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Damn, I would have hoped for more polish considering how long its been in development.
I don't think I've ever had too many issues with XBLA games now that I think about it. Beyond Good Evil gave me a freeze on a certain section and I had to come back at a later time. Castle Crashers save deal was fixed by the time I bought it.
Based on my and Rlan's positions on the leaderboards (I'm tied for fifth in the world, he's tenth), our reviews should be definitive, as far as I'm concerned. We can see other reviewer's positions...Jim Sterling only hit 103.9%. = D
Shadow Hog
Member
...103.9% out of what? o0
GarthVaderUK
Banned
Nice!
A lot more.
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
Review is the disgusting over-written fare with an agenda Edge has sadly been known for a while. Painful to read. Really wish they'd start tacking names to reviews.
Good to know theres a little meat on the games bones beyond super basic platforming though.
Rolling eye emoticons never big enough.
Good to know theres a little meat on the games bones beyond super basic platforming though.
Phonomezer
Banned
Man I am late to this message but I PMed you about the 2 things I know.
You had a bug up your ass in this thread. Why does this game get you so riled up?
Zeouterlimits
Member
Excellent, a good read.
He has been the same in other recent Fez threads, ignore him.
Auto_aim1
MeisaMcCaffrey
He was positive on Twitter as well. Glad to see the great scores.
Thanks for the title change, it should be implied anyways especially since it was old, misquoted shit anyways, or the usual straight-up port begging.
Anyways, I don't need a review from someone else for a game I know I want. The only things I need to know is if the game will break my Xbox or something. I know what I like, I never needed anyone to tell me what to buy.
I have been reading up about the technical issues with the game which are unfortunate, luckily there hasn't been anything game-breaking, and I haven't bought a game in this genre since Braid, so I'm going all-in on this one. Been waiting for ages, and it's finally almost here.
Anyways, I don't need a review from someone else for a game I know I want. The only things I need to know is if the game will break my Xbox or something. I know what I like, I never needed anyone to tell me what to buy.
I have been reading up about the technical issues with the game which are unfortunate, luckily there hasn't been anything game-breaking, and I haven't bought a game in this genre since Braid, so I'm going all-in on this one. Been waiting for ages, and it's finally almost here.
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
that lies more with how bile inducing I find EDGE to be these days than Fez. I looked forward to Fez from the outset so will be picking it up Friday despite finding its creator arrogantly disconnected from reality. Hopefully these puzzles are clever stuff rather than just obtuse so the game has something to offer beyond a somewhat tired retro indie pixel parade. I enjoy being surprised.
Edit: nm, thanks!
103% means he basically didnt resolve any of the "harder" puzzles.
thats not enough to write up a review IMO, but what the fuck do I know !
I wonder if Brad is reviewing it. He seemed to be the one most salivating over the game. He tends to mention technical difficulties in his reviews which is good.
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
You are completely right, now that I think about it. There was no manual control over the world turning in that game, it was automated, so I can see how it will open up the possibility for a more puzzle based approach here.
IdreamofHIME
Member
So is more a platform in the classic sense or open world like Metroidvania?
Every site seems to be split on how they're describing the game, getting me confused.
Every site seems to be split on how they're describing the game, getting me confused.
sixteen-bit
Member
Awesome thread title well overdue.
It's pretty blunt and to the point lol
103% completion does not indicate any lack of content exploration. He could have technically explored all of the hardest puzzles, and ignored the easier yellow cube collection areas.
At this point it's entirely speculation. You only need 32 cubes to beat the game -- whether they were yellow or blue is irrelevant. You essentially need to explore most of the game to obtain said cubes anyway.
At this point it's entirely speculation. You only need 32 cubes to beat the game -- whether they were yellow or blue is irrelevant. You essentially need to explore most of the game to obtain said cubes anyway.
Not at all. To me, and many others in the community, it feels like the end of the Second Wave of mainstream independents that emerged in 2008. It's very gratifying and simultaneously freeing, and I'm sure those that've been living in the shadow of these massive games for the last three or four Independent Game Festivals would agree.
