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[EdibleExplosives]

If your interest is preventing pedophiles from harming children then it should be viewed as normal. People with conditions deemed 'normal' by society have no reservations about making their problem known and getting help for it. If your eyesight sucks you don't hide it from people and risk killing someone when you drive, you go get some damned glasses because no one gives a shit if your eyesight sucks.

If society's reaction to pedophilia was "Yeah dude you should probably get that checked out and talk to a therapist or something" instead of "DIE IN ALL THE FUCKING FIRES YOU PIECE OF SHIT!" I have a feeling more pedophiles would seek treatment for their condition.

No, it shouldn't be treated as 'normal'. It shouldn't be accepted as normal, just as having the urge to kill shouldn't be accepted as normal. However, there's a difference between viewing something as normal and wanting to kill others for it. Again, I never said people who fantasized about children should 'die in a fucking fire', or suffer any sort of physical pain. It should be viewed in a way by society that someone isn't ashamed to get help for it, but it shouldn't be shrugged off as normal behaviour.
It is not fucking normal.

 

[Charles Foster Kane]

Are you asking me how to do that? I can't help you.
I know that a large chunk create themselves as a pony. Their own original character. I guess if you want to become that, you could dedicate your life becoming that.

More like how the hell could someone see themselves as that? I mean, with it being a completely different species and all. Makes no damn sense. I understand liking the stuff, but seeing yourself as that? It's just too odd.

 

[RionaaM]

Alright, so if one views itself as a pony and wish to form sexual relationships with other ponies, does that still fall into bestiality? Because if I am correct, bestiality is between a human and an animal. We are talking ponies on ponies, no? Sounds natural.

Yeah well, seeing yourself as a pony doesn't sound too natural to me. Like, at all.

 

[TCRS]

I blame Lil Sebastian

 

[mullet2000]

No, it shouldn't be treated as 'normal'. It shouldn't be accepted as normal, just as having the urge to kill shouldn't be accepted as normal. However, there's a difference between viewing something as normal and wanting to kill others for it. Again, I never said people who fantasized about children should 'die in a fucking fire', or suffer any sort of physical pain. It should be viewed in a way by society that someone isn't ashamed to get help for it, but it shouldn't be shrugged off as normal behaviour.
It is not fucking normal.

I'm pretty sure you're missing his point.

He's not saying it should be normal. He's saying getting help for the problem should be more normal.

 

[the chris]

There is a small aspect of My Little Pony that I don't mind:

Homestuck fans on the other hand...

 

[Discotheque]

I'm pretty sure you're missing his point.

He's not saying it should be normal. He's saying getting help for the problem should be more normal.

That I can agree with

Also I would love for David lynch to direct a movie about a Bronys life

 

[heliosRAzi]

I just saw the first episode and I don't see how grown men could find it interesting.

 

[EdibleExplosives]

Alright, now we're coming full-circle. Can you tell me how that relates to fetishizing MLP?

My argument was against beastiality and paedophilia. I don't really give a fuck if someone jerks off to a cartoon pony, but I'd hope they might eventually get help for it since I'm pretty sure there's something mentally wrong there.

I'm just going to totally ignore the fact that someone is perfectly capable of harboring such desires without ever acting on them - nay, not even a desire to act on them. That would just muddy the waters further.

And I'm also going to ignore the fact that many people have begun with fantasizing and moved onto acting on their impulses.

I'm pretty sure you're missing his point.

He's not saying it should be normal. He's saying getting help for the problem should be more normal.

Then he's not getting my point since I never said getting help for it shouldn't be normal. Many crimes could be prevented from people getting mental help.

 

[Brian Griffin]

No, it shouldn't be treated as 'normal'. It shouldn't be accepted as normal, just as having the urge to kill shouldn't be accepted as normal. However, there's a difference between viewing something as normal and wanting to kill others for it. Again, I never said people who fantasized about children should 'die in a fucking fire', or suffer any sort of physical pain. It should be viewed in a way by society that someone isn't ashamed to get help for it, but it shouldn't be shrugged off as normal behaviour.
It is not fucking normal.

