Bluekaveli
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February Wrasslin' |OT| Observe THIS, Brother!
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excelsiorlef
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Well I think they could have saved him post Rumble 2015 but they kept digging instead.
Side note is Bray Wyatt the only guy to really survive a Cena feud?
whatevermort
Member
Hang on. That's Cena's Mania match? A tag team with Nikki? (Against, I'm assuming, Nattie and... Dolph?)
Sweeney Tom
Banned
I'm assuming it'll be against Miz and Maryse. Originally supposed to be against Dean and Renee but Renee still needs a ton more training before she's ever really able to do even a passable match.
excelsiorlef
Member
whatevermort
Member
Ughhhhhhhhhhh
I actually feel bad for the Miz. I recognise that Vince will put this high on the card for reasons, but the Miz has been working very hard this year, and I really think he's deserving of a chance to put on a showcase.
Obviously, the whole card is looking like it's going to be dismal, so I shouldn't be surprised.
UberTag
Member
How about The Miz wins the World title at Elimination Chamber and defends it against Corbin at Mania?
Oh wait... Orton won the Rumble. So much for that idea.
Well, I suppose there's always the prospect of a football season championship run for Miz.
He'd still have had to go through Bryan at some point and the crowd would have turned on him then while getting sick of the mega push.
No need to feel sorry for Roman though. He said in an interview he likes it and it doesn't look like the push will ever stop regardless.
excelsiorlef
Member
Lol I would really love to know what possessed them to book Daniel Bryan to have such an early and undramatic exit from the 2015 Rumble. It's so meaningless I forgot how early it was until rewatching it today.
Did they hope that getting it over with early would give fans time to get behind Roman? Lol
Maybe. Or they could have done a Bret/Luger finish since they had a Reigns/Bryan match for the title opportunity the next month anyway. Or had Bryan win it in controversial fashion and then hold up the title opportunity until the next month ppv match.
Or just hold his return until the next night
Did they hope that getting it over with early would give fans time to get behind Roman? Lol
Maybe. Or they could have done a Bret/Luger finish since they had a Reigns/Bryan match for the title opportunity the next month anyway. Or had Bryan win it in controversial fashion and then hold up the title opportunity until the next month ppv match.
Or just hold his return until the next night
Into the Light
Banned
Lol
Seth "I'm going to show up at your house and beat/murder your children" Rollins is a face?
Is there such a thing as a face anymore if he qualifies?
excelsiorlef
Member
And held a gun to Vince's head (turned out to be fake but still)
Everything Vince did with that Rumble was his insanely out-of-date method to get Roman over. I often wonder why they put Bryan in the Rumble (since he wasn't going to win) as you have to believe most of the staff knew it would backfire spectacularly.
Because the event was booed for Bryan not being in it at 2014, so if he wasn't going to win, they felt they had to get him out early. There were going to be boos regardless with Bryan not winning and Roman winning.
excelsiorlef
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It's also a myth that it was just Daniel Bryan that the fans wanted.
Fans were behind Dolph Ziggler until they dropped him unceremoniously... they were also behind Ambrose.
Fans were behind Dolph Ziggler until they dropped him unceremoniously... they were also behind Ambrose.
Right, because anyone but Roman at that point. Like this year, Heath Slater would have got that Randy pop if he eliminated Roman.
excelsiorlef
Member
They were behind Ziggler because of his Survivor Series work and feuding with Show/Kane and the Authority. Which is funny because those two were booked dominant to make Reigns eliminating them a huge pop moment which would have worked... for Ziggler
It killed the match though. Crowd was hot until then.
If you're gonna kill the match do it at the end at least. Or like I said do a Bret/Luger or some sort of finish that gets you out if Philly at least with cheers
They legit thought there were going to be cheers at the end though and there probably was more chance of that than Bryan being eliminated near the end. FORGET ABOUT BRYAN, DA BIG DAWG WINS
excelsiorlef
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They legit thought there were going to be cheers at the end though and there probably was more chance of that than Bryan being eliminated near the end. FORGET ABOUT BRYAN, DA BIG DAWG WINS
I mean they're fucking idiots for that. And clearly they knew the boos were likely because The Rock was literally there to try to mitigate that.
HashtagLapsed
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It seems crazy to me they expected cheers for that.
How xan a company like this by see totally blind to their audience.
How xan a company like this by see totally blind to their audience.
No, you take that back! he was there because he's FAMILY.
