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[Sixfortyfive]

Full disclosure: I usually am only interested in the lore of MK as opposed to playing it. Not that I think MK is a bad series, but it's not for me.

That being said, pre-order characters are something I can't really get mad over unless the characters are specific retailer-exclusive. Then it just stops making sense.

I loathe pre-order characters for the same reason why I loathe DLC in general: they have an expiration date.

R.I.P. Jill and Shuma.

 

[Nyoro SF]

As someone from a Smash background who loves doing dumb shit involving items on his downtime, I knew what the payoff was going to be but I was not expecting the technical limits to make the moment that much sweeter. Frame drops on explosions are still the most hype shit ever. Shoutouts to bob-omb only matches at double knockback values in Smash 64. :lol

Yes.

YES.

Best parts of MvC2 watching at my local arcade is when someone does a triple DHC and we got dat slowdown. PUSHED TO THE ABSOLUTE LIMIT

 

[Dahbomb]

Yeah actually it's pretty mean but oh well.

Every outspoken woman or LGBT member gets an r/kappa post at some point.

Did not know you were a woman or LGBT until this post.

 

[Professor Beef]

I loathe pre-order characters for the same reason why I loathe DLC in general: they have an expiration date.

R.I.P. Jill and Shuma.

"Jill" and Shuma weren't exactly setting the charts on fire, so I've got no tears for them. I do understand your point though.

 

[ThatCrazyGuy]

I only play MK for the lore and SP modes as well.

 

[AAK]

In case no one sees the TTT2 OT I'm just posting this here. NinthPixel is holding weekly PSN Tournaments for TTT2 restricted to GAF members in the North American Region. It's free entry and the winner gets a $10 PSN code. Check this post if any of you guys are interested. I can't make Thursdays unfortunately so hope whoever's interested has fun

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=147461174&postcount=637

 

[Azure J]

Just play Ky/Sol/Elphelt and watch those wins accumulate

DansGame

 

[CountBlack]

Gonna buy Ultra for 360 today, holla

Can I give you this work?


I finally watched the video with volume..

 

[BumblebeeCody]

Dammit I've been meaning to catch up on fighting games what with going back to Killer Instinct. Wow 10 pages behind on FGW and I didn't watch Canada cup.
I guess I'll see what's happening this we-

Usual reaction to FGC tournament drama.

Mmmm. The bans!?

"Jill" and Shuma weren't exactly setting the charts on fire, so I've got no tears for them. I do understand your point though.

And you need the practice against them

 

[mbpm1]

DansGame

"Is Sol a weak character"

 

[Azure J]

Some anime tourney/weekly should use that as a transition clip

It somehow reminds me of that old Skillionaires thing.

Edit: I just did it myself in training mode and got the "Guaranteed To Blow Your Mind" trophy as a result.

a y y l m a o

 

[rookiejet]

As someone from a Smash background who loves doing dumb shit involving items on his downtime, I knew what the payoff was going to be but I was not expecting the technical limits to make the moment that much sweeter. Frame drops on explosions are still the most hype shit ever. Shoutouts to bob-omb only matches at double knockback values in Smash 64. :lol

Yes.

YES.

Best parts of MvC2 watching at my local arcade is when someone does a triple DHC and we got dat slowdown. PUSHED TO THE ABSOLUTE LIMIT

Have you guys played Bangai-O by any chance?

Edit: Some more nonsense

 

[Sixfortyfive]

Have you guys played Bangai-O by any chance?

lol.

The whole point of those games is to bring the console to its knees as it fails to render whatever nonsense is happening on screen.

So good.

 

[Azure J]

Have you guys played Bangai-O by any chance?

Nope but I'm kinda interested now. lol

 

[BumblebeeCody]

Have you guys played Bangai-O by any chance?

Edit: Some more nonsense

No but it looks awesome!

 

[Cosmo Clock 21]

Bangai-O turns frame drops from object spawning into an art form lol

 

[Silky]

Yo mahvel

 

[BumblebeeCody]

Yo mahvel

WTF. Did anyone read that in MvC3 Spiderman voice (subconsciously)!? Right down to the Maximuuum Spideeeeer!
What a mind fuck.

 

[enzo_gt]

Yo mahvel

they didn't even use the proper earth designation

amateurs

 

[DryEyeRelief]

WTF. Did anyone read that in MvC3 Spiderman voice (subconsciously)!? Right down to the Maximuuum Spideeeeer!
What a mind fuck.

I read it in Marvel vs Capcom 1 spider man's voice


edit: fuck now it's marvel 3

 

[Beckx]

So how many projects does Harada have on the fire now?

