It wouldn't be a waste of time if you gave me some definition or example of what a masculine game was, then we could discuss whether this game's lack of success in Japan was down to its masculinity or whether other factors were at play. But as you continually refuse to do this lets leave it here.
I already mentioned that there are other factors at play as well, like 80% of Japanese gamers playing on mobile, etc. My point about Japanese entertainment culture bring dominated by unmasculine theme and they role it plays in what games are purchased there still stands.
To be honest, I think this is a conversation you should be having on a therapists couch rather than a videogame forum.
You must be really bored if all you can add to conversion is a sly dig.
Let's look at some sales charts in some western countries then. If we say that 0 of the best selling games in Japan in March have masculine themes, which of the below games count as having masculine themes? Then we can compare.
I counted the Wii U because it was at least HD but maybe you're right. The last real traditional console was the Game Cube.
I like how you snuck in German chart that's similar to Japanese chart lol. Sorry dude, I'm not taking the bait.Let's look at some sales charts in some western countries then. If we say that 0 of the best selling games in Japan in March have masculine themes, which of the below games count as having masculine themes? The we can compare.
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How did I "sneak" it in? I put in two countries which recently gave us monthly data and labelled them very clearly. Its not bait, its data.
It's not really a dig..just a bit of banter. Apologies if it caused offense.
It was simply an observation, no different then talking about effect of western culture of "inclusivity and representation" on sales and purchases.
Just give me your masculine examples instead of dodging.
Not interested after some people in this thread said Mario games are masculine. I'm not interested in getting into this knowing this is what some people think here.
See now this is what makes me think that therapist couch maybe not a bad idea after all. Why is this such an issue for you?
Why do you have a problem with me stating something that's factually correct? I wasn't the one that brought up Mario being masculine, I simply rejected that notion because it's incorrect. Are you having Mario issues yourself? Does he make you masculine? Am I offending masculine Mario?
Lol. That's my idea of rejecting western idea of what some videogame developers think femininity is. It's a slight exaggeration of course.Is this your idea of masculinity?
Well, that's just your definition.
See, and you wanted to get into it, lol.
I didn't expect someone who preaches so much about masculinity can't even come out with some examples instead of scouring like a little bitch dodging, empty quoting at that.
I've seen enough ridiculousness here when it comes to people's idea of what masculinity is, I don't need it from you as well. Go seek attention elsewhere. The only little bitch here is you, throwing insults over a same comfort of internet and all.
You are only one here generalizing just because it doesn't fit your personal "masculinity". To me it feels like you are trying too hard to sound "mature" but its having opposite effect.
Why would I wanna talk about masculinity with people that think kiddie games like Mario, Pokémon and Animal Crossing are masculine. Seriously.
Who the fuck gives about which game is "masculine"? I don't play games to feel "masculine", I play games to enjoy myself.
If you don't care then don't comment. I don't get people like you that get heavily into discussion and then say "who cares". You obviously cared enough to keep commenting. If you don't care then you can easily ignore comments like mine. If you are past that age then that's good for you, sorry that I don't have a medal for you.
You miss my point there, majority of people who are in to video games play games to enjoy not to feel "manly".
I didn't say people play games to feel manly, lol. I said Japanese entertainment culture is unmasculine in many regards, which likely plays a role (among other factors) on type of games that are popular there. Look, we're just going around in circles and you obviously don't care about this like you said, so let's just give it a rest.
I said this before, you are just generalizing based on what you personally consider "masculine".
That's the problem here, everyone seems to have their own idea of what masculinity is, which is not what I believe in (something I stated earlier) and therefore there's no point in discussing this topic any further. How many times must I state this?
Your so call "criticism" is about Japanese games don't feel "manly" enough for you.
I know you wanna spin it that way so you can attack me personally and not deal with the subject itself, but it has nothing to do with me. It's like saying criticism towards women being masculine in western videogames means I'm afraid of strong women or something. This is a typical tactic people use, seen it all before. You already said you don't care, why you keep going? I find people like you very strange.
What I find strange that you generalize them unmasculine just because they play animal crossing & Mario games, which in west they also play animal crossing and Mario games and most popular games in west is mostly Fortnite and Mindcraft.
In other parts of the world mature games sell well along with games like Mario and Animal Crossing, something you can't really say for Japan generally speaking.
Oh yes fighting giant monsters is so girly, what was I thinking!?
It's not about that, it's about characters in the game, lol. I seriously think you don't get it, which makes this whole argument even more ridiculous. You probably think K-pop band lookalikes in FF15 are masculine because they fight monsters, etc. By that logic we can say a game about Barbie fighting dinosaurs is masculine.. Seriously dude, I'm done here. This is why I see no benefit discussing this topic.
Then say it, what games that feel masculine enough for you, which also sold better elsewhere. Let's see how much of a clown you are.
I see you're back with personal insults... Was it so painful that you were being ignored that you started to act like a little bitch? Like I said, go seek attention elsewhere, child, I care not what your immature self thinks about this.
Lol, we wouldn't have to be in this discussion if you are actually mature and not coming out with this kind of bullshit in the first place. Your narrative has been flawed from the start; you can't even come out with a single example because you know you're fooling yourself by going into the rabbit hole.
You talking about maturity yet were the one who started to resort to personal attacks and insults. Oh wow, how mature of you, you hypocrite. Why would I wanna have discussion about anything with immature clown like you? Stop looking for attention, I have no care for you or your opinions.
Yes, yes keep dodging. Relax, when I'm wasting my time dealing with trolls, I need to accompany it with some jabs so that it's worth my time. What about you? Feeling good about your masculinity already? What games have you played recently that strike up your testosterone rate?
You're a wate of time. Ignored.
Trolls acting like they're the ones being trolled. Good luck with the masculinity pursuit my dude.
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