Nah, I honestly thing they thought there would be cheers, but then EVEN MORE cheers because he's with The Rock! And that would send him on a dreamy rocketship to the moon with the most awesome pairing since PB and jam
jelly for you yanks.
Sir_Crocodile
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Man, the Miz was superb on commentary. Put over the match, elimination chamber, the guys, shot on otunga.
I really hope if it's not AJ or someone from NXT, Miz gets the Cena match.
I really hope if it's not AJ or someone from NXT, Miz gets the Cena match.
excelsiorlef
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I think Lilian had a stroke introducing the Royal Rumble 2016 match lol
Conrad Link
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The fact that they had Dwayne lined up to run out there and save Reigns from the boos is like one of the saddest things I've ever seen in wrestling.
And it didn't even work lol.
They knew it was gonna happen so they planned ahead to try and 'save' it, the fact that you need to do this much crap to try and save face maybe is a f**king clue you're going the wrong way. :|
Dwayne's face during the boos will forever be one of the most memorable moments of this terrible MAKE ROMAN LOOK STRONG era in my eyes.
If they put as much effort into the general booking and story telling as they do with trying to get Reigns over maybe things wouldn't be so shitty.
And it didn't even work lol.
They knew it was gonna happen so they planned ahead to try and 'save' it, the fact that you need to do this much crap to try and save face maybe is a f**king clue you're going the wrong way. :|
Dwayne's face during the boos will forever be one of the most memorable moments of this terrible MAKE ROMAN LOOK STRONG era in my eyes.
If they put as much effort into the general booking and story telling as they do with trying to get Reigns over maybe things wouldn't be so shitty.
He was still a heel. That was pre-Bret feud.
excelsiorlef
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I will say if and this is such a massive if but if they really pull the trigger on a Reigns heel turn we might look back at this as a fascinating 2-3 year period. If the heel turn is as good as it has potential to be, Roman Reigns is a talented wrestler and his matches aren't bad, he could end up being a massively over star in a couple of years and part of that will be because of what they've done with him since the Shield split.
But those are massive ifs... and until it works out, if it works out, the way they've pushed him will remain baffling because god knows they didn't do any of this with heel turn in mind.
excelsiorlef
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"Fuck you all"
...Then the face was the one with the gun?
HazySaiyan
Banned
I can't even be mad anymore, this is fucking hilarious.
excelsiorlef
Member
I mean yeah if they're gonna give him the title bell ring, spear, jackhammer 1,2,3 is how they have to do it.
Now does that match need the title is a different story.
Professor Beef
Banned
Why would it make any sense for KO to last longer than Lesnar?
"Everyone loved Survivor Series. Do it 100 more times."
There is literally no other way they could do this. Goldberg can't fucking work and destroyed the kayfabe biggest dog in the WWE in seconds, you think coward heel Kevin Owens would get anything more than 5 seconds against the greatest pro wrestler to ever live ever Goldberg?
Yup. The alternative, and preferable for me, would be to not book the match.
HazySaiyan
Banned
Be better off not doing the match at all.
excelsiorlef
Member
Frankly Jericho should have won the Rumble causing those two to have a natural split over the belt.
Lesnar vs Goldberg gets set up some other way.
Orton vs Wyatt gets set up via Orton turning on Wyatt after the chamber match, revealing his plan and now going into Mania against a mentally weakened Bray. He didn't need the rumble win to set this up.
But Lesnar/Goldberg is going to be for the title so Squash Owens Squashed it is, which for that story is what they have to do.
I will say getting squashed by Goldberg isn't the end of the world, it's fucking Goldberg. Owens won't have his career ruined over that and frankly getting beat quickly by Goldberg is a better way to lose it than losing to Rollins or Reigns in match, even one as good as the one at the Rumble.
Lesnar vs Goldberg gets set up some other way.
Orton vs Wyatt gets set up via Orton turning on Wyatt after the chamber match, revealing his plan and now going into Mania against a mentally weakened Bray. He didn't need the rumble win to set this up.
But Lesnar/Goldberg is going to be for the title so Squash Owens Squashed it is, which for that story is what they have to do.
I will say getting squashed by Goldberg isn't the end of the world, it's fucking Goldberg. Owens won't have his career ruined over that and frankly getting beat quickly by Goldberg is a better way to lose it than losing to Rollins or Reigns in match, even one as good as the one at the Rumble.