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Famitsu and Media Create Sales: 12/22 - 12/28
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PantherLotus
Professional Schmuck
Unless I missed something, neither gpara nor inside-games.jp have updated yet. Just letting you know I haven't forgotten!
Bearillusion
Banned
So need to hire an advertising company to push LBP in Japan. Not being able to sell 5000 copies per week for such an incredible title is terrible.
Ohhhhhh shit!!!!
LOOK AT PIKMIN GO!
04. [WII] Animal Crossing: City Folk (Nintendo) - 91,000 / 986,000
07. [WII] Mario Kart Wii (Nintendo) - 73,000 / 2,076,000
08. [WII] Wii Fit (Nintendo) - 72,000 / 3,039,000
12. [WII] Wii Sports (Nintendo) - 58,000 / 3,365,000
14. [WII] Wii de Asobu: Pikmin (Nintendo) - 53,000 / 101,000
15. [WII] Karaoke Joysound Wii (Hudson) - 50,000 / 165,000
18. [WII] Taiko no Tatsujin Wii (Bandai Namco) - 37,000 / 288,000
22. [WII] Wii Music (Nintendo) - 30,000 / 354,000
29. [WII] Wii Play (Nintendo) - 25,000 / 2,618,000
Wii Music can't be stopped either. Oh this is too funny sometimes.
LOOK AT PIKMIN GO!
04. [WII] Animal Crossing: City Folk (Nintendo) - 91,000 / 986,000
07. [WII] Mario Kart Wii (Nintendo) - 73,000 / 2,076,000
08. [WII] Wii Fit (Nintendo) - 72,000 / 3,039,000
12. [WII] Wii Sports (Nintendo) - 58,000 / 3,365,000
14. [WII] Wii de Asobu: Pikmin (Nintendo) - 53,000 / 101,000
15. [WII] Karaoke Joysound Wii (Hudson) - 50,000 / 165,000
18. [WII] Taiko no Tatsujin Wii (Bandai Namco) - 37,000 / 288,000
22. [WII] Wii Music (Nintendo) - 30,000 / 354,000
29. [WII] Wii Play (Nintendo) - 25,000 / 2,618,000
Wii Music can't be stopped either. Oh this is too funny sometimes.
legend166 said:
No. The DS one should be -45%, and the PSP +20%, for example.
VerTiGo said:
$30.
Jonnyram said:
That one released at the end of October, but the Wii version has almost caught by the end of its first New Year's season.
PS2 Taiko no Tatsujin: Tatakon de Dodon ga Don @ 1st week of 2003 (~2 months after release) - 310K (743K LTD)
WII Taiko Drum Master Wii @ 1st week of 2009 (~1 month after release) - 288K
The PS2 game was selling 20K a week as late as April 2003. It'd be awesome if sales picked up enough on the Wii for the Wii game to still be selling 20K in April.
PantherLotus
Professional Schmuck
Not sure how much later I can stay up. It's an hour and a half late. I'll give it another 30 minutes.
And advertising wouldn't have helped LBP in Japan.
And advertising wouldn't have helped LBP in Japan.
Congrats to those games that keep on truckin', not just the obvious ones like Rhythm Heaven and Mario Kart Wii, but ones like Taiko Drum Master and Wii de Asobu: Pikmin. It's good to see those latter games getting sales.
Was there a decent push for the Wii de Asobu games in Japan? Because I can see Pikmin doing 200,000, which is really good for essentially a re-release. I wonder how Mario Power Tennis will do.
Was there a decent push for the Wii de Asobu games in Japan? Because I can see Pikmin doing 200,000, which is really good for essentially a re-release. I wonder how Mario Power Tennis will do.
KuwabaraTheMan
Banned
Taiko continues to impress. On the verge of 300,000 and should easily hit 400,000. Kirby is also doing amazingly.
Solid second week for WKC, considering the genre and small userbase.
55,000 after an 84,000 first week is a pretty good drop, especially for an RPG.
Solid second week for WKC, considering the genre and small userbase.
Kandinsky said:
55,000 after an 84,000 first week is a pretty good drop, especially for an RPG.
It's amazing what's happened with Rhythm Tengoku Gold. It's going to end up at over 10x the GBA original's sales.
Also: Girl's Mode is pretty amazing. Word of mouth and DLC > advertising.
Happy to see Joysound trucking along (though hoping the interface is slicker on the WiiWare client when it comes out).
Also: Girl's Mode is pretty amazing. Word of mouth and DLC > advertising.
Happy to see Joysound trucking along (though hoping the interface is slicker on the WiiWare client when it comes out).
It's been on sale for a little over a week for these charts and you are talking about word of mouth. Strong sales at this stage represent strong marketing and very little else. If you want to see how much people are enjoying it, look here: http://www.psmk2.net/title.php?title=400 :lolLightning said:
I can't read a word of Japanese, what does it say?Jonnyram said:
When I read the official thread it seemed mostly positive to me so I just assumed people were enjoying the title.
Other than the Wii Dragon Quest spin off (helped a lot by the name Dragon Quest being in the title), JRPG's have been struggling on consoles in general.icecream said:
Average score: 48/100Lightning said:
Difficulty 1.57 (out of 5)
46 reviews
User rank D
Score chart (all out of 5):
Graphics 3.24
Sound 3.30
Excitement 2.67
Satisfaction 2.28
Comfort of play 2.22
Originality 2.63
I won't read all the reviews, but people say the battles are very unexciting.
Pureauthor
Member
I'm just noticing that the 'BAD' portions seems to be longer than the 'GOOD' portions.
Also: Dollars to donuts this game was rushed out for the season, although it's anyone's guess how much the final quality of the game was affected.
Also: Dollars to donuts this game was rushed out for the season, although it's anyone's guess how much the final quality of the game was affected.
