Eurovision - anyone watching?

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This is a heartfelt message from the United Kingdom, to all who didn't vote for us:

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France, UK and Spain have been delivering crap for the last 10 years. So...what's so surprising about their God-awful results?

I'm quite happy with the winner, Ukraine tranny was funny for the first 5 lines then he/she (it?) was just ridiculous.
 
Well, that sucked. Serbia? They were 3rd to last on our list, ahead of only the French and Armenia(?) with their TP-ed tree waving in the background.

First off, I can't believe people here are being all arty, but then again this is NeoGAF, where if you're not trying to prove you're superior to somebody, you're not trying.

We had a party and kept score according to a few criteria including singer (includes charisma and choreography), song, "thighs, etc.," and whether they went up a semi tone at the end. Points were awarded out of a possible 100, 100, 20 and 2, respectively.

The "thighs, etc." category made for some surprisingly large swings in the voting, in particular bumping up Russia, Turkey and especially Greece's (20/20) scores.

Moldova won, in no small part due to that but also my wife really likes Evanescence... :p There were a ton of entries like that this year. Weird.

Technically, I think the blues song was probably the best and it scored high in the song category, but was let down elsewhere.

As always, our Swiss counterparts also took part with their own party. We're waiting for final results, but for the record (and their country gave them 12 points or something) everyone we sampled there hated Serbia as much as we did. Also, they felt that the UK was trying too hard to be Eurovision-y.

Yeah, Eurovision is funny. Good times.
 
Eurovision is funny for sure, but this whole Eastern Europe-thing with them exchanging votes has to stop. I would seriously prefer to have only the European Union in the show next year.

Western Europe doesn't deserve this and we pay for having good songs turned down in favor for complete crap like Bulgaria and Georgia :(
 
Syringe said:
Eurovision is funny for sure, but this whole Eastern Europe-thing with them exchanging votes has to stop.
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Yes. Damn those pesky Eastern Europeans for having a similar musical history and taste. How dare they?

Syringe said:
Western Europe doesn't deserve this and we pay for having good songs turned down in favor for complete crap like Bulgaria and Georgia :(
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Absolutely. Why on earth don't great songs like this and this win? It must be a great Eastern European conspiracy, I tell you.
 
hahah, I don't really care about eurovision, but Norway is up in arms over "our" rep not making the cut.

Both our tv stations(all two of them!!) have had it on their news, twice now. goes to show how much hot shit goes on in this country....
 
Eurovision, so worth it for that icelandic chick, damn!

Shame that the Ukraine didn't win... Disco commie star costumes FTW!
 
See the problem is the only people that really give a toss and vote in the UK are teenage/tweenage girls and their mums, hence why the most shitass acts are nominated.


Long may it continue
 
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iapetus said:
Yes. Damn those pesky Eastern Europeans for having a similar musical history and taste. How dare they?



Absolutely. Why on earth don't great songs like this and this win? It must be a great Eastern European conspiracy, I tell you.
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say what you will, but I think it's quite obvious that Western European countries do not have a chance to win anymore - and it's not Eastern Europe's similar taste in music either.

It's not a conspiracy, just logical.
 
hadareud said:
say what you will, but I think it's quite obvious that Western European countries do not have a chance to win anymore - and it's not Eastern Europe's similar taste in music either.

It's not a conspiracy, just logical.
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"I DEFY... LOGIC!
 
Wow, France Gall totally reminds me of Keira Nightly. :O

And yes, Eastern countries vote for their neighbours, but it's not only friend politics:
- France, UK, Spain, Germany, ... have been sending horrible acts the last 10 years
- The Eastern countries are in the majority, and every year there's one or two more entering the contest. So it's not that unlogical there could be a lot of Eastern songs at the top
- A lot of these countries did bring the best songs to the contest the past few years.
- In the end, they do have more or less the same culture, so they probably like each others songs genuinly more than the western songs.
 
iapetus said:
It could also be argued that it is.
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thanks for that, I am aware of the facts. What I meant is that through the proximity to various eastern European countries it could be argued that it's not a classical western European country. That coupled with the fact that they are a Scandinavian country should help a bit.

