To me, it creates a sense of wishy-washy indecision. He does and says contradictory things because he doesn't care or think about the actions. It's contradiction in personality for the sake of trying to add pathos to a character. It's a tactic I absolutely abhor.
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Fall 2012 Anime |OT| Meet the new world, same as the old world
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To me, it creates a sense of wishy-washy indecision. He does and says contradictory things because he doesn't care or think about the actions. It's contradiction in personality for the sake of trying to add pathos to a character. It's a tactic I absolutely abhor.
Why? They're both fun shows. Really enjoyable to a degree.
hosannainexcelsis
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I think the reason behind it can be explained by an interview with the novel's author:
If the show jumped straight into Saki's world, it'd be easy for the viewer to assume that it was meant to be a fantasy universe with no direct relation to our own. Showing us the modern landscape establishes that, no, it is an envisioned future of our world.
Knowing Dennis's preference in regards to Mass Effect games, he should skip both.
RurouniZel
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I disagree completely. I feel that if this is the case then Akito would come off as a person who is more timid in how he acts and how he makes his decisions. He is quite clear-cut in how he behaves and seems to lack no hesitation at all. This leads me to believe that he has a contradictory sense of beliefs not knowing exactly what to believe, however, he understands that something regardless must be done. He's contradictory in this sense as he does what is demanded of the situation accepting things for what it is rather than being wishy washy.
Jex
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This was an aspect of the show that I didn't actually touch on - the judicious use of the flashback is something worth appreciating. Sometimes you get the feeling that they've been thrown in just to mess-up the chronology of the episode, but in this case they were all tied into the emotional state of the protagonist and, as such, they were justified. It could also be helping them compress a number of events into a single episode, but having not read the source text I can't claim that for sure.
I don't know how to screencap shows so... I don't do it. If yall told me how then I would.
Well I guess we'll see what he does with it. So far this is a pretty radical break and probably closer in line to a fantasy world than an actual possible future.
You aren't wrong and you've picked out the interesting pieces of the OVA, but I think you miss the majority of what the OVA tries to offer, which is terrible in my opinion. The world they set up is interesting, but every character, conflict, and story they are telling within that world are unbelievable and boring.
RurouniZel
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Are you on a Windows PC? Do you have "Snip It"?
Another subject you should probably avoid in the OT.
I can understand people disliking Akito but you dislike Malcal as well? Also, I think the conflict is rather boring because right now it's very general and lacks more emphasis on what exactly the W-0 is setting out to do and where they will end up.
I think wishy washy is the wrong word. I guess what I'm trying to say is, you're putting way more into this than the writers have. Akito only acts the way he does because the plot demands it. He acts in contradictory fashions because the writes want to surround him in some sense of mystery in a desperate attempt to try to make him at least somewhat interesting. He's not a character as much as he is a thinly veiled tool for the writers to throw into whatever situation they choose.
I don't view Akito as simply a plot progressing tool though. It's clear that he's there for a reason. I mean even when he's facing other Japanese, he doesn't even hesitate. There is definitely characterization that is absolutely important and I feel the writers are trying to allude to the deeper nature behind Akito.
It does not make sense!
Does it? Or Does it Not? *sigh*
I never got that from Akito. He's very much a cold individual but he also does seem capable of compassion or atleast kindness to a certain extent.
She's just another "strong" female princess desperately trying to solve the problems her nation faces against incredible odds. It's a character I've seen way too many times to find interesting. Sure, she's a bit more battle smart than most characters of her ilk, but they add very little new to the trope to keep her interesting.
As for the war, this is the the first part of a 4 part series. If you can't give me a reason to care about your conflict or characters, you've failed. The main purpose of this episode should have been to establish some stakes, something I think they've failed completely to do.
Its pretty interesting really. They manage to focus on her in key events during scenes that help develop certain story elements, yet at the same time there's no inner monologues that would normally crop up in anime to explain her feelings on what is happening. As a character she is used to tie together a lot of the scenes of the episode, yet doesn't really have a ton of dialogue to do so. A lot of what we gather from the show is coming from her facial expressions, and actions/reactions to what is happening rather than a ton of dialogue from her as the main character.
Kokoro Connect
Watched up to episode 12 now. Lectures and monologues up everywhere in this bitch. Starting to get sick of those.
I really liked episode 5 but they didn't really continue the themes for that one, and the current "turning-into-kids" arc is even more silly. It's a shame.
