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So a lot of that stuff IS marketed to males while MLP was\is marketed to little girls.

EDIT: If your life revolves around any of those and you go into creepy fan mode I'm still going to find it weird but accept it.

marketed to little boys. gender based marketing is quickly becoming apparent bullshit, and age based marketing has always been bullshit.
 
That's a very small minority of games, and an even smaller minority of popular games. The vast majority of games are aimed at teens, followed by kids. Let's not pretend that Gears of War is aimed at adults, okay? Dostoyevsky is aimed at adults. Kubrick is aimed at adults. The only recent AAA games I can think of that even attempt to be mature are the Bioshock series, the MGS series, and GTA4/RDR.
Not so sure about those examples, especially GTA4. A better example would be a game like Heavy Rain. Still, you are right most games are targeted towards younger audiences but those being around late teen and 20 somethings, especially when they're "M" rated and not even intended for those under the age of 18.

MLP is really geared towards the pre-adolescent girls. Personally, I say live and let live. I don't understand someone obsessed with this cartoon and even moreso, people who sexualize ponies or any animal for that matter. I wouldn't exactly call myself normal - I'm far from it - but that latter just kind of strikes me even as creepy.
 
Not so sure about those examples, especially GTA4. A better example would be a game like Heavy Rain. Still, you are right most games are targeted towards younger audiences but those being around late teen and 20 somethings, especially when they're "M" rated and not even intended for those under the age of 18.

MLP is really geared towards the pre-adolescent girls. Personally, I say live and let live. I don't understand someone obsessed with this cartoon and even moreso, people who sexualize ponies or any animal for that matter. I wouldn't exactly call myself normal - I'm far from it - but that latter just kind of strikes me even as creepy.
You guys don't know who plays games or who they are marketed to. It's not a mystery to unravel, I'm sure anyone involved in marketing in the industry will tell you where the money is. Most games are marketed to, and purchased by, 20-30's adults.
 
Guys, guys, guys. You're taking the pony porn "clopper" stuff way too seriously. That shit was started by /b/. It's their sense of humor: take something wholesome and make porn out of it. I can't believe I have to explain this stuff on a gaming forum.

I mean, if that's the basis of your argument that bronies are sick pedos, you've been trolled. Go make friends with the gaffers that thought Joakim Mogren was CG.

Don't give me the Howard Stern video as evidence either. The Howard Stern Show is all about entertainment. It's not where you go for accurate depictions. And I'm saying this as a casual (once diehard) fan of Stern.

You guys don't know who plays games or who they are marketed to. It's not a mystery to unravel, I'm sure anyone involved in marketing in the industry will tell you where the money is. Most games are marketed to, and purchased by, 20-30's adults.

Who cares about marketing? I'm talking about the actual content of the games. You don't need an adult maturity level to get the most out of Gears of War. You do in order to get the most out of Crime and Punishment. Now, plenty of adults don't advance beyond a teenage level of maturity until their 40s, and plenty of teens have an adult level of maturity by 16.

Go on an intelligent program like NPR's Fresh Air and tell them Gears of War is an adult game because it's marketed to adults.
 
So they can like it without issue, it's when they like it too much that it becomes a problem? I don't get this line of thinking. Are people just irked that they don't enjoy anything as much as bronies enjoy MLP?

"You are only allowed to have fun up to a certain level of enjoyment. Any enjoyment and expression thereof that exceeds said level shall hereby label you 'weird' and/or 'creepy' and/or 'obsessed'. These labels shall make it acceptable for you to be insulted and mocked for having too much fun. If you wish to shed such labels you must reduce your level of fun down to the socially accepted level."

People are upset that no one likes the thing they like as much as they do, and there are a bunch of people liking something else.

Every ,"why is this thing so popular" thread ever/
 
Who cares about marketing? I'm talking about the actual content of the games. You don't need an adult maturity level to get the most out of Gears of War. You do in order to get the most out of Crime and Punishment. Now, plenty of adults don't advance beyond a teenage level of maturity until their 40s, and plenty of teens have an adult level of maturity by 16.

Go on an intelligent program like NPR's Fresh Air and tell them Gears of War is an adult game because it's marketed to adults.
You're moving the goalposts. You said they were aimed primarily at teenagers and children, and you're wrong. Then out of nowhere I'm challenged to defend a non-existent belief that Gears of War's story is "adult" by measure of it's "maturity", as if that has anything to do with what you claimed.

The fact that teenagers are typically attracted to adult things doesn't mean that the games arent made for and marketed to adults, the people that buy the majority of them.
 
You guys don't know who plays games or who they are marketed to. It's not a mystery to unravel, I'm sure anyone involved in marketing in the industry will tell you where the money is. Most games are marketed to, and purchased by, 20-30's adults.
Well, pretty much what I said. Most games, especially those rated "M" are meant for those 18 and older and that means, adults. Of course, those games highly appeal to the adolescent and pre-adolescent crowd and there's no mistake most publishers/developers know this as well. Games really can't be compared to MLP unless we're talking about games specifically designed for much younger audiences, like.... uh.... an MLP video game.
 
