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Eurogamer - Black & White 2 review

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6 out of 10, and even then it seems a stretch that it scored so highly.

http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=61124

Talking of broken, it's time to talk about the combat. Running with the Good/Evil theme, your behaviour defines your alignment, and hence the way you play. Needlessly kill your people, and you're a mean god. Look after them well, and don't drop rocks on their houses, and you're lovely. This also extends to how you go about taking over each island. The angel imp insists that there's no need to go to war, the demon encouraging such violent behaviour enthusiastically. Create an army, and you can march them off to a neutral or enemy town, fight the locals if necessary, and then surround the central hub and take it over. This process is supposed to speed up when there are more men in your army, and when the town's defences are weaker. No evidence of this was apparent. In fact, when one platoon of 75 was reduced to a single solitary soldier by the enemy's Creature, the process continued at the same pace. Enemy platoons appear to work like those battery-driven toy cars you used to get that drove until they hit a wall, turned, and drove off in another direction. Should they stumble upon your army, they might fight it, or they might run about in confused circles. Should there happen to be something so enormously complex as a wall between your army and theirs, then they'll stand there, staring, dreaming crazy AI dreams of what must be on the other side.
 
Ouch. Thinking about cancelling pre-order.
It got 7 at Edge as well(admitly, that's a pretty good score with Edge but nothing special, which is what I want).
Hmm...
 
You gotta be kidding me ?!?!

Beginning at the beginning. Black & White 2 claimed it would not repeat the nightmarish obligatory tutorial of the original. And indeed, at the very beginning you are offered the opportunity to skip the basic movement instructions, should you have remembered them from before. However, if you fancy a refresher, then nothing has changed - rather than briefly explaining that right clicking the ground grabs it, and then moving the mouse pulls you in that direction, it instead forces you to sit through an agonisingly idiotic step-by-step guide, requiring that you learn not only how to move to the left, but also, wait for it, how to move to the right. Anyone who would need such ludicrously slow and patronising guidance would not have been able to manoeuvre the disc into the drive to install the game, let alone put their own trousers on.
 
That bit about the AI sucks but the tutorial is necessary because most of the people who bought B&W were non-gamers (as IGN pointed out in their review).


Least you can skip it.
 
http://www.ga-forum.com/showthread.php?t=65096&highlight=black+white <-- 23 replies for a positive review of the game. Now watch this thread get 4758594 as all the retarded Molyneux haters chime in. And make no mistake haters, you're all retarded. The guy makes ONE bad game, and somehow you've all forgotten about the great games he made beforehand. What the fuck? And the guy didn't trick you into buying the piece of shit, the reviewers fucked you over for not actually playing the fucking game they were reviewing. Also, Fable was a good game. No really, it was. Not "best rpg ever" great, but if you thought it would be you are, yes that's right, a fucking retard. :lol
 
This review = no buy from me.

This sounds worse than the original B&W, which I found infuriating at best. I can think of better games to spend my cash on.
 
Optimistic said:
http://www.ga-forum.com/showthread.php?t=65096&highlight=black+white <-- 23 replies for a positive review of the game. Now watch this thread get 4758594 as all the retarded Molyneux haters chime in. And make no mistake haters, you're all retarded. The guy makes ONE bad game, and somehow you've all forgotten about the great games he made beforehand. What the fuck? And the guy didn't trick you into buying the piece of shit, the reviewers fucked you over for not actually playing the fucking game they were reviewing. Also, Fable was a good game. No really, it was. Not "best rpg ever" great, but if you thought it would be you are, yes that's right, a fucking retard. :lol

Hang on, what ? So the fact that I loved Syndicate, Theme Hospital, Populous et al, means I am not qualified to commend on his current work ?

Sorry, but Molyneux has dropped the ball 2 out of 3 times recently (B&W, B&W2, Fable)
 
Dude, my post was clearly a generalisation. It wasn't aimed at anyone in particular, but the fact is every thread related to Peter Molyneux gets derailed by the same people whinging about how he's a no good developer who hypes his games up and doesn't deliver. It's boring, it's tedious, it's inaccurate, and it's been done to death. I mean really, and this is another generalisation (not aimed at you!), get over it. So you blew $40US on a game half a decade ago that turned out to be a pile of shit. WHO CARES!? I, and I'm sure many others, are sick to fucking death of hearing about it.

I should also add, if you're a Molyneux hater and haven't played "Syndicate, Theme Hospital, Populous et al", then stop whinging about how terrible he is.
 