Ok, I think we agree, but the word 'normal' always mucks things up in these kinds of discussions. Instead of 'normal' I should have said 'a thing that a person can be that they have no choice over'. If there is a word for that I don't know it so I just went with 'normal'.

 

[Charles Foster Kane]

That I can agree with

Also I would love for David lynch to direct a movie about a Bronys life

It might be great actually.

 

[dsister44]

There is a small aspect of My Little Pony that I don't mind:

I actually meet quite a few more girl bronies than I do guy bronies. And the last convention I went to waaaaay more girls were dressed up than guys. It might be just that guys are better at hiding it though

 

[Ferrio]

Homestuck fans on the other hand...
http://i.imgur.com/o125o0V.jpg[/QUOTE]

What is homestuck anyways? I always see it, but I've resisted the urge to find out wtf it is.

 

[Fari]

Why do MLP fans love fedoras?

Harkens back to the pre-civil rights era.

I'm being facetious, but my armchair research on the subject confirms that there is a high correlation between being a brony and holding pretty conservative political views. I find this to be much more fascinating than the sexual element, which is present in most fandoms anyway (although admittedly much more prevalent in the case of MLP).

 

[EdibleExplosives]

Ok, I think we agree, but the word 'normal' always mucks things up in these kinds of discussions. Instead of 'normal' I should have said 'a thing that a person can be that they have no choice over'. If there is a word for that I don't know it so I just went with 'normal'.

Yep, I agree then.

Except almost everyone in this thread that have a problem with the behavior is using the first method. The only ones shouting the second are the ones accusing the other side of doing it.

Exactly.

 

[Deified Data]

Yes I'm mocking and crying out how sick they are, not just stating that people in the OP have problems with social cues (since he obviously does) and that sexualizing the characters of a children's cartoon isn't exactly on par with Star Trek shipping. Yes. I'm the one dabbling in hilarious hyperbole and "crying."

I think people just think it's weird that an otherwise open-minded poster is saying there's something "wrong" with participating in a particular fandom/fetish when it concerns no one but yourself.

And I'm also going to ignore the fact that many people have begun with fantasizing and moved onto acting on their impulses.

This is the opposite of ignoring it, though.

 

[Link]

If your interest is preventing pedophiles from harming children then it should be viewed as normal. People with conditions deemed 'normal' by society have no reservations about making their problem known and getting help for it. If your eyesight sucks you don't hide it from people and risk killing someone when you drive, you go get some damned glasses. This is really easy because no one gives a shit if your eyesight sucks.

This example doesn't work. If everyone else pretends it's normal behavior, what is stopping someone from acting on it just like your glasses scenario? Pretending there isn't a problem is a terrible way to go about things.

If society's reaction to pedophilia was "Yeah dude you should probably get that checked out and talk to a therapist or something" instead of "DIE IN ALL THE FUCKING FIRES YOU PIECE OF SHIT!" I have a feeling more pedophiles would seek treatment for their condition. Just to be clear, I am talking about those who have never touched any kids. Those who have can actually go die in all the fires.

Except almost everyone in this thread that have a problem with the behavior is using the first method. The only ones shouting the second are the ones accusing the other side of doing it.

 

[RawkHawk2010]

Yeah well, seeing yourself as a pony doesn't sound too natural to me. Like, at all.

Are there any legitimate cases of species dysphoria like there is gender dysphoria? (...that don't stem from being raised by wolves like that one girl?)

I'm interested in knowing how close one could come to having an excuse.

 

[Brian Griffin]

Yep, I agree then.

Sweet! *internet high-five*

This example doesn't work. If everyone else pretends it's normal behavior, what is stopping someone from acting on it just like your glasses scenario? Pretending there isn't a problem is a terrible way to go about things.

