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[Javin98]

When I first saw this comparison pic before GTA 5 released on the current gen consoles, I thought it was the 360 version on the left for a while...

 

[thelastword]

I'm sure owners of budget PC cards are very interested in those comparisons. What they want is to know what kind of hardware is necessary to have console-like experience, not if X or Y game pushed either consoles to their limits.
I have the feeling you don't really like those comparisons because you don't like the results. However much you may criticize them fact is it does not take anywhere near high-end PC hardware to match consoles.

I have no problem with objective data or results, (once they're accurate that is), but it makes sense that things be comparable in the sense that there are no artificial limits in place. In the same way, I won't compare a man standing strapped 50 meters in on a 100m track when Usain Bolt is running past him to the finish line, who knows if he could have beaten Usain had he not been strapped.

Ah, I remember the 2012-2013 predictions threads, and I was one of those who believed the consoles would outshine PCs for at least a whole year. That is absolutely not what happened and I'm glad.

On multiplats? I never believed so. I don't think many truly did either. Exclusives, yes? and arguably PS4 has the best looking games right now. Tbh, PC has never really been eclipsed by consoles on multiplats in any generation.

 

[hodgy100]

Gotta read a bit better next time.



The test Kezen posted was using an i5-2500k. The one you linked used an i7-5960X. The whole point is that when the CPU is tested to its fullest - mind you, GTA5 looks to be a relatively CPU-intense game to run - the AMD GPUs can't hold weight. Your graph utilizing a newer $1000 CPU doesn't refute that at all.

there was nothing to inform a reader of the cpu that was being used in his test's. it also doesn't mirror the performance I get on my own pc (i5 3570k + r9-290) which made me want to call it out in the first place.

 

[StevieP]

I've created a visual aid.

So true.

 

[Nzyme32]

I've created a visual aid.

Haha. Might as well put this in the OP of any PC thread / DF thread

 

[Kezen]

those benches are bullshit though. were they without the updated driver?

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/gta_v_pc_graphics_performance_review,5.html

PClab used the AMD optimized drivers for GTA 5. Yours are with MSAA by the way.

 

[Windom Earle]

I've created a visual aid.

lol. What I find worse are the "aside from fps = small difference" comments.
That's like saying "aside from acceleration and top speed, this Ferrari is almost the same as my Golf". Car anologies suck, but you can't just sweep aside such a major factor like that.

 

[inky]

lol. What I find worse are the "aside from fps = small difference" comments.
That's like saying "aside from acceleration and top speed, this Ferrari is almost the same as my Golf". Car anologies suck, but you can't just sweep aside such a major factor like that.

Actually, your Golf is better because it seats more people and doesn't cost $3000. You don't have to go to shady websites to install drivers for your Golf either.

 

[Windom Earle]

Actually, your Golf is better because it seats more people and doesn't cost $3000. You don't have to go to shady websites to install drivers for your Golf either.

Not sure if serious.

That's what we all expected to see this generation. It's why Alexandros mentioned it. Why is a 750ti besting a PS4?

Except this is not what the article/video shows.

 

[pager99]

I thought the 750 tI was 60fps that other thread looks stupid now

 

[Windom Earle]

I thought the 750 tI was 60fps that other thread looks stupid now

People believed in the stupid in-game benchmark that DF was using for a rushed article.
This video proves that they perform pretty much identical. (PS4 actually has a slight edge in terms of stability I think)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OE2iI7OLh8&feature=youtu.be

 

[jim2point0]

Actually, your Golf is better because it seats more people and doesn't cost $3000. You don't have to go to shady websites to install drivers for your Golf either.

Shady websites to install drivers?

WTF are you talking about?

EDIT: Probably joking. Right....? I can't even tell in this thread anymore.

 

[martino]

Actually, your Golf is better because it seats more people and doesn't cost $3000. You don't have to go to shady websites to install drivers for your Golf either.

 

[LabouredSubterfuge]

Don't know about you guys but I get my graphics drivers from Warez sites.

 

[Mr Zebra]

Shady websites to install drivers?

WTF are you talking about?

EDIT: Probably joking. Right....? I can't even tell in this thread anymore.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1025623

 

[pvpness]

With the minuscule difference (60fps and higher IQ is barely noticeable) on the big games and Steam now charging a subscription fee the reasons to game on PC are shrinking. Is it going to be 2006 all over again?

Haha!

Lookin good! I'll have to double once it's on sale. Did they have the option to transfer our console characters to pc, or was that a ps4/X1 thing only?