Optimistic said:
http://www.ga-forum.com/showthread.php?t=65096&highlight=black+white <-- 23 replies for a positive review of the game. Now watch this thread get 4758594 as all the retarded Molyneux haters chime in. And make no mistake haters, you're all retarded. The guy makes ONE bad game, and somehow you've all forgotten about the great games he made beforehand. What the fuck? And the guy didn't trick you into buying the piece of shit, the reviewers fucked you over for not actually playing the fucking game they were reviewing. Also, Fable was a good game. No really, it was. Not "best rpg ever" great, but if you thought it would be you are, yes that's right, a fucking retard. :lol


Little early for the damage control post.
 
7/10 from GamesTM

Burnout Revenge - 9
F.E.A.R. - 8
Castlevania: DOS - 8
Sniper Elite - 8
Geist - 4
Burnout Legends - 9
Beat Down: Fists of Vengeance - 3
Far Cry Instincts - 7
Mortal Kombat: Shaolin Monks - 5
LA Rush - 5
NHL 06 - 8
Black And White 2 - 7
Ossu! Tatakae! Ouendan - 8
FIFA 06 - 6
Resident Evil Outbreak File #2 - 5
Conflict: Global Storm - 7
Graffiti Kingdom - 6
Total Overdose - 6
Nintendogs - 7
Spartan: Total Warrior - 7
Without Warning - 3
 
Ghost said:
Little early for the damage control post.

Damage control? :lol I'm not at all interested in the game. I won't be buying it, won't be playing it, and won't be downloading the demo. I don't have an agenda, I'm just sick of seeing retards trash threads because of a bad game they bought years ago.
 
Damage control? I'm not at all interested in the game. I won't be buying it, won't be playing it, and won't be downloading the demo. I don't have an agenda, I'm just sick of seeing retards trash threads because of a bad game they bought years ago.

Dude..you ARE the retard who trashed this thread.
 
It's easy to hate Molyneux, because he's an idol, like Cliffy-B-Boy or Hideo, Carmack whatever. He's in our spotlight, so we have someone to poke fun at when we feel like it. It's easier than poking fun at whoever made the new Tony Hawk, or EA Game Version 2K6

It's the same with movies, all these fallen actors, directors. You cannot escape it. If you are famous in any way, and your shit starts to stink in any form, then the internet, the home of poorly formed anonymous opinions isn't going to be love and roses.
 
There will be a non-critical patch ready offering the following;

* Skip the tutorial for those who really want to.
* Make the RTS element much more interesting.

You can read more about that patch and the release date here.
 
SamVT said:
There will be a non-critical patch ready offering the following;

* Skip the tutorial for those who really want to.
* Make the RTS element much more interesting.

You can read more about that patch and the release date here.

Wouldn't it be a lot better if those issues were dealt with before they gold-slabbed the game? I sense B&W1 issues coming up.. I'll probably try out the demo before buying the game. Also, I had quite a bit of fun with the first game, but it kinda got boring fast. We'll see what this one does.
 
Not interested in the game, but seriously .. don't link to eurogamer reviews and pretend like they know what they're talking about. It's not the same site it was in 2001 or 2002, read some of their other reviews, read their news coverage; fucken atrocious.
 
dicklaurent said:
Not interested in the game, but seriously .. don't link to eurogamer reviews and pretend like they know what they're talking about. It's not the same site it was in 2001 or 2002, read some of their other reviews, read their news coverage; fucken atrocious.


This is true.
 
Another Molyneux classic!
Not.

That being said I am in love with Fable PC. What an amazing and fun experience. It's like a Zelda game on my PC!

Beautiful graphics and music on one hand and *tiny* Xbox maps on the other.

Back to Fable... I'm right before fighting Maze on the Hook Coast, what a great experience this game is...
 
There isn't anything on earth that could keep me from buying this game, regardless of any review score. As much as people bitch about Peter's games, I've always extracted loads of ideas, enjoyed some trademark humor, and explored heretofore unseen mechanics.

His are games to be studied for what is done right and what is novel, not for what is missing or slightly flawed.

All of that said, I'm pleased there will be a patch.
 
I'd still possibly pick this up at some point if it weren't published by EA. Fuck those guys.

It seems like from all the reviews I've read the game is heavily dumbed down. The first game was mainly played by non-gamers, so they're appealing to them even moreso now. Meh.
 
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