Pokken
Tekken 7
Wii U exclusive F2P/co-op game
Virtual Reality thing

 

[ShinMaruku]

Just play Ky/Sol/Elphelt and watch those wins accumulate

I just downloaded Elphelt and I don't even have the game yet. :E

 

[A Pretty Panda]

they didn't even use the proper earth designation

amateurs

How do you fuck that up?

 

[Professor Beef]

And you need the practice against them

Maybe against Shuma since he has a weird hitbox, but I've never had too much trouble fighting either of them.

When they would actually be used by someone, that is.

 

[Dahbomb]

Yo mahvel

It's time.

Pokken
Tekken 7
Wii U exclusive F2P/co-op game
Virtual Reality thing

Tekken x SF

 

[ShinMaruku]

they didn't even use the proper earth designation

amateurs

Actually they did because that's the Marvel in the Marvel games. 616 is NOT the marvel in the marvel games.

 

[Silky]

It's time.

Surely the patch is among us, friends

 

[Malice215]

I'm praying to the old gods and the new that the netcode and the PC port for MKX isn't hot ass. Game looks amazing.

 

[enzo_gt]

Actually they did because that's the Marvel in the Marvel games. 616 is NOT the marvel in the marvel games.

Yeah, but the one that is is called Earth-TRN177.

Spoiler

Though looking into it more, I'm not even sure where that designation originated.

 

[ShinMaruku]

Exactly why you can't give them shit for that designation when it exists precisely for things like that. :E

 

[A Pretty Panda]

Earth-Nopatch

 

[kasane]

Why was firebathero the goat on last page

 

[ShinMaruku]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EL_nlcD9c0
I tell you, Ayane is too good. You guys missin out on da boobies.

 

[Professor Beef]

Earth-Nopatch

Great, now you went and made Dahpreorder and CandiedYams think there's an Earth with a patch.

 

[Azure J]

Earth-Nopatch

Is this also the universe where ASW games are main event, Capcom fighters are the anime outcasts and people talk about how "Melee's lack of combos and infinite air dodges" were better than Brawl and 4's wavedashing?

 

[Professor Beef]

Is this also the universe where ASW games are main event, Capcom fighters are the anime outcasts and people talk about how "Melee's lack of combos and infinite air dodges" were better than Brawl and 4's wavedashing?

Someone kerplode that Earth.

 

[MiniBossBattle]

Patches Among Us.

 

[DiscoShark]

Well today's been eventful.

 

[Osu 16 Bit]

What a great redesign! Did she got any other hurricane/wind moves besides the one shown in the trailer? Music was pretty nice too.

Maybe...I can't reveal anything...I can't wait till everyone sees more of her and her variants.

 

[DunpealD]

Yup lol, dem premature pop offs..

Don't forget the classic Wolfkrone vs Ricky Ortiz at UFGT8(rip UFGT. Thanks Keits)

While we are talking about pop-offs. I wonder how PR Balrog vs. Mihe would be taken today.

http://i.imgur.com/58MU0Uz.jpg

Yo mahvel

You forgot the most important part... the ending:

RIP. MvC.

 

[Anne]

Did not know you were a woman or LGBT until this post.

One of the r/kappa posts is specifically after that which is why I mentioned it. I know I sound vague but honestly I just say general things cause I notice them, . Harassment is a problem. Many LGBT and female friends of mine have had trouble in the AFGC that relates directly to those things. Pop offs get too wild, peoples feelings get hurt, there are actually more dangerous things to happen. I get those sentiments out there because that all it is. "you're so vague about the fact that these things are general problems" is a criticism I get, but I don't like it because I leave things vague as to deal with the overarching problem, not one specific incident :T

Idk why I try though, I'm sure this is just another vague post lol I guess in the future I'll just name everybody and give out the details to make sure justice is served to the boogymen of the FGC. I try to go about it differently.

Edit: Tbf a lot of you guys probably don't know about the entire social sphere that goes on around the entire scene outside of events. Lots of stuff!

 

[AAK]

So how many projects does Harada have on the fire now?

Pokken
Tekken 7
Wii U exclusive F2P/co-op game
Virtual Reality thing

Rise of Incarnates

Tekken X SF is hopefully cancelled but I doubt it.

 

[Xevren]

I'm praying to the old gods and the new that the netcode and the PC port for MKX isn't hot ass. Game looks amazing.

You and me both, well for the netcode that is. God I hope they have better online...

 

[JeTmAn81]

Yeah, but the one that is is called Earth-TRN177.

Spoiler

Though looking into it more, I'm not even sure where that designation originated.

Wat. There is already a number assigned to the MvC universe!?