Well, pretty much what I said. Most games, especially those rated "M" are meant for those 18 and older and that means, adults. Of course, those games highly appeal to the adolescent and pre-adolescent crowd and there's no mistake most publishers/developers know this as well. Games really can't be compared to MLP unless we're talking about games specifically designed for much younger audiences, like.... uh.... an MLP video game.

I got one for you

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Bam.

Marketed

HEAVILY for children

errybody and they mamma play dat.

Because there is depth there, and I think that's why people like MLP, they see depth there.
 
I got one for you

Bam.

Marketed

HEAVILY for children

errybody and they mamma play dat.

Because there is depth there, and I think that's why people like MLP, they see depth there.

Most people who play/watch it don't call themselves pokemon masters though. Those who identify as one are creepy.
 
I got one for you

20101007155439!Ash_Pikachu.png



Bam.

Marketed

HEAVILY for children

errybody and they mamma play dat.

Because there is depth there, and I think that's why people like MLP, they see depth there.

This is a weird tangent. The issue for some of us hasn't been the watching of the show it's been the lack of self-awareness with people who wrap their identity up in the show.
 
You're moving the goalposts. You said they were aimed primarily at teenagers and children, and you're wrong. Now I'm challenged to defend a non-existent belief that Gears of War's story is "adult" by measure of it's maturity, as if that has anything to do with it.

When I said "aimed", I most certainly didn't mean "marketed." I'm well aware that the target demo for video games are adult males.

Also, I never specifically singled out GoW's story.

"as if that has anything to do with it"? What? Look at what I said in the context of what I was originally replying to.



You guys watch way too much cable news. That is really all I have left to contribute to this thread without repeating myself for the zillionth time. You're cynical and media-influenced to the point where you can't possibly fathom men doing anything that detracts from them getting laid.

Ah, one other thing. I've seen the first season of Adventure Time, and it is definitely aimed towards children. The original short was more subversive, but the TV show incorporates the typical themes and scenarios of children's cartoons. MLP's primary theme, "friendship is magic", is (predictably) a common fixture of Adventure Time as well. But hey, I guess it's okay because it's a little boys show.
 
I got one for you

http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111008233255/pokemon/images/8/80/20101007155439!Ash_Pikachu.png[IMG]


Bam.

Marketed

[B]HEAVILY [/B]for children

errybody and they mamma play dat.

Because there is depth there, and I think that's why people like MLP, they see depth there.[/QUOTE]
I won't judge you too much for identifying strongly with something that appeals to a child's sensibilities, as long as you don't start taking pictures of a pokeball in your rectum.
 
I won't judge you too much for identifying strongly with something that appeals to a child's sensibilities, as long as you don't start taking pictures of a pokeball in your rectum.

There are more porn of Pokemon than any other series in existance; just saying.
 
I got one for you

20101007155439!Ash_Pikachu.png



Bam.

Marketed

HEAVILY for children

errybody and they mamma play dat.

Because there is depth there, and I think that's why people like MLP, they see depth there.
Pokemon is a world of difference from MLP. It has a lot more depth, yes, and it's targeted for both male and female children, unlike MLP who's creator even says 'this is a cartoon for little girls.' I also like JRPGs, Transformers movies, Marvel, Star Wars.... all things actually targeted to a younger audience. And then of course it all comes down to these points:

Most people who play/watch it don't call themselves pokemon masters though. Those who identify as one are creepy.

This is a weird tangent. The issue for some of us hasn't been the watching of the show it's been the lack of self-awareness with people who wrap their identity up in the show.
 
You guys watch way too much cable news. That is really all I have left to contribute to this thread without repeating myself for the zillionth time. You're cynical and media-influenced to the point where you can't possibly fathom men doing anything that detracts from them getting laid.

Ah, one other thing. I've seen the first season of Adventure Time, and it is definitely aimed towards children. The original short was more subversive, but the TV show incorporates the typical themes and scenarios of children's cartoons. MLP's primary theme, "friendship is magic", is (predictably) a common fixture of Adventure Time as well. But hey, I guess it's okay because it's a little boys show.

Yeah, right. THAT's why people are disturbed by overly obsessive bronies, because of their gender biases. Adventure Time fans don't introduce themselves as "Adventurers"
 
Pokemon is a world of difference from MLP. It has a lot more depth, yes, and it's targeted for both male and female children, unlike MLP who's creator even says 'this is a cartoon for little girls.' I also like JRPGs, Transformers movies, Marvel, Star Wars.... all things actually targeted to a younger audience. And then of course it all comes down to these points:

HA!!!! Are this for serious?
 