Except almost everyone in this thread that have a problem with the behavior is using the first method. The only ones shouting the second are the ones accusing the other side of doing it.

Yeah, 'normal' was the wrong word. Read my other posts with EdibleExplosives. We worked it out.

I wasn't accusing anyone in the thread of the second method but more society in general. Anyway, back to bronies. I also find this really interesting if it is actually a true correlation.

I'm being facetious, but my armchair research on the subject confirms that there is a high correlation between being a brony and holding pretty conservative political views. I find this to be much more fascinating than the sexual element, which is present in most fandoms anyway (although admittedly much more prevalent in the case of MLP).

 

[dsister44]

I'm being facetious, but my armchair research on the subject confirms that there is a high correlation between being a brony and holding pretty conservative political views. I find this to be much more fascinating than the sexual element, which is present in most fandoms anyway (although admittedly much more prevalent in the case of MLP).

As someone who used to hang out in pony related irc chats I don't see that being the case at all. Deviantart seems to have a larger concentration of Christians though

 

[MormaPope]

The MLP fanbase makes me want that weird sexual tension applied to other shows. Imagine Seinfeld cons where everyone picks a waifu such as Elaine or Geroge's mom. Or Sopranos cons where Carmella would be the main waifu.

 

[RawkHawk2010]

The MLP fanbase makes me want that weird sexual tension applied to other shows. Imagine Seinfeld cons where everyone picks a waifu such as Elaine or Geroge's mom. Or Sopranos cons where Carmella would be the main waifu.

...okay, I laughed so hard at the thought of that.

 

[Devolution]

I think people just think it's weird that an otherwise open-minded poster is saying there's something "wrong" with participating in a particular fandom/fetish when it concerns no one but yourself.

There's nothing wrong with watching MLP, I do have some concerns with sexualizing characters meant for kids, obsession with a show that's so fierce someone wraps his identity up in it and the guy in the OP obviously needs a crash course on social appropriateness. I realize for the most part it's harmless, doesn't mean stuffing a flesh light up a plushie is the same thing as Star Trek shipping.

 

[Acerac]

I just saw the first episode and I don't see how grown men could find it interesting.

The community helps. If you're not and easily put off and overly judgmental there are a lot of interesting people in it.

 

[DrForester]

The MLP fanbase makes me want that weird sexual tension applied to other shows. Imagine Seinfeld cons where everyone picks a waifu such as Elaine or Geroge's mom. Or Sopranos cons where Carmella would be the main waifu.

I'd pay to see a Trekkie thunder dome for who gets the Seven of Nine waifu.

 

[Village]

The MLP fanbase makes me want that weird sexual tension applied to other shows. Imagine Seinfeld cons where everyone picks a waifu such as Elaine or Geroge's mom. Or Sopranos cons where Carmella would be the main waifu.

sometimes it isn't weird, sometimes its forced.

I can point a number of things I have enjoyed over the years that got a sexual tension injection part way through.

and then things got a little weird

 

[Maxim726X]

The community helps. If you're not and easily put off and overly judgmental there are a lot of interesting people in it.

But what is inherently interesting about the show? And why is it that this show in particular has such a following?

 

[mullet2000]

The MLP fanbase makes me want that weird sexual tension applied to other shows. Imagine Seinfeld cons where everyone picks a waifu such as Elaine or Geroge's mom. Or Sopranos cons where Carmella would be the main waifu.

Soup Nazi is my Husbando

 

[akira28]

I'd pay to see a Trekkie thunder dome for who gets the Seven of Nine waifu.

Ezri Dax is my waifu.