With all due respect, most of the anticubes are orders of magnitude more difficult than yellow cubes. The harder puzzles aren't just harder; they're nearly a completely different game. I have
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Arthr2ShdsJcksn
Banned
I feel like I've been waiting for this game forever, so much so that I forgot that it was coming out so soon. I finally have use for that 1600pt card I bought at Christmas.
Yea I'm familiar with the anticube puzzles, having played the game. However, I'm just saying that a flat percentage doesn't indicate automatically that he obtained no anticubes. He even notes in the review that the anticube (? area) puzzles are utterly different from the yellow cube part of the game.
Personally, I think it's basically two games in one. You can choose to play the game primarily as a puzzle title [blue], or primarily as a platformer [yellow]. I don't think anyone is "wrong" for playing it either way, as long as you *mention* it is possible to do this (as he did). /respectful rant
the one you told me about in PM or is there a worse one ? lol
Yea I'm familiar with the anticube puzzles, having played the game. However, I'm just saying that a flat percentage doesn't indicate automatically that he obtained no anticubes. He even notes in the review that the anticube (? area) puzzles are utterly different from the yellow cube part of the game.
Personally, I think it's basically two games in one. You can choose to play the game primarily as a puzzle title [blue], or primarily as a platformer [yellow]. I don't think anyone is "wrong" for playing it either way, as long as you *mention* it is possible to do this (as he did). /respectful rant
You actually have to grab a few anticubes to beat the game, as several cube bits aren't obtainable without doing anticube stuff anyway.
I agree with you, though. I'll be able to go into a lot more detail in my review on Friday. But I feel confident in saying that I'll be able to better speak on the other half of the game.
I took it to mean the culmination of a movement, rather that some substantive ideal made of imaginary building blocks. Regardless, Andy Schatz is incredibly intelligent and articulate, I'm sure he knew what he was going for when typing up that comment. : )
That's what I'm confused by: "a movement." There have always been indie games, long before these recent guys, and it wasn't so much a movement as it was a group of people that happened to be in the right place at the right time to ride the rise of Steam, XBLA and iOS platforms which allowed them to get in front of more people. I find it a bit full of itself. There is nothing inherently groundbreaking about the actual games we're talking about here, just the circumstances around them due in part to good fortune.
Phonomezer
Banned
:/
Too difficult? It's hard to know what he's referring to?
Jeff is notoriously bad at games, despite the fact that he's very learned when it comes to the history of them.
As someone who also played it, I sort of understand what he's talking about, but not really.
The game clearly tells you that you need 32 cubes to beat the game, so there's no "guessing" involved. Once you approach a high amount of cubes, and have saturated the easy ones, you just need to sit down and actually *figure* things out every so often because it is part puzzle game -- my guess is he's just realizing that it's not entirely a platformer, having mostly gotten yellow cubes.
Beating the game is not hard (which is what Jeff is talking about - "the end"). Getting all 64 cubes is utterly challenging.
It's weird to get to a brick wall before the end of the game.... the "normal" walkthrough is pretty easy, and if you are stuck somehwere there are so many other places to explire...
To be fair, there are a few areas that are really inconspicuous, but then open up to GIANT new areas.
But if you simply play the game and have a basic understanding of how puzzles work, you will have no issue completing the game when it comes to the bare minimum requirements. Basically he just wants instant gratification without having to work for it
bestpersonevar
Member
Will this be up @ midnight Thursday night?
I want to see Cabin In The Woods at midnight and then get home and play this the rest of the night.
I want to see Cabin In The Woods at midnight and then get home and play this the rest of the night.
Personally, I think it's streets ahead of Braid. With Braid, you followed a linear set of stages, and were required to do everything Jonathan Blow wanted you to do. I had similar moments with both games where I had that "puzzle grin" on my face, when I realized how to do a certain task.
But IMO, Fez far exceeds Braid in the sense that you can pretty much play the game the way you want to play it. If you don't want to be in a certain area, you don't have to be -- you can go explore a new area, or just do a bunch of puzzles. Conversely, you basically don't have to do any complex puzzles to beat the game. To me, that's the biggest improvement.
IIRC Xbox Live updates around 5-6AM EST for content deployment every week.
Don't want to derail too much here, but how bad? I mean, I hope he doesn't just suck, but on the flipside, I sometimes have a very hard time relating to reviewers who are just gifted at games and don't find anything difficult.