharlie said:The DS was launched 10 days (?) before the PSP... even if the DS dropped to zero sales a week for four weeks , at the current rate sony STILL wouldn't catch up so i don't see how you can say the fact that the DS is ahead is down to the extra week and a bit they've had.
Sony are still promising 1 million units a month, with "800k units sold" (as of Jan 21st) which is basically absolute bullshit. If they had lauched with 1 million units, they would have sold them all... but they didn't (not Nintendo's problem) because Kutaragi wanted to balance risk with inventory (does *anyone* actually believe that???)
4. Bioharzard 4 - GC - 29,000 (174k)
You'd think it would've at least put up RE0, Naruto 2-3 or Symphonia numbers then. Big exclusive 3rd party games can usually expect 350-450k on GameCube in Japan, what exactly made RE4 diferent from those? RE4 is underperforming even *for* GameCube, there's pretty clearly some other factor at play here than just the platform. I bet sales would've doubled if Capcom had waited until now to announce the PS2 port. I expect the same to happen in all markets really.Insertia said:I can't believe the consensus of why RE4 bombed is because it was annouced for PS2. :lol :lol
It bombed because it's on Gamecube.
RE3 sold about 2 million less than it's predecessor, it's actually the 2nd sharpest decline the series ever had (the drop to CV was slightly more then). Then things seemed to stabilize on GC/PS2, all the games selling about on par. Just look at the sales yourself, GC was definitely not a worse choice then Dreamcast, especially given the nature of the first 2 GC titles (a PSone remake and a N64 upgrade, released within 6 months of each other). I doubt they'd have performed much better on PS2 in all honestly, probably 500k more at best. And notice how big PS2 games like Onimusha/DMC have fallen as well.Juno said:The series took a slight dive on the PS1 with RE3. Yet that still sold millions. It's all been downhill from there. I'm not buying that it "stabalized" on the PS2/GC. Putting the series on the Gamecube was just as stupid-if not more-than putting it on the Dreamcast. I'd imagine Code Veronica's DC sales are about the same as that of either REmake or RE0. I feel bad for the people who worked on RE4 as they'll have to watch their game seriously underperform on Gamecube. With only Nintendo and Capcom to blame.
jarrod said:RE3 sold about 2 million less than it's predecessor, it's actually the 2nd sharpest decline the series ever had (the drop to CV was slightly more then). Then things seemed to stabilize on GC/PS2, all the games selling about on par. Just look at the sales yourself, GC was definitely not a worse choice then Dreamcast, especially given the nature of the first 2 GC titles (a PSone remake and a N64 upgrade within 6 months of each other). I doubt they'd have much better on PS2 in all honestly, probably 500k more at best.
Well, every RE since part 2 has been mired in "antiquated" design really. Would you agree it's also unfair basing GameCube potential off a PSone remake and N64 portover released within a 6 month stretch?sonycowboy said:Jarrod, you've done this listing before, but I think trying to use the 3rd and 4th iteration of a game on a console, when that games design was antiquated is an unfair comparison.
Actually, I thought GT1 had outsold GT3 too? What are the totals?sonycowboy said:Look at GT3 on the PS2. It sold way more than it's predecessors, because it had pent up demand on a new system that could really show off the title. And it was an excellent game to boot. If you look at most sequels that made it to this next generation, they've been inferior to their predecessors in some way.
Oh I'd agree, my original point was that RE's decline was inevitable so long as the series stuck to it's 32bit design. Same as what happened to Street Fighter last generation.sonycowboy said:You simply have to assume the likelyhood that a 3rd and 4th iteration will naturally lose steam on a system and that the quality of the game makes a difference.
I agree, though it's worth noting RE0 debuted with 190k (which isn't far off from REO and was also what RECVX PS2 started with). Also worth noting REO File #2 saw a pretty substantial drop (1st week was 90k, which is actually the lowest 1st week for any RE).SolidSnakex said:I think there's a pretty good possiblity that RE4's first week sales on the PS2 will outdo what the game has sold on the GC up to that point. It seems especially likely with a game like REOutbreak debuting with 200k (higher than any GC RE debut).
jarrod said:Actually, I thought GT1 had outsold GT3 too? What are the totals?
What good would that do when looking at platform performance though. Should I also combine RE1, RE1 DC and RE1 Remake?Izzy said:Jarrod, you should use combined PS2 + DC worldwide sales for RE:CV in your list.
sonycowboy said:I only have US numbers, but
· North American sales
Gran Turismo (May 1998 release): More than 3.8 million;
Gran Turismo 2 (December 1999 release): More than 3.5 million;
Gran Turismo 3 A-spec (July 2001 release): Nearly 5 million (Includes GT3 Racing Pack)
jarrod said:What good would that do when looking at platform performance though. Should I also combine RE1, RE1 DC and RE1 Remake?
jarrod said:Here's JP figures...
Gran Turismo: 2.6M
Gran Turismo 2: 1.8M
Gran Turismo 3 A-spec: 1.4M
I think they're Famitsu... I remember hearing GT2 sold about 9M worldwide and GT3 about 12M. I dunno about GT1 though, GT3 might very well be the best selling in the series.
Well, here goes...Izzy said:I love your lists, and I think single platform numbers should be left as they are.
But, for some games like RE:CV and RE4, in addition to single platform numbers, you could make 'an all platform total '.
Well seems GT3 is not only the best selling GT game but also the best selling PS2 game period. Think any of the GTAs will ever pass it?sonycowboy said:I updated the numbers above using the latest preview I could find.
jarrod said:Well seems GT3 is not only the best selling GT game but also the best selling PS2 game period. Think any of the GTAs will ever pass it?