But what is inherently interesting about the show? And why is it that this show in particular has such a following?

cutesy pop culture tornado of color in a show about friendship and soft voices soothing topics in a time where people are making fewer social connections and have less personal human contact than ever. People are growing apart, people starting families much later, if they ever do at all, especially men of traditional fatherhood age. There are connections to previous popular cartoons via the production of the show. People feel less threatened about protecting their manhood or proving their dominance and have less qualms about indulging in things that make them feel good. It's a confluence of a lot of separate factors. Like a fusion reaction that produces free energy, MLP generated all this extra stuff.

My personal fave is MLP: Friendship is Witchcraft. HotDiggityDemon's parody was also pretty good. I like the ponies best in mature comedic situations, myself. But the show is still what it is, which is mostly fun.

 

[CorvoSol]

I know a guy here at my school who wears fedoras and pony shirts pretty often. I see him frequently (we're in the same congregation), but I don't talk to him enough to know. A friend of mine from my first semester here was also really into the pony thing.

Iunno. I've seen things in the Awesome Fanart thread that color my perception of reality in this.

 

[dude]

doesn't mean stuffing a flesh light up a plushie is the same thing as Star Trek shipping.

I will ask again - Why is it not? You never answered me, and it's not as obvious as you seem to think.

 

[RionaaM]

Are there any legitimate cases of species dysphoria like there is gender dysphoria? (...that don't stem from being raised by wolves like that one girl?)

I'm interested in knowing how close one could come to having an excuse.

Well, you're a monkey (or a mandrill, your avatar isn't very clear) that believes he's a human. So I'd say yes.

I think people just think it's weird that an otherwise open-minded poster is saying there's something "wrong" with participating in a particular fandom/fetish when it concerns no one but yourself.

Who's saying it's wrong? So far, I've only read that it's weird, creepy and absolutely not normal at all, things I also believe. But to say it's wrong? Nah.

 

[n8]

More like how the hell could someone see themselves as that. I mean, with it being a completely different species and all. Makes no sense. I understand liking the stuff, but seeing yourself as that? It's just too odd.

People have looked at animals and seen traits to admire over since well the dawn of time. Sly as a fox. Fast as a cheetah. Loyal as a dog.
I guess if you brought things into the extreme, you could go all the way into becoming it mentally.

 

[DrForester]

I just saw the first episode and I don't see how grown men could find it interesting.

I enjoy the heck out of the show, but will be the first to say it isn't for everyone. Even amongst the fans though, the pilot is not held in the highest regards by many fans. Many would say watch episode 7, "Dragonshy", and if that's still not your cup of tea, it's probably not something you'd enjoy. Most fans seem to have not started with the pilot. My first episode was #16, "Sonic Rainboom"

Unless you're a Trekkie, in which case, watch episode 10, "Swarm of the Century" which is a ponified "Trouble with Tribbles", or the S2 premier, "Return of Harmony" which features John de Lancie all but reprising the role of Q.

 

[DrForester]

Ezri Dax is my waifu.

Hot Dax > Cute Dax.

 

[EdibleExplosives]

Sweet! *internet high-five*

The MLP fanbase makes me want that weird sexual tension applied to other shows. Imagine Seinfeld cons where everyone picks a waifu such as Elaine or Geroge's mom. Or Sopranos cons where Carmella would be the main waifu.

I'm sure there's some Rule 34 of Seinfeld on the internet somewhere, so you might have a few fans already.

 

[LuffyZoro]

But what is inherently interesting about the show? And why is it that this show in particular has such a following?

It's cute and sometimes funny. If you like musicals, it has good songs. If you care about voice acting, that's good. It's not perfect by any means, but it's not unworthy of some fans.

 

[FO-totality]

Well, you're a monkey (or a mandrill, your avatar isn't very clear) that believes he's a human. So I'd say yes.


Who's saying it's wrong? So far, I've only read that it's weird, creepy and absolutely not normal at all, things I also believe. But to say it's wrong? Nah.

So am I a necrophile then?

 

[Dai101]

There is a small aspect of My Little Pony that I don't mind:

Agree, Applejack cosplayers are better tho'

 

[mullet2000]

I'm sure there's some Rule 34 of Seinfeld on the internet somewhere, so you might have a few fans already.

