There are a few massive PC games that could easily slot into the top two (Minecraft and Team Fortress 2, off the top of my head), but probably won't. My money is on Dark Souls, and one of the Super Mario Galaxy games is a given since I don't think Christian Donlan has done a write-up yet.
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Eurogamer's Games of the Generation
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There are a few massive PC games that could easily slot into the top two (Minecraft and Team Fortress 2, off the top of my head), but probably won't. My money is on Dark Souls, and one of the Super Mario Galaxy games is a given since I don't think Christian Donlan has done a write-up yet.
Fallout 3 was first. Fallout 3 was more successful, thus having a larger impact (hell, there would be no New Vegas if Falliut 3 was a failure). Fallout 3 had a more interesting world.
Kocolino67
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I don't like definite lists, but Portal, RDR and Fallout 3 are very good games. This morning I bought Spelunky and TLoU is hopefully a game, which I can play somewhere somehow in the future.
Hence, not a bad list, but there is so much more. I personally would put Battlefield 1942 on this list.
Hence, not a bad list, but there is so much more. I personally would put Battlefield 1942 on this list.
So I'm not the only one after all!
Great list overall, not what I would have personally picked but all of those games have had a huge impact.
Is this for real? There's no difficulty in Protal, the pules are piss easy.
silver.tongue
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Great list overall.
Is it done? I think Gears should have made it, not because it is superb or anything like that, but because it re-shaped the TPS genre for a whole gen.
Or you could say that was done by RE4. In that case, Gears could be out.
Is it done? I think Gears should have made it, not because it is superb or anything like that, but because it re-shaped the TPS genre for a whole gen.
Or you could say that was done by RE4. In that case, Gears could be out.
The floodgate opener of its genre.
I interpreted it as meaning it received both popular and critical acclaim. The example in music would be The Beatles.
Two more to come. That said, I've put my predictions for them on the previous page, and Gears isn't one of them.
Not done yet, and I suspect SMG may well take one of the remaining slots (and one of the Souls titles the other). I'm stuck mentally on a two out of three of SMG, DS and Minecraft to fill the remaining slots, and I keep going back and forth on which one is likely to miss out.
ViewtifulJC
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Imp the Dimp
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And it was way, WAY worse a game. Is this list about the most influential or best games?
JehutyRunner
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CecilRousso
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So far a very good selection of games. Spelunky is pure brilliance.
curlyfriski
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Liked the Dark Souls write-up. I was sure Galaxy would be in there at some point but top spot?! I don't know... Doubt it'll be Uncharted 2, they already had one Naughty Dog game and there's been a bit of an Uncharted backlash in the last couple of years. #1 will either be Galaxy or something out of left field.
DoubleTake
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Really surprised Bioshock hasnt made it on this list
I don't envy them trying to publish a list of the best games, there's over 1000 titles just on the 360 alone. Really don't agree with Journey being there to be honest now that I've had a chance to try it, SF4 is a surprise excellent pick. Fallout 3 was impressive in scope but I personally found it lacked character and quickly traded it in.
I made an unordered list of 20 games that I really enjoyed this generation, just things I actually paid for, and played through to the end in all but one case.
http://blog.system11.org/?p=434
I made an unordered list of 20 games that I really enjoyed this generation, just things I actually paid for, and played through to the end in all but one case.
http://blog.system11.org/?p=434
PaulExcellent
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Portal.
Sadly, Bioshock 1 isn't in this list. :/
Sadly, Bioshock 1 isn't in this list. :/
CecilRousso
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There's already to much focus on pure action games on the list as it is.
Games of the generation eh...?
Pokemon?
I always hate seeing these threads though. Just shows that it's unlikely I'll ever find a game website I can go to for articles.
Inevitable really with such a long generation. There's not a single site I agree with consistently, EG reviews in isolation are some of the ones I agree with least though.
It's not so much about agreeing or disagreeing, just the writing quality and how consistent these lists all seem to be. The problem with the game writing industry isn't about whether or not people like or dislike certain games, it's that almost none of them can write coherently and consistently as to why they like them. It's creepy how much backdoor fellatio must be occurring in order for so many games to be so consistently in these lists.
JehutyRunner
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One more game tomorrow. They said they're going to publish the entire top 50 that was voted upon, though. From yesterday onwards, though, it's the top three. So...