Anyway, who gives a shit - it's Eurovision.
 
hadareud said:
thanks for that, I am aware of the facts. What I meant is that through the proximity to various eastern European countries it could be argued that it's not a classical western European country. That coupled with the fact that they are a Scandinavian country should help a bit.
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Sure, but only if you're desperately trying to convince yourself that a Western European country didn't win Eurovision last year with a song that was very much in the Western mould, and without the help of strategic voting (as you'll note that they didn't get any of those Eastern European votes this year, mostly on the grounds that their entry kind of sucked...)

Seriously, people are listening to Terry Wogan's insane rantings far too much. There is no giant Eurovision conspiracy.
 
I know what you're saying.

But if you look at where the votes come from it's hard to not agree that some countries vote for others by default. Then add in all the people from eastern European countries living in western ones - and you'll see that a pattern emerges.

Let's look at Turkey: 12 points from Holland, Germany, Austria (year after year btw). Do you know how many Turkish people live in those countries?

That's not a conspiracy theory. If they want a fair competition they need to review the voting format, desperately.

Then again, it's Eurovision - and I couldn't care less who wins and who doesn't.
 
TURKEY TO ARMENIA: 12 POINTS

ARMENIA TO TURNEY: 0 POINTS

The armenian population in turkey is quite small, so its not that. I’m guessing its just a kind PR related gesture, after the whole Hrank Dink assassination drama.

Hahahaha...losers!...aint fooling no one :lol :lol :lol :lol
 
If anyone is wondering about the 12 points the UK gave... Terry did mention the dancers were British.

Terry is not just the best part of Eurovision, he now controls it. :P
 
The Finnish commentators were damn awesome this year. Because of some insanely stupid decisions from the finnish national broadcasting company, YLE, we didn't even hear the song contest in Dolby Digital 5.1 when the rest of the Europe and world had 1080i and DD5.1.

Commentators:
"Did you know that the whole world is seeing this in beautiful high definition and surround sound, except us? Yeah, next year we'll see the Eurovision in black and white."

Finland attempts HDTV in 2010.

Propably. :(
 
manzo said:
The Finnish commentators were damn awesome this year. Because of some insanely stupid decisions from the finnish national broadcasting company, YLE, we didn't even hear the song contest in Dolby Digital 5.1 when the rest of the Europe and world had 1080i and DD5.1.

Commentators:
"Did you know that the whole world is seeing this in beautiful high definition and surround sound, except us? Yeah, next year we'll see the Eurovision in black and white."

Finland attempts HDTV in 2010.

Propably. :(
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I don't think the Dutch got HD, too. But don't really care.

Stop It said:
This is a heartfelt message from the United Kingdom, to all who voted for us:

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UK's song was ****ing horrible.

The Dutch commenter said 'You don't really hope ANY flight crew gets hit by a terrorist attack, but this one's trying'.
 
Xrenity said:
The Dutch commenter said 'You don't really hope ANY flight crew gets hit by a terrorist attack, but this one's trying'.
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:lol

That's a bit harsh and could also be a bit inflammable, but still funny :lol
 
Xrenity said:
I don't think the Dutch got HD, too. But don't really care.


UK's song was ****ing horrible.

The Dutch commenter said 'You don't really hope ANY flight crew gets hit by a terrorist attack, but this one's trying'.
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I'm at a loss when it comes to figuring out what constitutes a good Eurovision song, because no matter how good or bad the song is, the UK will never receive a decent amount of points.
 
We (the UK) get 0 points because the rest of Eurpe hate us :lol :lol :lol

cant say I blame them when we send an act like that ether :D
 
i think turks constitute the biggest ethnic group in Europe. Its not surprising when different parts of Europe have been under turkish control for many times. Also in the past turks also had strong alliances with the french, british, dutch, etc. I even recall that the ottoman empire even fought against the Spanish in southern france and then annexed the land to france, the ottomans also gave free trade agreements to france britian etc.