 

[DeaviL]

Actually, your Golf is better because it seats more people and doesn't cost $3000. You don't have to go to shady websites to install drivers for your Golf either.

That reference though 10/10

 

[lukeskymac]

We're here to compare what the pc version can do vs what the console versions can do in an unlimited fashion.
This is not the "can X GPU and X CPU match PS4" thread.

Yes, that's what the DF article does, and I have zero problems with it.

That wasn't, however, what Durante was getting at with that image of his.

(in reply to a clear trolling post)

That's a funny way of looking at it. Pretty sure it's joke at a troll thread.

 

[Windom Earle]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1025623

Haha, wow... That competence.

 

[omonimo]

Funny you should say that, because alot of console GAF ROUTINELY says that.

The console gaf side which people like to give more credit.

 

[Kinthalis]

Not sure if serious.



Except this is not what the article/video shows.

For THIS game it shows it might be outperforming it, at the evry least it's mathcing it. But that hasn't been the story for many games this gen so far.

 

[LCGeek]

Either way, Rockstar seems like they proved their critics wrong. So many expected the PC port to be shoddy, when it's honestly one of the best ever done.

There's nothing wrong with calling out this company on their past performances and wanting them to do better. Expectations are exactly that nothing more.

We all benefitted vs accepting what we have had 4 other games.

I never tire of people making excuses for AMD and for their terrible driver support, trust me, I used to own AMD cards and since switching to Nvidia 4 years ago I have never looked back.

There is a reason AMD are performing so badly in the market and it's not because Nvidia are a "Bigger company" and are "Saturating the market" it's because AMD keep putting out subpar cards with terrible driver support.

Get over it we know there crap anyone who hasn't seen the benchmarks on why owell their own ignorance. This hyperbole is just annoying even with gta5 benchmarks showing they aren't so bad you still whine about other peoples purchasing decisions. Also you mind pointing out what is so terrible instead of merely referring to it cause I doubt you have any real complaints that are relevant to how amd is performing now.

 

[Deadbeat]

Funny you should say that, because alot of console GAF ROUTINELY says that.

Pretty much. I wonder how many people will continue to be in denial on this budget pc beating a ps4.

 

[Windom Earle]

For THIS game it shows it might be outperforming it, at the evry least it's mathcing it. But that hasn't been the story for many games this gen so far.

Yes, for this game. I thought this thread was about GTA5? Also I havent seen any other direct comparisons like this one for other games: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OE2iI7OLh8&feature=youtu.be

And considering how high you are holding the PC flag in this thread, you should know how locked/unlocked framerates work, we simply don't know how the PS4 would perform with an unlocked fps. G-Sync screen + i3 + 750ti would be better I guess, I give you that.

 

[BruceLeeRoy]

Good writeup, but they miss a few things like hi-res shadows, long shadows, AA solutions(including MSAA for reflections) and population/vehicle variety settings.

Honestly, the game feels like it's meant to be played at 4k. It has an abundance of aliasing issues at 1080p, it's still a bit of a sore point even at 1440p, and it's not really until you get to 1800-2160p that it really starts to clean up, and boy does it look amazing when it does. It's a drastic difference. I can play it at 4k/30fps, but I've chosen 1440p/60fps for the performance benefits, but it actually is tempting to go to 4k as it truly does make that much of a difference.

Are you playing it above 1800p 0_o

 

[Kinthalis]

And considering how high you are holding the PC flag in this thread,

Oh, sorry, I didn't know PC gamers weren't allowed to comment without being called out for committing the crime of being PC gamers.

 

[fizzelopeguss]

my shitty £60 1gb 260x (stopgap gpu) runs the game at 1080/30+ with max textures and fxaa. I think the only thing i have turned down is the grass (looks like dithered shit, needs downsampling).

I'm a gig over their VRAM limit, the streaming system seems to be a work of art.

 

[Windom Earle]

Oh, sorry, I didn't know PC gamers weren't allowed to comment without being called out for committing the crime of being PC gamers.

Just don't give us PC gamers a bad name and we're good.

 

[Nozem]

You silly PC gamers don't understand the console warrior mindset.

It's not about having the best graphics. It's about having better graphics than the other console.

 

[Captain Pants]

What sort of performance do we reckon I'd get running this on my laptop at 1080p?

i7 3630qm
GTX 660m
8Gb RAM.

