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Kimosabae

Banned
Imm0rt4l said:
I mean if you're going to somehow turn the barbell curl into a compound movement through jerking/ego lifting(I'm assuming) then I could see how you would think he's wrong.

SolarPowered comment was vague enough that he can't be wrong tbh. It's not really terribly specific. That doesn't mean that what he said isn't sound advice. Eating to meet your goals and using proper form is good afvice, just not pointed.
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Dude, it's a matter of perspective. Your anterior deltoids, brachialis, wrist extensors, et al, assist in the movement and the isolation aspect comes from focusing on the contraction of the biceps at the peak and stretching/tearing them during the eccentric phase. But those other muscles have to do useful, physical work, that costs energy, in helping you get the bar from point A to B, unless you're lifting featherweights. Once you go up in weight, your core muscles (of which there are a lot of) are forced to engage to stabilize you - kind of like a squat. You don't have to "jerK" or "ego-lift" for this to be true.

Most exercises work like this. There's truly no such thing as "Isolation Exercises" or "Movements", it's only a useful way of simplifying distinctions among weight lifters/athletes. There's really just degrees of compound motions. Working smaller muscles in an exercise generally require less synergist and stabilizer muscles to perform. A muscle can contract on its own, but movement requires working with other muscles.

Dahbomb said:
Most black? Nah that's Sigmmah.
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This is true. He's probably chillin' in my closet with the lights off right now, and I wouldn't have a clue.
 
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Imm0rt4l

Member
Kimosabae said:
Dude, it's a matter of perspective. Your anterior deltoids, brachialis, wrist extensors, et al, assist in the movement and the isolation aspect comes from focusing on the contraction of the biceps at the peak and stretching/tearing them during the eccentric phase. But those other muscles have to do useful, physical work, that costs energy, in helping you get the bar from point A to B, unless you're lifting featherweights. Once you go up in weight, your core muscles (of which there are a lot of) are forced to engage to stabilize you - kind of like a squat. You don't have to "jerK" or "ego-lift" for this to be true.

Most exercises work like this. There's truly no such thing as "Isolation Exercises" or "Movements", it's only a useful way of simplifying distinctions among weight lifters/athletes. There's really just degrees of compound motions. Working smaller muscles require in an exercise generally require less synergist and stabilizer muscles to be performed.
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K den
 
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Clawww

Member
but why even approach and incorporate curls from a compound perspective? it's superior when applied as an isolation exercise. obviously there are synergists, but if you want compound value on top of hitting your biceps you could do something better, such as (weighted) pull-ups.
 
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K.Sabot

Member
Uh i do cardio

but as you know

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Morris

Disco Devil
RE: Xrd lobby.

Are y'all on PS4 or PS3? Can't find shit.

I spotted Kimo playing earlier on a random lobby lol. My psn is 'floydnova'
 
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K.Sabot

Member
Morris said:
RE: Xrd lobby.

Are y'all on PS4 or PS3? Can't find shit.

I spotted Kimo playing earlier on a random lobby. My psn is 'floydnova'
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the systems crossplay, so you should be able to play with us.

i just got on the game, looking for the lobby now

edit: just a bunch of BR player lobbies
 
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Kimosabae

Banned
Imm0rt4l said:
K den
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*shrug*

Now imagine if you'd have considered that from the beginning.

Clawww said:
but why even approach and incorporate curls from a compound perspective? it's superior when applied as an isolation exercise. obviously there are synergists, but if you want compound value on top of hitting your biceps you could do something better, such as (weighted) pull-ups.
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Why not? People cage themselves when it comes to fitness. There's no such thing as a "superior exercise" if that superior exercise doesn't fit your personally defined fitness goals.

I do pull ups all day AND I do straight bar curls. I don't stay in one lane. I try to challenge as many areas of my fitness as I can, and it's not always about trying to make muscles bigger and stronger (and sometimes it is).
 
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Imm0rt4l

Member
Clawww said:
but why even approach and incorporate curls from a compound perspective? it's superior when applied as an isolation exercise. obviously there are synergists, but if you want compound value on top of hitting your biceps you could do something better, such as (weighted) pull-ups.
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Don't mind him, it's an isolation movement. Nobody thinks to themselves, "hmmm my anterior delts and wrists are lagging, I'll go do some curls!". It's a bicep exercise lol. Pull ups is a compound movement that incorporates biceps though.
 
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Kimosabae

Banned
Imm0rt4l said:
Don't mind him, it's an isolation movement. Nobody thinks to themselves, "hmmm my anterior delts and wrists are lagging, I'll go do some curls!". It's a bicep exercise lol. Pull ups is a compound movement that incorporates biceps though.
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Yes, because that's the ONLY reason I'd want to take a compound approach with my biceps. Typical meathead shit.

Don't mind me, no, Immortal's Instagram link will be in his next post so you can ignore all these inconvenient facts.
 
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zlatko

Banned
Boy, boys. Dick pics, or USF4 FT10.

Otherwise GTFO and go PM each other in this muscle fap contest you have set yourselves down.
 
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Imm0rt4l

Member
Kimosabae said:
Yes, because that's the ONLY reason I'd want to take a compound approach with my biceps.

Don't mind me, no, Immortal's Instagram link will be in his next post so you can ignore all these inconvenient facts.
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Facts lol Google curl isolation movement.

Ur mad <----Fact
 
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Morris

Disco Devil
I felt my connection crap out as soon as someone else joined the lobby so I'm probably not the right man for hosting duties lol.
 
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Kimosabae

Banned
Yeah, that's about as much of an admittance of stupidity as any so....


Yes! Smash is THE compound fighting game!

If you're talking about Melee, of course.
 
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BakedYams

Slayer of Combofiends
Astarte said:
Arcsys you're doing it. You're really achieving something there. I don't know what you're achieving, but you're getting there.
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all my friends were trolling about asses when they forwarded me this, had no clue what it mean but now i do lol. why arcsys, why
 
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Onemic

Member
Man fitness ain't this serious dudes. Even though I personally would never curl in the rack, I wouldn't get a hissyfit over someone curling a lot of weight in the rack. As long as the person curling is doing a high enough weight that they can't do the curls elswhere, there's no need to waste energy getting mad at someone.
 
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SolarPowered

Member
Kimosabae said:
Okay, so you really don't know what the you're talking about, either.

Just wanted to make that clear. There's a fitness professional posting in this thread and it's not the guy with the instagram groupies.

Maybe I should post pictures of myself so everyone will agree with everything I say.
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Pictures and job titles are not as important as facts. I don't really mind what you say, but don't be so haughty about it. Congrats on having a photo worthy bod, I guess.
Imm0rt4l said:
I mean if you're going to somehow turn the barbell curl into a compound movement through jerking/ego lifting(I'm assuming) then I could see how you would think he's wrong. You both have different lifting philosophies in that regard. You could look like Phil heath, nobodies going to agree with you cuz you're still wrong.

SolarPowered comment was vague enough that he can't be wrong tbh. It's not really terribly specific. That doesn't mean that what he said isn't sound advice. Eating to meet your goals and using proper form is good advice, it's just not pointed.
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I'm being this way because people got internet reps to protect. I don't need hours long arguments where no one will change their minds.
Astarte said:
Oh man, Jack-o's win pose has a lotta booty
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