HA!!!! Are this for serious?
Probably compared to MLP, I would imagine. I honestly never played a Pokemon game but isn't it a bit stat heavy. I was thinking of the Pokemon games and not the animation, so my mistake as I failed to mention that.
 
Pokemon is a world of difference from MLP. It has a lot more depth, yes, and it's targeted for both male and female children, unlike MLP who's creator even says 'this is a cartoon for little girls.' I also like JRPGs, Transformers movies, Marvel, Star Wars.... all things actually targeted to a younger audience. And then of course it all comes down to these points:

Gameplay wise , yes because MLP isnt a game. Story wise, you are a lie, and you know you are stop it.

I won't judge you too much for identifying strongly with something that appeals to a child's sensibilities, as long as you don't start taking pictures of a pokeball in your rectum.

That probably exists, Pokemon doesn't get as much flack for it as it should, but there are a lot of creepy poke-porn dudes on the web.

This is a weird tangent. The issue for some of us hasn't been the watching of the show it's been the lack of self-awareness with people who wrap their identity up in the show.
I had been responding to a specific point, not the entire thread.

Yeah, right. THAT's why people are disturbed by overly obsessive bronies, because of their gender biases. Adventure Time fans don't introduce themselves as "Adventurers"

You mean like

whovians
trekkies
narutards

I don't see your point, they gave themselves a nickname big woop.
 
Gameplay wise , yes because MLP isnt a game. Story wise, you are a lie, and you know you are stop it.
Yes, that's what I meant. Please read the post above your's.

Edit: I wouldn't be surprised if the Pokemon universe overall has more depth being around a great deal longer than the more recent MLP animated series. But we would need someone who is well versed in both shows to judge that.
 
Yes, that's what I meant. Please read the post above your's.

But to suggest one is deeper than the other would be and odd argument, its differet types of depth.

On is gameplay depth( and in Pokemon shit is deep), and then there is narrative depth. Clearly these people see something worth digging into involving these ponies.
 
That stern bit is great.


"as anyone would say...sweet pony ass"


rofl. The sigh as he says that...so perfect.
 
It has less to do with caring about how others live their lives, and more to do with others being socially inept.

Why do you care about them being socially inept? This is a serious question by the way.

People around us help shape the culture we live in. So yes. The way others live their lives does affect your life.

I would say that is situational. Though I like your kojima -esque look on things.
 
This is a weird tangent. The issue for some of us hasn't been the watching of the show it's been the lack of self-awareness with people who wrap their identity up in the show.

This...

I don't see how it is so hard to understand. Most people are not knocking anyone for watching it. I watched it at one point and thought it was good but my interest faded. Being a fan is one thing, hell I don't even care if you call yourself a brony or anything but when people get wrapped up and do things like that youtube video, the NSFW image linked, and anything like that. Well then that is a bit disturbing.
 
This...

I don't see how it is so hard to understand. Most people are not knocking anyone for watching it. I watched it at one point and thought it was good but my interest faded. Being a fan is one thing, hell I don't even care if you call yourself a brony or anything but when people get wrapped up and do things like that youtube video, the NSFW image linked, and anything like that. Well then that is a bit disturbing.

As a pokemon and a Sonic fan, I just leave them to their devices. If the device is a cream the rabbit plushy with a vag, hey... more power to them?
 
He's just a western otaku, yes his hobbies may seem strange to us but if he finds joy in it why should we judge him? There's not much to understand besides the fact that he likes the show a lot. I'm sure you can find fans who are not obsessive like him and just watch the programme on a normal bases like any other show.
 
Why does this have to be the most popular thread I ever made?

You started this thread with good intentions, that is, trying to understand your teammate. I'm pretty sure you're nowhere closer to gaining that understanding. Thanks Internet! Now, how can we inject Obama into this discussion?

What I've learned: don't try to have a serious debate on the internet. It's like having an in-person debate where the participants leave every few minutes, and new participants join in the middle of the debate.

Now, let's all hold hands and sing Howard Stern's version of the My Little Pony theme:
My little boner, my little boner, gets real hard when Robin speaks...
 
Probably compared to MLP, I would imagine. I honestly never played a Pokemon game but isn't it a bit stat heavy. I was thinking of the Pokemon games and not the animation, so my mistake as I failed to mention that.

I got one on the DS to check it out just out of curiosity and you aren't missing much.

It's just a boring turn based jrpg. Combat is super simple, characters and script are super simple. Catching and getting the pokemans to evolve is the only hook.
 
I got one on the DS to check it out just out of curiosity and you aren't missing much.

It's just a boring turn based jrpg. Combat is super simple, characters and script are super simple. Catching and getting the pokemans to evolve is the only hook.

NOPE. Easy to learn hard to master,
or shall introduce you to mr EV and IV.

And I would say he is missing something I happen to enjoy pokemons
 
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