Third - Spelunky
Second - Dark Souls
First - ???
toastyToast
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Saving the B
est for last
ayonetta
GhostWriter24
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No Uncharted 2?
Not impossible for it to be added, but I suspect it got usurped by TLOU.
CecilRousso
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Boring choice? Should they have selected another indie game then Spelunky just for the sake of it?
Magic Mushroom
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It has to be Mario Galaxy, a game with more creativity and ideas in one hour than most games muster in their entirety.
Poor review of Dark Souls. Not sure why they didn't get Rich Stanton to do it rather than somebody who confesses to being less than half-way through. Oh but it has some New Games Journalism personal anecdotes in so what need of actual insight eh?
My prediction for the #1 is Minecraft.
Cyrano:
Agreed completely. You can predict pretty accurately what these lists will feature, including the (small) variations between each site. One part of me thinks it is writing to your target market (in the same way you can easily predict the slant each newspaper will put on the same events), but the larger part agrees with you that there is not actually the critical faculties to make proper judgments, and so these reviewers' actual opinions all creepily cohere in a mutually reinforcing cycle.
A good illustration of both points is Eurogamer's recent ocarina retrospective. The genesis of the piece starts from the truism that Ocarina is, and always will be, the best of all time and just goes to town with literally meaningless (seriously, read it) homilies to its unquestionable greatness. There is no analysis in there whatsoever.
My prediction for the #1 is Minecraft.
Cyrano:
Agreed completely. You can predict pretty accurately what these lists will feature, including the (small) variations between each site. One part of me thinks it is writing to your target market (in the same way you can easily predict the slant each newspaper will put on the same events), but the larger part agrees with you that there is not actually the critical faculties to make proper judgments, and so these reviewers' actual opinions all creepily cohere in a mutually reinforcing cycle.
A good illustration of both points is Eurogamer's recent ocarina retrospective. The genesis of the piece starts from the truism that Ocarina is, and always will be, the best of all time and just goes to town with literally meaningless (seriously, read it) homilies to its unquestionable greatness. There is no analysis in there whatsoever.
Has to be.
Well, it's not a review, as such, is it? It's an opinion piece looking to reflect the feel of the game and why it's special. And, let's be honest, the importance and impact of failure in the game - and the associated difficulty - is a significant component of the appeal of it.
I was actually expecting a Souls game to take the top spot, so I'm a little surprised it's #2. Well, unless Demon's Souls is #1, but I doubt that. I can only see it being Minecraft or SMG for the last one; for me, SMG would take it.
That's a fair point - I suppose its a matter of expectations. It's not a review in the sense we usually use the term in gaming, but it's still a review in that they are justifying why their staff considers the game the second best of the generation. Just seemed very thin for a game which is perhaps especially ripe for analysis.
My view is that this review much better reflects Galaxy's value than the great mass of 97% reviews, but that could take this thread in a different direction...
Plinko
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Rogue Legacy is infinitely more enjoyable.
Magic Mushroom
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That's one of the worst reviews I ever tried to read. Less is more, especially when writing. But he goes on and on and on. What a bloated mess. It's the AC3 of game reviews. It also uses the words 'soul cancer'. I rest my case.
You are looking at the style, not the substance. It's clear why you're so keen on Galaxy
catashtrophe
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Should have been Demons Souls
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Much as I'm a fan of Tim's rants, they are oftentimes a bit too rant-y for my tastes. They feel like the travel section of videogames mixed with twenty or so years of bitterness. I like reading them, but they're also reads, and it's hard for me to sit down and escape my own hallucinations about games. Sort of a, "actual conversations about design are hard, ya know?" Tim plays it off all very jovially and I love him for that, but I do find myself distracted by his wordiness at times. Or maybe, thinking about things that aren't games (which might actually be a better way to write about games in the first place).
I suppose what I would really like to read are the stories of a writer playing a game, and I get some of that from a variety of writers; I just feel that it's not really a consistent thing from any of them. Though maybe that speaks to how poor most games are, as I think being able to tell a story from an experience is a result of that experience also being memorable enough to have a story to tell. There are really only a handful of games I can go into any great detail about, and a whole horde of games that I've played and couldn't tell you the first thing about aside from scant details that you could probably glean from a back-of-the-box scan.
Though at the same time, I feel like games of the generation might be selling the generation a bit more than it's deserving of. Just the consummate critic in me I guess.