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Final Fantasy Brave Exvius |OT3| A How To Guide Of Pulling Out To Avoid Bediles
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Hippopuncher12
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So yesterday while watching the shit tier NFL games I was bored and decided to reroll some. 20 times pulled D. Fina 3 times all 3 from the daily and with all 3 nothing but crap from the 10 tix. Was hoping to get at least a decent team set up with her which I was gonna attach to a fake FB and give to some unfortunate soul...maybe I will try again today.
ffbedb calculator isn't really accurate. I can't even get it to match my units' stats.
But TM refreshes! I've been running mine as much as I can, it's great! I'm skipping this banner entirely.
So thats where it is, guess i can get a 825 Noctis instead of an 823 one lol
DualCast just finished! Time for Sakurafubuki.
Seems like BM will net me the highest ATK increase. Really tempted to feed moogle to Chizuru.
Hippopuncher12
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TM farming is starting to bore the shit out of me. I fear it will be what makes me quit playing the game eventually.
That makes two of us, we are due to a fun event for a long time now.
Playing Record Keeper makes the flaws of this game way too evident, that's pretty much three weeks I just login to do the arena and set up Nox.
Malakhov
Banned
I might try record keeper, is it as time consuming than exvius?
Hippopuncher12
Member
It's weird I don't have a problem with how TMs work but when that is the only thing to do in the game outside of arena for weeks....it's like well what's the point?
It would if I were doing it manually. But with it running itself on the PC, I love it. I don't mind the downtime at all - I have plenty of other things to do and other games to play that aren't Exvius. I'd get more burned out if there were constantly things I felt like I needed to do in it. Slow weeks like this are like built-in mini breaks. Been loving FF XV and Doom and the new Pokemon, don't have time for all this as it is!
Malakhov
Banned
The Christmas event they gave us wasn't enough for two weeks. The amount of energy I've wasted during my two weeks vacation is insane. I completed the event playing a few minutes here and there on public wifis. The rest of the time I loged in daily to do the quests and that's it.
And now this event doesn't even take an hour to complete. I think we're spoiled and bitch a lot for nothing though, at least they don't make us grind like idiots like in some other games.
Hippopuncher12
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Well sure and I would agree if this game had more stuff to do in it. My problem is we are essentially in an endless grind. We grind TMs basically 24/7 to beat an event in an hour to then just start it again. Which is fine if that wasn't the only thing to do in the game. Having time to play other games or do other things and whatnot isn't a plus or minus for me as I would do that anyway. The point is the game need more content not just an event every couple of weeks. It needs more actual available all the time content.
There's is nothing as time consuming as farming TM there, but you have to farm orbs to hone your skills to actually have a chance to beat harder content.
Instead of pulling for character you pull for relics, which are specific abilities for specific characters. Every 11 pull has a guaranteed 5* relic, but that doesn't mean they will be as powerful as a 5* character here in BE. In general the rates are MUCH better there and it's absurdly easier to level up your characters because they shower you with XP items every week.
The characters are all unlocked through story mode or weekly events (they have like 10 different events every month and 4-5 banners at once are usual).
I think you should give it a try, you might be overwhelmed at the beginning but chances are you will have an enjoyable experience. It took a while for it to click me because of all the mechanics and events but right now I'm having a blast.
Take a look at their OT, there are a lot of guides there and the community is just as friendly as ours.
Malakhov
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Thanks, sounds very interesting. I will look into it tonight. Besides tms I dont have much going on now in exvius.
We seriously need raids, real raids, not that pathetic fraud that we had during Christmas. Something in the models of Mobius or Record Keeper.
If they do something like that every 2-3 weeks with challenging bosses and good rewards that actually makes us want to grind, the game will be much more enjoyable.
Hippopuncher12
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Agreed as I said a few days ago I know the game is still pretty new here so I give it a pass for now....but if in the next 3-6 months it is still this setup I am probably out. I don't get the concept of not playing a game to play a game....it's weird.
Alkez
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Dw guys, the Robot Trial will be here soon enough, and then we can all complain about how it's impossible lol.
In all seriousness though I get what you guys are saying. I've said it before but I like the down time personally as BE was consuming too much of my time. Not just gaming time but work and personal time too. Now I just let it play itself and when the new content comes out I clear it when I have time/want to play.
But I fully understand this point.
I feel like part of that is that we are just way ahead of where we should be in terms of power levels, so what was supposed to be tough content has been trivial for us. The last time I was challenged was evoke Diabolos and that was less difficult and more bs rng.