 

[Silky]

Earth-Nopatch

If this isn't next week's thread title Enzo ain't shit

 

[Master Milk]

Maybe...I can't reveal anything...I can't wait till everyone sees more of her and her variants.

have you decided which one you're going to use mainly? gonna use multiples?

 

[Kadey]

There should be a Sanrio X Namco.

 

[Coffeeling]

Whoa, talk about a storm here
Want to comment on some things, second some things, will be long-ish, sorry.

FGW | Real Talk, Real Bans
FGW | Bodied
FGW | FGW Got Bodied

Vaguely commenting about "real criticisms" and then brushing it off with "whatever" is poor form. I'm all for criticism, but it needs to be constructive.

This. Concrete = good.

So tournament should be unsafe spaces? Way to grow a community.

Unsafe and occasionally uncomfortable are very different things. Please do not conflate the two.

I think one of the best life lessons competitive environments provide is how to deal with absolute, embarrassing and/or crushing failure.

The world is not your oyster, you only deserve what you work for and no one is obliged to feel sympathy for your loss.

This deserves a requote.

Sucks that AnneIFrank is pushing blame on the victim (Shinblade).

Shinblade has nothing to be shameful of.

I wholeheartedly agree with this.

You can't look at this shit in such a negative way, because that's not the reality that's being shown in videos and stream archives.

Yeah, the whole thing just comes across as moral grandstanding.

This as well.

Sorry if me saying that things like this are an actual problem being found "silly" is something that pisses me the fuck off.

From the other side:
Sorry if trying to stifle other people just in case other people may be offended by it is something that pisses me the fuck off.

The question is: does your right to see value in it trump the rights of some others to feel comfortable participating in events?

Yes. It absolutely does. You see, demanding comfort for some people is at the same time an imposition on other people's comfort, on their ability to express themselves naturally. You end up stifling these people.

Offending someone with an action not aimed at that person - ie. just having someone take offense at what you're doing - is something we have basically no control over. You let people getting offended or uncomfortable make the rules turns taking offense into a tool of control, a way to gain power over a social situation and people can and will flock to it like flies. You get one problem sorted, someone gets offended at something different, and suddenly we're in a bona fide circus from Hell. It's impossible to stop people being offended or distraught, especially if they've made up their mind to be so.

Furthermore, these rules don't actually erase the anger and tension - they simply force a superficial harmony by forbidding a direct, blunt resolution to things that is the natural way for some people to work in favour of the method you and your friends personally find more palatable. It doesn't hide the emotional barbarian inside people, it just chains him and makes him angry.

Moreover, you need bad things for there to be good things. There is no win-win deal, but I value the freedom to be myself infinitely more than being bossed around by people telling me to not be this and not be that. The price is occasional discomfort, but it's one I and many others are quite willing to pay.

Those highly controlled environments feel markedly more uncomfortable because you constantly have to have a filter on and almost monitor your every damn word. It's stressful. Even if I don't usually express myself with the same exuberance and boisterousness of the typical FGC popoff, harsh moderation of behavior makes me feel like that. Without it, I'm free to be me, and let the barbarian shout what he has to say on the rare occasion he wants to do it.

Right now, I'm kind of stressed by the thought of Shouta's banhammer, but decided to say "fuck it" and say my peace because being obsessively correct is just not worth it.

This is the core problem: People demanding that kind of forced harmoniousness speak of things just becoming universally better as a result, but they don't. That preference is not universal, they simply presume their right to instate their will on the event and the attendees while denying the other side that right.

Or, from another angle: There is reality and being human. We can try to deny it because it's uncomfortable or we can embrace it. I'd rather do the latter.

Oh, I just got caught up. For reference, I banned GeoNeo and Kimosabae for being needlessly antagonistic. That's what is NOT necessary and exactly what Annel is talking about in regards to tournaments. If you two have a problem, you can PM me after it's up and we'll talk about it.

It buffs surface-civil passive agressiveness and nerfs direct expression of emotion though. Not a balancing decision that's to my taste, I'd rather have the conflict openly, resolve it and be done with it than dance around what I want to express ;__;

While I do understand that environments need to be more comfortable for players, I do think that we can't silence someone simply because another felt uncomfortable. There needs to be a tangible reason attached to the incident to enact a penalty beyond simply the feelings involved. Antagonistically popping off in someone's face would be something that I would say would need to be curtailed, certainly. However, popping off to the crowd or to themselves really isn't something I can say needs to be stopped other than for the reason that it brings the tournament to a standstill. If there's ANY reason to stop them doing it, it's that.

This I can agree with though.