I had the PS4 version and sold it when I got bored (already played the 360 vesion to death), but I've been getting an urge to jump back in. Will likely re-buy the PS4 version as I'm not sure the laptop is up to snuff, but opinons welcomed....

That sounds a lot like my ASUS. I'm getting excellent performance, it just took a lot of tweaks to get there.

I'm at work, so I can't fire it up and write down all of my settings, but if you decide to buy it, PM me and I'll shoot over my configuration. The game looks fantastic. I don't miss the PS4 version one bit.

 

[omonimo]

You silly PC gamers don't understand the console warrior mindset.

It's not about having the best graphics. It's about having better graphics than the other console.

Talking of warrior and their mindset eh.

 

[omonimo]

I've created a visual aid.

Isn't it the typical LOD difference from PC to console? It's not exactly the same thing of the grass gate.

 

[Durante]

Isn't it the typical LOD difference from PC to console? It's not exactly the grass gate.

It's a difference of both density and distance.

But the point is simply to provide a perspective on what I feel like is a rather common standard employed by people to judge whether or not given graphical differences are significant.

 

[Qassim]

The i3 4130/750Ti combo seems like such a great budget setup.

 

[Momentary]

Can't wait to see the differences for The Witcher 3.

 

[omonimo]

It's a difference of both density and distance.

But the point is simply to provide a perspective on what I feel like is a rather common standard employed by people to judge whether or not given graphical differences are significant.

I could wrong but I suspect these differences have more to do with the LOD. By the way why a lot of people here give so much credit to who talk of subtle difference? Why they are became the voice of the console mindset? I have missed the count of the troll post about this thing.

 

[Deadbeat]

Can't wait to see the differences for The Witcher 3.

I expect the PC version to be a somewhat competent console port and nothing more.

 

[heringer]

What about the options in the Advanced Graphics? They don't mention how comparable the console's settings are.

edit: they mentioned it, but didn't specify if consoles have it all off.

 

[Dredd97]

Talking of warrior and their mindset eh.

and all of it delivered without a hint of irony either....

 

[Windom Earle]

I could wrong but I suspect these differences have more to do with the LOD. By the way why a lot of people here give so much credit to who talk of subtle difference? Why they are became the voice of the console mindset? I have missed the count of the troll post about this thing.

Read the article if you want to know about the differences in grass, you are wrong.
PC has an Ultra grass setting that is far superior to the PS4 version. (It comes at a hefty performance price though)

 

[Momentary]

I expect the PC version to be a somewhat competent console port and nothing more.

How about all that NVIDIA tech being added in?

 

[Dredd97]

I expect the PC version to be a somewhat competent console port and nothing more.

Pretty sure the pc version will be a tour De force and the console versions being very good ports of the pc version...

 

[Deadbeat]

How about all that NVIDIA tech being added in?

If the assets are the same across all platforms, adding a few frivolous extras wont change anything.

 

[omonimo]

Read the article if you want to know about the differences in grass, you are wrong.
PC has an Ultra grass setting that is far superior to the PS4 version. (It comes at a hefty performance price though)

Ah well on ultra setting. I though it was a comparison from a PC with comparable performance of the ps4.

 

[etta]

I've created a visual aid.

Ahah this is hilariously true.

 

[rashbeep]

I could wrong but I suspect these differences have more to do with the LOD. By the way why a lot of people here give so much credit to who talk of subtle difference? Why they are became the voice of the console mindset? I have missed the count of the troll post about this thing.

Not just LOD. The PC shots have higher density in the foreground as well.

 

[GifGafIsTheBestGaf]

seeing those benchmarks makes me sad, i guess i need to upgrade my 7970 (good excuse to change the PSU to a full modular one, regret the short cables as a noobie)

So, in the video the i3/750Ti is not 60fps. How is this possible?

lol

EDIT: Rockstar delivering crow for a third consecutive year bluedudewithweights.gif

 

[Windom Earle]

Ah well on ultra setting. I though it was a comparison from a PC with comparable performance of the ps4.

No, it shows what the PC version can look like. No reason to gimp it.

 

[omonimo]

Not just LOD. The PC shots have higher density in the foreground as well.

I understood. I though the screen comparison was made with a comparable rig. Of course a PC can beat easily the ps4 setting, there is a generation of difference if not more.

 

[QuantumZebra]

So, in the video the i3/750Ti is not 60fps. How is this possible?

Still, with something like gsync/freesync it would still be a nice improvement at ~40fps.

lulz