Zenimax are cheapskates?
Fallout 4 PC Ultra screenshots
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Zenimax are cheapskates?
Amentallica
Unconfirmed Member
Gotta say, those screenshots look nice to me. Obviously there are much better looking open world games out there, but something about this game is attractive to me.
That's the kind of mod I would pay money for. Impressive stuff.
You caught them. Red fucking handed. Those veteran Bethesda developers tasked with creating an entry for a high profile IP just didn't feel like it when it came to the graphics. They just stopped like Forrest Gump in the middle of his three year run across the US.
DrROBschiz
Member
They like budgeted a cross gen game not banking on next gen consoles taking off.
Likely kept everything the same and didnt change gears even when cross gen support was dropped
Could explain why we are only getting modest bells and whistles over the base game
Sarcastico
Member
Why improve something when modders can do it for you for free?
No. Stop it. AAA game devs are anything but lazy. Lazy would be the last possible description I'd use for them, behind "computerphobic" and "indoor hating".
I've long stopped caring too much about visuals. So long as it runs smoothly, has solid art and doesn't look like mud or like it's from 2003, I'm pretty okay with just about anything. That said, this looks fine to me. It's not really a Fallout aesthetic (more like a slightly grungier BioShock Infinite) but it's not like Bethesda was ever going to make a real Fallout game, so...
I have much greater concerns for their character animation than the environments. Not to mention... everything else about the game.
I have much greater concerns for their character animation than the environments. Not to mention... everything else about the game.
SomeOneInaHat
Member
Gemüsepizza
Member
Well they said that the PC version is "unlocked", but what does that mean? You could run Skyrim at 60+ fps in the past, but it seems this resulted in inaccurate physics in the game world (might be an engine limitation?).
And I see that Bethesda may have done the exact same thing with FO4.
OldGangWarily
Member
If you're going to insult someone, at least make sure to spell correctly next time.
Meanwhile in 2009 (ARMA 2, open world game):
I'd much rather them focus more time on the story and optional questlines than work on an air conditioner texture
We will just have to agree to disagree!
DrROBschiz
Member
My positive takeaways are it that its improved over what we had
Outside areas look pretty good in the daylight.
Buildings, large objects, and interiors have varying quality of detail.
Overall im just gonna be happy to play another fallout but i think ive been stern in my criticisms of the visuals
Haunted
Member
Why pay them if they also do the same work for free in their spare time?
That said, while Bethesda (particularly Elder Scrolls) always had a strong mod community, Skyrim's explosive popularity really took that to the next level. It remains to be seen if this will extend to the same degree with Fallout 4.
triplestation
Member
I was at first expecting fallout 4 to look like arma
Dick Justice
Banned
Story and quest designers also work on art and textures now?
Depends on how good the story is. I don't rate their past quality much higher than good air conditioner textures.
Joke, sort of.
DrROBschiz
Member
Seems like a conservative update to their old games but thats just my reaction thus far
orthodoxy1095
Banned
They have no incentive to hire these people because they know there are superfans out there who will invest loads of free time into fixing up the visuals of their game. Win win right there.
DrROBschiz
Member
When the bar is raised people notice.
Why do you think people compare every game to darksouls over the last few years lol
You haven't played a Bethesda game before, have you?
Rushersauce
Banned
If in some you mean project Cars, then yes.
DrROBschiz
Member
Dat cross gen curse
I think this might be the last long term developed AAA game that will carry this moniker
Tal Shiar Agent
Banned
Do we have the recommended specs yet?
triplestation
Member
Are you me???
And also take a profit if the charge for Mods system was in place. More easy revenue!
They have no incentive to hire these people because they know there are superfans out there who will invest loads of free time into fixing up the visuals of their game. Win win right there.
Maybe this is their plan:
Force modders to fix their game for free, so the modders complain about not being paid, so they can reintroduce paid mods.
yeah, I know this is tin foil hat stuff, but someone needed to say it
DrROBschiz
Member
And also take a profit if the charge for Mods system was in place. More easy revenue!
They already shot this down
All mods must be free
KatamariOnTheRocks
Member
I really don't like this narrative that "bethesda hasn't done anything to improve their engine." The thing is that they HAVE made several improvements to the engine. "Barely" is ridiculous even without knowing how the immediate specifics of how they changed underlying tech aside from the obvious huge improvement to lighting, materials and character animation, (yes, it's an improvement, play fallout 3 on 360 or even worse, on ps3). And no that doesn't make me a blind fanboy for thinking so.
See. And I find W3 to be one of the top five best looking games ever lol, (and GOTY).
It's not so much that they've done nothing to improve the engine, but more that they have a free pass from fans to makes as few improvements as possible and regardless of how few they make, it will be an acceptable number to people who say "IDC about grafiks or gamplay I jus want more fallout!!"
And it's OK to want more of a game you love, it's not OK to give a free pass to the people making the game as it will just lead to further homogenization based on previous titles until you get a series like COD which rarely innovates until they finally switched things up with Advanced Warfare.
Don't you want the series you love to improve?
I'm sure you do, and you can still enjoy/respect their work while pushing them to do bigger and better things.
Atomic Playboy
Member
We don't know that's not what trees would look like two centuries after total nuclear annihilation. Maybe trees are no longer able to grow naturally so they gain sentience, develop locomotion and survive by patching themselves with other, weaker trees, forming horrifying Frankenstein hybrids. That's just science, possibly.
How hungover do you think that texture artist was when they put that together and thought "good enough"?
Mhmm, pretty cheesy. A man can dream.
I dislike Bethesda and Zenimax for their hostile takeovers and their modern game output, but responsible AAA development should be commended.
Sarcastico
Member
Isn't it that all third-party mods are free, meaning Bethesda can sell their own mods?
My poor 770
You think the 770 will have issues with the game? It's only the slightest bit below the 780 that the have for the recommended specs. I can't imagine it's going to suffer much at all if you're running around 1080p.
I have a 770 as well and never once felt like it was going to hold me back with Fallout 4.
DrROBschiz
Member
Im sure their investment will pay off
I mean this discussion didnt keep me from buying the game...
I hope i dont regret it. I suppose i fall into the same idea of forgiving consumer.
Its not like im not critical.. Its just that i still see enough merit from the footage to warrant a purchase
thekiddfran
Member
Fingers crossed they do the same for consoles because those screenshots look like shit
BoosterDuck
Banned
Minimum:
OS: Windows 7/8/10 (64-bit OS required)
Processor: Intel Core i5-2300 2.8 GHz/AMD Phenom II X4 945 3.0 GHz or equivalent
Memory: 8 GB RAM
Graphics: NVIDIA GTX 550 Ti 2GB/AMD Radeon HD 7870 2GB or equivalent
Hard Drive: 30 GB available space
Recommended:
OS: Windows 7/8/10 (64-bit OS required)
Processor: Intel Core i7 4790 3.6 GHz/AMD FX-9590 4.7 GHz or equivalent
Memory: 8 GB RAM
Graphics: NVIDIA GTX 780 3GB/AMD Radeon R9 290X 4GB or equivalent
Hard Drive: 30 GB available space
I don't know if these are for 30 fps or 60 fps gameplay