You can't really ignore the underlying sentiments that go on in these conversations though. Sure, we can argue the details of this or that pop-off, this one being too antagonist, this one being quiet enough, but there's a larger issue about what's acceptable and that's where a lot of contention come from. So you got this image of the immature, loud, abusive FGC versus the overly-controlling, condescending, righteous FGC. It's pretty overt in this case and there's a lot to argue about, more so when ambiguity is pushed as a tactic, as AnnelFrank has been criticized for in the past.

THIS.

Annefrank makes decent points but his hypersensitivity makes it hard to take seriously. We can debate how wrong it was of shinblade to dance and gloat but lets be real, its competition and it isnt so rare. People who cant handle adversity pressure or aggressive behavior from opponents usually dont last, at low and high levels. The reaction was completely unwarranted and justice was served. She even used social media to admit it. She got physical over a video game for no reason and now she pays the price for it. Its over talk about something else.

mellis I understand you are emotionally invested in some of these things but you let it get the best of you. This is just like the DC thing. The problem with that was you were pushing for aggression with passive aggressive diction by writing articles without names and specifics for example. The problem now is that you seem overly defensive and its hard to take someone like that 100%

This post was hate free. Case closed

Signed.

Bull.

You aren't getting this attention and heat because you're an outspoken woman or LGBT, you're getting it because you have opinions that many people find juvenile and naive, and you have an absurdly passive-aggressive posting style that people find incredibly off-putting. You consistently talk in absurdly vague terms about this stuff, trying to have a "discussion" where no one can figure out exactly what you're talking about and just gets confused and annoyed in the process. If you have an issue you want discussed, actually discuss the issue. Don't pretend to under vague pretenses, get annoyed that no one could decipher your ramblings, and then get angry nothing happened. That gets nothing accomplished and a whole lot of people upset.

When you do discuss things with people, you don't try to explain your viewpoint or actually have a discussion, you just tell your opinion and tell other people they're wrong. This isn't just with this issue, it's a pattern with you when you interact with the. Long ago I learned that discussing things because "my gut says so" lead to highly unpleasant interactions and dismissal from people, and that I actually have to actually discuss facts and specifics to get respect from people. You clearly haven't learned that lesson, and it's going to poison your future interactions until you either learn to fix it, or you simply turn into a long line of people like Mr. Jared or Geordie Tait who retreat into echo chambers while simultaneously shitting on the scene/community they came from.

Signed. Every damn word of it.



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v fighting game stuff

I personally dont think elph is overrated. She is top 5 to me...zato faust ram millia elph...then ino chipp then errbody else imo

godlike normals...a developing unblockable game... grenade ob...command grabs...shes got some questionable hitboxes and good supers to boot

She is however still somewhat honest. She got the tools tho

I just want to have a 6P ;__;

Pretty much playing her because she feels a lot like Faust except her movement is smooth instead of wonky.

not to mention she's piss easy to play, which imo is one of the strongest things about her.

I really want to play Zato but he's damn hard for a neophyte. Faust is nice but a bit too clunky and just doesn't feel inspiring to practice mode grind with. Elphelt feels like he hits both spots well - the basics are easy so I can actually do something in matches, but there's a lot of techy setups and just plain fast execution with a kid viper -ish style of play to practice on the road of getting good. Basically, she scales well.

Hm...I feel less guilty about playing Elphelt than I did playing P4A Mitsuru (part of why I started focusing more on Naoto in that was because it felt more like I actually earned my wins with her).

Go do some shotgun combos and see if you can still say that with a straight face. Stuff is disgusting.

I'm still sort of debating her placement. If she's S, I don't think she's Zato/Millia S, just a tad lower. Definitely at least top of A for sure at this point. Shotgun pressure is crazy and then there's the obvious pineberry. I like her normals, but I also feel like it's the biggest thing holding her back as well?

She lacks that distance-independent 6P antiair. Give her that, and you have a real (-ly adorable) demon.

As someone from a Smash background who loves doing dumb shit involving items on his downtime, I knew what the payoff was going to be but I was not expecting the technical limits to make the moment that much sweeter. Frame drops on explosions are still the most hype shit ever. Shoutouts to bob-omb only matches at double knockback values in Smash 64. :lol

Back when I was a kid we overloaded a 386 computer with Duke Nukem 3d. It has this stage with conveyor belts in it. Well, ok. Let's throw some remote detonator grenades. Weapon code. More nades. Weapon code. More nades. Seems to lag a bit. Sweet. Press detonate.

It seems that a 386 wasn't exactly made for processing about 300 explosions at once.

 

[CountBlack]

^ u expect anyone to read that shit breh

really

 

[Rainy]

Was wondering why this thread blew up. Yikes.