Theres even several autonomous Turkish regions within Europe.
 
Shompola said:
Come on now. Why would armenians, bulgars and greeks love you? An honest question.
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true, but why would we love them and give them points year after year. an honest answer. The answer to that i feel is that turks honestly wants peace with thier neighbours, but this love it seems is only one sided.

However it could also just be that turks loved their songs with isnt to far away from the truth. The Greek song was catchy and the Armenian one was emotional. So yeah maybe turks just liked the songs.
 
Remedy said:
i think turks constitute the biggest ethnic group in Europe.
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Slavic people will dare to disagree.

Its not surprising when different parts of Europe have been under turkish control for many times. Also in the past turks also had strong alliances with the french, british, dutch, etc. I even recall that the ottoman empire even fought against the Spanish in southern france and then annexed the land to france, the ottomans also gave free trade agreements to france britian etc.

Theres even several autonomous Turkish regions within Europe.
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Umm...are you trying to say that events from 50-500 years ago did influence yesterday's voting? Countries like Turkey, Serbia and Bosnia always get high scores simply because there are 100,000s of emigrants from those countries who vote for them. And no, Turkey (or any other eastern European country) ain't that popular within Europe (otherwise they were a bit more advanced in negotiations with the EU).
 
Radius said:
Slavic people will dare to disagree.



Umm...are you trying to say that events from 50-500 years ago did influence yesterday's voting? Countries like Turkey, Serbia and Bosnia always get high scores simply because there are 100,000s of emigrants from those countries who vote for them. And no, Turkey (or any other eastern European country) ain't that popular within Europe (otherwise they were a bit more advanced in negotiations with the EU).
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theres many Slavic states within Europe and many people also try to say turkey isn't in Europe.

The events of the past do have some effect. For example the Turkish involvement in Europe has allowed in part for turks to immigrant in large numbers, but there are many points and immigration certainly is one.

As for EU negotiations its totally too faced and discriminates against turks, a prime example being the Cyprus referendum, where turks voted in favor of unification, Greeks voted against, however they were admitted into the EU and the Turkish side wasn't. So in essence the turkish side was punished for doing the right thing and greek side was rewarded for doing the wrong thing. But i really don't wanna turn this into a political thread, because i know many turkish haters will come out of the woodwork.
 
>iapetus - I'm not saying there is a conspiracy anywhere, and I hope you wasn't offended. The people in eastern Europe isn't doing anything wrong voting at each other, just look at Greece/Cyprus exchaning votes, Portugal/Spain and of course the nordic countries.

What has happened though, is that a few countries in eastern Europe has become many countries in eastern Europa. Just the country of Yugoslavia has become more countries than Scandinavia. And since it doesn't matter how many people there is in a country (everybody gets the same numer of votes), the neighbor voting of eastern Europe does make to much of a difference in my humble opinion.

No one is doing anything wrong, as I said, but I would really like a re-haul of the rules as it is right now. I don't have the answers myself of how, but something needs to be done if anyone other than the eastern countries of Europe is gonna stand a chance (yes, I noticed Finland won last year but I still think it's way to much eastern Europe on the top spots).
 
Shompola said:
Come on now. Why would armenians, bulgars and greeks love you? An honest question.
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Because if it weren't for the Ottoman Empire, the Bulgars and Greeks would be Italian speaking Catholics.

Jasper said:
TURKEY TO ARMENIA: 12 POINTS

ARMENIA TO TURNEY: 0 POINTS

The armenian population in turkey is quite small, so its not that. I’m guessing its just a kind PR related gesture, after the whole Hrank Dink assassination drama.

Hahahaha...losers!...aint fooling no one :lol :lol :lol :lol
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Actually that just goes to show, that Turks really don't care about Greeks, Armenians, Serbians as much as these groups would like.
 
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