There's actually a full-on parody:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MyZg7E27cw

Nsfw, obviously.

 

[Acerac]

But what is inherently interesting about the show? And why is it that this show in particular has such a following?

During season 1 at least it was a surprisingly funny show whose humor stemmed from cuteness instead of the usual crass humor of comedies these days. Obviously it wasn't for everyone, but it hit that niche very well.

That said, the show wouldn't have taken off nearly as strongly if the community wasn't so active. It would have never been as succesful if the community wasn't as active. As far as why the community is so awesome, your guess is as good as mine.

Sorry, I can't tell you why everyone likes it, I can just speak as to why I enjoyed it when I did.

I was also kinda high haha.

Oh well that's kinda a given for a show about magical ponies.

...wait are people thinking we watch this show sober? THAT could explain a lot.

 

[The Anti-Monitor]

Jessica Nigri is so damn hot.

 

[Brian Griffin]

I just saw the first episode and I don't see how grown men could find it interesting.

When I watched it I found it pretty relaxing and refreshing. No dick and fart jokes. No violence. No bad language. All that stuff is great but after watching shows with it since I was a kid it was nice to watch something where everything is happy and fun.

I was also kinda high haha.

 

[vidcons]

I will ask again - Why is it not? You never answered me, and it's not as obvious as you seem to think.

I'm going to PM you a Youtube video and I want you to watch it and come back to this thread with some thoughts.

 

[akira28]

Hot Dax > Cute Dax.

Well she has a twin in the evil universe, you can have her. I'll take pixie cut uniform cutie Dax. Who just so happens to be my sexy Dax....ok this is getting weird.

...wait are people thinking we watch this show sober? THAT could explain a lot.

yeah they need to understand...there's a process. It used to start with lots of smoke, watching the streaming pony episode with others in chat and usually ended with playing TeamFortress2. And alcohol.

 

[Tesseract]

bulma is pretty smoking hot y'know imo? brains, beauty, blue hair and sass.

 

[freenudemacusers]

When I watched it I found it pretty relaxing and refreshing. No dick and fart jokes. No violence. No bad language. All that stuff is great but after watching shows with it since I was a kid it was nice to watch something where everything is happy and fun.

I was also kinda high haha.

This works for the show Wonderpets, too.

Where are my wonderbros at /

 

[dude]

I'm going to PM you a Youtube video and I want you to watch it and come back to this thread with some thoughts.

While there's no reason to be because you don't know me, I'm a little offended you'd think a video would change my point. Nothing of what I said changed - It was a guy, fantasizing, in a way that is outside the norm, but not hurting anyone. He doesn't deserve mockery, and as long as he lives he fulfilling life he's not crazy either.

And it's still no different to me than people fapping over hentai.

 

[Lumination]

1. I have absolutely no issues with bronies and how they view ponies (sexually or not) as long as they have the ability to discern when or when not to proclaim their interest publicly. I don't go around telling people about all the new Pokemans I caught yesterday. Just makes for an awkward situation. I realize the people who sexualize ponies are a minority within a minority.

2. For the people making parallels to pedophilia (both being legal and victimless as long as its kept in the mind), honest question for you. Children have been wed to adults for ages. Children are a natural phenomenon. How do you explain a "natural" sexual attraction to MLP? Were they into bestiality before and this is an outlet? I don't mean to offend.

3. Do I want to know what "shipping" means?

Let's try to keep this civil, guys. I find this topic fascinating and I would hate for it to be closed. Thanks.

 

[EdibleExplosives]

There's actually a full-on parody:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MyZg7E27cw

Nsfw, obviously.

Incredible.

This works for the show Wonderpets, too.

Where are my wonderbros at /

That is one of the most annoying things I've ever had to watch. They never stop singing, and nothing ever rhymes.