http://www.reuters.com/article/us-europe-turkey-idUSKCN0Z82DA
I'd wonder how such a vote would turn out.
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Erdogan wants referendum on EU membership
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http://www.reuters.com/article/us-europe-turkey-idUSKCN0Z82DA
I'd wonder how such a vote would turn out.
Heavy's Sandvich
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Europe doesn't want Turkey more like.
Monty Mole
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Nonsense. It's mostly about the fact that Turkey borders on Iraq and Syria, and Turkey becoming an EU member would put the EU on the borders of those conflict nations, which none of the existing EU members want.
Or should I say, that's why the public don't want to see Turkey join. There's a whole host of other reasons including economy, ethics, crime rate etc too.
Broken Joystick
At least you can talk. Who are you?
#Erexit
sechsterangriff
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Nice try Erdogan, but it was never about that.
It had more to do with human rights, separatists issues and conflict near your borders than anything else.
Now you can add to those issues your own presidency.
It had more to do with human rights, separatists issues and conflict near your borders than anything else.
Now you can add to those issues your own presidency.
ClosingADoor
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OK... and why should we care about this, Mr. Erdogan? Go have your vote. We don't control your country, do as the people there want.
Bots are better than you
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Please ... #Exidogan
I don't know, I have some serious question marks with the entirety of Turkish leadership, not just Erdogan. There are some serious Human Rights issues that need to be addressed before we can consider a EU membership of Turkey at this moment.
Also, I don't think EU Membership can even be on the table until the Armenian Genocide is officially recognized by Turkey.
I agree, not only Erdogan, but he is the face (right or wrong) of everything that is wrong in Turkey.
Got to love him though, he keeps stirring shit up just to piss off EU leaders and citizens.
There is also the small matter of them not acknowledging Cyprus and Greece not liking them.
Spring Drive
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I'd rather not share a boundary with Syria and Iraq
Stiflers Mom
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While I generally don't see any reason for Turkey not to join the EU, I think it would be wrong to have them join in these times.
* The EU as it stands cannot even function properly with its existing members. there is already a huge political rift between its eastern states (Poland, Chzech Republic and Hungary) and the western states.
* Turkey under Erdogan is as far from European values as it could be
* War in Syria and Irak
* The missing acceptance of the fact that there was a genocide against the Armenians
It will take a long time to sort these things out.
Until then, I don't want Turkey in the EU
* The EU as it stands cannot even function properly with its existing members. there is already a huge political rift between its eastern states (Poland, Chzech Republic and Hungary) and the western states.
* Turkey under Erdogan is as far from European values as it could be
* War in Syria and Irak
* The missing acceptance of the fact that there was a genocide against the Armenians
It will take a long time to sort these things out.
Until then, I don't want Turkey in the EU
Stereogatari
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Vast majority of Turks would vote no. Even the majority of people from the opposition demographic.
I don't like Erdogan, but I like that he winds Europeans up.
What difference would it make?
I don't like Erdogan, but I like that he winds Europeans up.
What difference would it make?
runningjoke
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The way our politicians are sucking up to Erdogan I'll probably end up in jail for criticizing him when Turkey becomes part of the EU
paradise_circus
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Scientists baflled by man's indredible ability to fuck up every time.
michaelius
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After France and Germany rigged voting system to favor them most and trample over smaller EU countries will it would be huge problem for them if Turkey joined EU since with 80 millions strong population they would have huge saying in all EU matters.
Stereogatari
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A wild idiot appears...
ClosingADoor
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What exactly is rigged? The EU Commission gets 1 person from each country, no matter the size. The Parliament is by population.
Miles Quaritch
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He left it a little late to be honest.
Iraq ok but EU rejected Turkey back when they were doing well on most fronts, better than other nations that did got to enter the EU. He is not wrong that back then they probably got rejected because of being a Muslim majority country.
ClosingADoor
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They can't. There is a lengthy list of stuff to get through before they can become an actual candidate first. After that all member states have to approve and every one of them can veto it, including Greece and Cyprus.
Or because they didn't comply with even half of the requirements set out to become a member state.
One out of 35 chapters have been checked off: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accession_of_Turkey_to_the_European_Union#Negotiation_progress
That's a very, very long way to go.
Stereogatari
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Turkey has never in a good shape to get into EU. In fact it's probably in a better shape NOW than it was before Erdogan and AKP.
The whitewashing of Turkish history needs to stop. Just because it wasn't religious Muslims in power before doesn't mean it was good times.
It's simply to keep his voterbase aroused and to troll Europe. And it works.
SymbiantXenos
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#Turkin
FootballFan
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No...now, now it ends.
Miles Quaritch
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This is what annoys me when people proudly spout their ignorance about how Turkey will be in the EU in 5-10 years.
I'm left wondering how the fuck they can be so confident in saying that when they don't even the country didn't meet the criteria in the past and the country has only gotten less democratic since then...
Miles Quaritch
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Huh?
Thornton Reed
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as if greece and cyprus wouldn't veto turkey joining.
ClosingADoor
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If people were truly afraid of Turkey and that it is "taking over Europe" or some shit, they should actually be happy that negotiations are happening with them, because that is forcing them to become better.
I don't want Turkey in also for the foreseeable future, until we sorted the current economical situation in the EU out and Eastern and Southern Europe are on par with the rest. But if Turkey at that point is a society that complies with everything the EU wants, then I don't really see a big problem. And that is probably going to take over 50 years anyway.
Stereogatari
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Ahhh in that case yes I agree. There was much more hope back then from a neutral perspective.
But the staunchly Secular/Kemalist demographic of Turkey always distrusted him even back when he was in his sheep's clothing.
In parliament, they get the most MEPs because they have the largest populations. In fact, one could argue that they have proportionally less representation than the smallest members, since the minimum number of MEPs per country is 6. For instance, Germany, with a population of around 81 million, gets just under 100 MEPs, while the least populous can get 6 MEPs with a population of around 500k.
In the council, all countries have equal representation, because every member state sends their head of government, and similarly for the various councils of ministers. The president of the commission is elected by the parliament along European political blocs, and the current president is from one of the smallest EU member states (both in terms of land mass and population). Commissioners are distributed more or less evenly between the member states, and there's no guarantee the most important commissions will go to the largest member states.
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