Paracelsus
Member
Jonnyram said:
That's why you usually release games on the bigger userbase out of the three consoles on the market. If it's not the first, the second one. Infact in the States PS3 software sales get crushed mostly 3-to-1 by 360 ones.
Considering we won't see many Jrpg devs on PS360 this gen at all, I'd say that's pretty much inspiring for the ones that already are on the market.
Liabe Brave
Member
I know that's what you were saying, and I disagree about the weight to give its release timing. Holidays certainly fetch bigger numbers, no dispute. But is that inevitable for every game, or do different games perform differently without strong input from the season?donny2112 said:
We can approach that question two ways. First, do games other than WKC also have inflated legs in these weeks? Final Fantasy IV released a calendar week earlier last year, at 308k. Its second and third weeks were 138k and 80k. Yet Pokemon Ranger: Batonnage released in March around the same ballpark (243k), and its second and third weeks were 100k and 56k. That represents virtually the same percentage drops despite the "interruption" of the holiday rush.
The second approach is, do other games released in the same calendar week perform the same? Last year Super Robot Wars OG Gaiden opened at 198k, but fell to 43k for week 2. That represents a 70% difference between it and WKC, despite the nearly identical starts at the same time of year.
A couple individual cases like this isn't a clinching argument, I agree. But it certainly suggests that any link between calendar time and performance is fluid. That there is a holiday effect doesn't necessitate assigning all or even most of a game's sales to the holidays. I believe WKC will probably hit somewhere around 25k next week, and that big drop will be because the holidays are over. That doesn't mean that it couldn't have done worse for itself the past two weeks despite the holiday.
As I said, we can bandy about our guesses as to the reasons for the game's performance curve (I specifically cited this exact thing as something someone might say). That's part of the fun of sales threads. My point was bigger: no matter the reasons, the game itself is the concatenation of them all, and I think we should be careful not to fritter away that unity in plausible but arbitrary slivering of the factors.HK-47 said:
"Why?" questions are more interesting, but "how?" questions are the building blocks of real insight. Basically, sales-age is still awaiting a good multivariate analysis of its data pool.
I was thinking exactly the same thing.donny2112 said:
Whoever calculated these seems to have done the 2007 minus the 2008, then divided that difference by 2008, then switched its positive/negative and turned it into a percentage. Why, I have no idea, but it should have been clear from a quick look at the numbers that 82% is way off.
Kurosaki Ichigo
Member
I can't fully understand how PSP bumps 50k in hardware sales out of nowhere, two weeks after Dissidia. 148k -> 120k -> 169k. Biggest week and all sure, but still kinda weird.
Btw, hardware bundles fuel GT5P over 500k (231k + 284k = 515k).
Oh and my #20 bet is Pawapuro Kun Pocket 11 DS
Btw, hardware bundles fuel GT5P over 500k (231k + 284k = 515k).
Oh and my #20 bet is Pawapuro Kun Pocket 11 DS
test_account
XP-39C²
I guess it depends on how you see it and what you compare it tooschuelma said:YAY Famitsu
Nice bump for PS3 hardware compared to the last few weeks.
Edit- Nevermind. Not that impressive
Within the last year, the PS3 has only had 2 weeks were the hardware sales has been around 70k. The 1st time was almost exactly 1 year ago and the 2nd time was when MGS4 was released.The PS3 did sub-10k numbers not that long ago. But to be fair, this is the holiday season, and Gran Turismo 5 Prologue Spec III is now bundled with most of the PS3s for free, and White Knight Chronicles and Gundam Masou 2 was recently released. That was the case before, so this might have some effect on the hardware sale. The price on the PS3 console itself is however the same now as it was about 1 year ago, as far as i know at least.
So is it impressive for a almost 40,000 yen console to sell around 70k in 1 week in the holiday season, or should more be expected? (genuine question)
Is that 46 reviews from 46 persons or 46 reviews from different magazine, gamesites etc.? If it is 46 persons, then that is 46 persons out of about 276,000 persons (assuming that each person bought a copy of White Knight Chronicles, some people might have bought more than 1 for collection purpose or something). It also says "average score", which means that some of those 46 could have been high, while the other could have been low.Jonnyram said:
EDIT: I now see that there is a graph that shows the percentage of the scores at that site. 52.1% are on the 0-49 point side, and 47.8% are on the 50-100 point side. The highest percentage are on 40-49 points with 21.7% and on 70-79 points with also 21.7%
Based on these reviews it seems to be an relatively average game indeed.I am not saying that these people are wrong or anything, i am sure that there are people who dont like and/or are enjoying White Knight Chronicles, but i wonder how much these 46 people represent the general thought/feelings for people that are playing White Knight Chronicles and if they are enjoying the game or not
Minsc
Gold Member
Pureauthor said:
I was wondering a little about that as well. I just figured I was wrong when I read positive impressions in the official thread, which I guess makes sense when you think about it, as most people posting in official threads are going to be big fans of the game and more likely to overlook flaws.
test_account said:I am not saying that these people are wrong or anything, i am sure that there are people who dont like and/or are enjoying White Knight Chronicles, but i wonder how much these 46 people represent the general thought/feelings for people that are playing White Knight Chronicles and if they are enjoying the game or not
I generally find on sites like mobygames, gamerankings, etc, once you have around 5 or more user reviews (especially over say 25), any ranking is fairly well grounded, more often than not, better than the official reviews. There's almost never been a single instance among hundreds and hundreds of scores that I've seen a rating entirely out of whack, especially not by over 20 or 30 points.
There's always the person who likes or dislikes a genre/game under any circumstances and will argue the average is way off, but as far as a typical gamer, they're extremely reliable in my experience.
Nibelung Valesti
Member
Yay @ ToH over 200k