Watched up to episode 12 now. Lectures and monologues up everywhere in this bitch. Starting to get sick of those.
I really liked episode 5 but they didn't really continue the themes for that one, and the current "turning-into-kids" arc is even more silly. It's a shame.
I got a strong Setsuna F Seiei vibe from him. Sure there is SOME marginal character trapped inside, but the writers have surrounded him in such a shell of false "mystery" that even when it shines through, it still feels forced and boring.
Jex
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I really thought this would bother me - but it didn't. I didn't actually care for any of the characters, but I didn't really care for many of the characters in Code Geass either. Once I accepted that it was a world filled with ridiculous Code Geass people I stopped caring how painfully exaggerated everyone was. To be fair to the creators of Akito, if people weren't like that then it wouldn't "feel" like a Code Geass work.
The problem comes when you don't have a main characters as powerful as Lelouche.
The thing is that the conflict is about EU's war with Britannia in respect to the Japanese. Sure it's very general right now and you have a right to think they failed. I think the conflict delivery is one of the lacking aspects of OVA1, however, what they sacrificed for world-building is a big thing to me.
RurouniZel
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Don't watch it for the mysteries. You won't last 3 episodes.
It's as Mystery as K-ON is to music and what Nichijou is to comedy.
Dedication Through Light
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As a side story of sorts, I think having someone who is more in line with being more normal at least makes for something interesting for the Code Geass universe. I wasnt hoping he'd be a carbon copy and Akito actually is more battle trained which is good.
what Zel said. watch it for character interactions, the mysteries in most episodes are a waste of time.
At least the mystery is more prevalent than music is...
Except he's not really normal...
More slice of life. Don't go in expecting good mysteries.
I think he has more of a spark compared to Setsuna. For example what he did to that asshole in the party demonstrated he does have a personality. It was pretty humorous in a dark manner but also showed that he does have some basic emotions. I'm also guessing his personal issues are going to be at the forefront in future episodes.
That said, I don't think he's a great character but he's solid so far. Nobody will ever approach Lelouch.
It's find to sacrifice the majority of your premiere for world building when you've got 26+ episodes to work with, but on the scale of a 4-episode OVA, you need every second of content you can get.
With Code Geass, at least I had interesting action to fall back on. I may have hated all the characters and their illogical actions, but at least I could get some nice mech battles. This OVA lacks that completely.
PdotMichael
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well, better no bad music than bad mysteries in your face in all episodes.
Thats cool, I am more of a Slice of Life fan than a Mystery/Detective fan so that is just fine.
Ultimadrago
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Man, people weren't kidding about the drop in quality from episodes 1 and 2.
These have ranged from terribly average to exceedingly boring.
I'll push through, however.
Man, people weren't kidding about the drop in quality from episodes 1 and 2.
These have ranged from terribly average to exceedingly boring.
I'll push through, however.
You'll be rewarded for your patience. Press on, soldier.
I had numerous problems with that scene that precluded me enjoying that bit. It seemed like the writers felt the need to stack more incredible odds against the female lead, that they had to put some incredibly sexist pigs in to up the stakes. The whole thing was so uncomfortable that I was just glad it was over.
As for Lelouch, he's one of my most hated anime protagonists of all time. Almost anything would be an upgrade from him.
Regulus Tera
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I AM A FREE MAN
REJOICE
REJOICE
RurouniZel
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There are better gifs in Hyouka. Come on.
RurouniZel
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Better rejoicing gifs?
Jex
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I actually thought the choreography of the mech battles was pretty cool with some interesting cinematography that clearly took advantage of the the CG models. I wasn't really that bothered by the CG however, as the worlds biggest CG complainer, I wont besmirch you for disliking it.
Hmm.... Probably? LOL I don't know actually.
Sword Art Online - Episode 13
It's all just so monotonous. Removed from the context of what actually happened, the fishing stuff was complete filler too. At least they had the sense to finally dwell on what might be happening in the real world, it's only taken them 2 years!
*sigh*
It's all just so monotonous. Removed from the context of what actually happened, the fishing stuff was complete filler too. At least they had the sense to finally dwell on what might be happening in the real world, it's only taken them 2 years!
*sigh*
Regulus Tera
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Jex
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You could have just skipped the bad ones y'know. Unless you have anime OCD.
Kyoto Animation is going to do the crazy chick and long suffering boy until the end of time aren't they? Well that and alternate between cute girls doing cute things.
Do KEY adaptations count?
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