But part of it is just due to the lack of things to do when there isn't an event going on. Trials are meant to be that thing but due to my previous point they have yet to become that thing.
Part of me thinks they should just release all/more of the trials now. We may not be able to clear the top end ones but it would give us something to do and something to strive for. Even though the Robot is kind of bs I like it because people are struggling, and that is something we haven't really known over here in GAF global (I won't apply it to everyone in global as I understand we are most likely in the top tier of players in this game). The rewards may make us more overpowered than we need to be for the rest of the game, but when the next trial comes out we'll be struggling once again. Plus as I said we're already at the overpowered stage. We need something to challenge us now.
In all seriousness though I get what you guys are saying. I've said it before but I like the down time personally as BE was consuming too much of my time. Not just gaming time but work and personal time too. Now I just let it play itself and when the new content comes out I clear it when I have time/want to play.
But I fully understand this point.
I feel like part of that is that we are just way ahead of where we should be in terms of power levels, so what was supposed to be tough content has been trivial for us. The last time I was challenged was evoke Diabolos and that was less difficult and more bs rng.
But part of it is just due to the lack of things to do when there isn't an event going on. Trials are meant to be that thing but due to my previous point they have yet to become that thing.
Part of me thinks they should just release all/more of the trials now. We may not be able to clear the top end ones but it would give us something to do and something to strive for. Even though the Robot is kind of bs I like it because people are struggling, and that is something we haven't really known over here in GAF global (I won't apply it to everyone in global as I understand we are most likely in the top tier of players in this game). The rewards may make us more overpowered than we need to be for the rest of the game, but when the next trial comes out we'll be struggling once again. Plus as I said we're already at the overpowered stage. We need something to challenge us now.
Okay, I went from ELT not going to be a problem at all to half of my team dead in one round on ELT. Seriously Refia once again the MVP. Lost basically entire team to Dark Fina using round after round of spells - must have crossed too many thresholds damage at once. Only survivors at that point were Refia and friend's Noctis. That was WITH Omni-Veil... Revived Light and WoL, and finished her off the next round.
But seriously, wow... I was sitting pretty, and then basically dead in one round... future trials are going to be harder and harder without better units
Back to the TM grind
But seriously, wow... I was sitting pretty, and then basically dead in one round... future trials are going to be harder and harder without better units
Back to the TM grind
Whee, Bracer and Lunge Combo done overnight, Noctis now sitting at 759 ATK =]
Up next:
2x Chorizo (combined 44% right now)
2x Hayate (Combined 48%)
Karl for that Seal of Destruction =]
Contemplating not refilling Energy for TMs for a bit to let it build back up for a bit. 759 should be reasonable enough right =| Meh I'll probably end up refilling, chase those ATK stats >.< Still need to put Brave Suit in the cooker for him at the end of these
Up next:
2x Chorizo (combined 44% right now)
2x Hayate (Combined 48%)
Karl for that Seal of Destruction =]
Contemplating not refilling Energy for TMs for a bit to let it build back up for a bit. 759 should be reasonable enough right =| Meh I'll probably end up refilling, chase those ATK stats >.< Still need to put Brave Suit in the cooker for him at the end of these
Yeah, I'm finally doubling down on Dual Cast in case I need to rotate Refia in for difficult fights. Two turned Dark Fina so it wasn't an issue but once you need to drag a fight out like Maxwell there's no way around it.
What does your team look like ? Everything is possible with the right friend. No need to be a whale or have all the Top Tier TMS - just gotta prepare more and likely cant just bruteforce your way to success.
@Valentus has made a video:
Brave Exvius global - Memories of the Aquapolis ELT - no TM - no base 5 star - All achievements. Check it out, maybe it can help you to see where you fail. Ofc ask here help too
.Advocatus Diaboli
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Brave Suit, finally. Noctis pushing 773.
Did a daily and 2 tickets: Luka, Hayate (dupe), Garnet (dupe). Not bad. Still have 46 tickets banked...
Did a daily and 2 tickets: Luka, Hayate (dupe), Garnet (dupe). Not bad. Still have 46 tickets banked...
Lyrian
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All this goes back to the concept that macroing was not intended, nor in the core design plan of the game. As a result, as you mention, players who macro significantly are far ahead of the power curve.
I can almost all but guarantee that the ELT encounters are not designed (yet) around people bringing multiple 700 and 800 ATK units to a fight. Now, there are whispers of 900 ATK being heard.
When I cleared ELT, my ideal team had 3 DPS, each at around 500 ATK. Coupled with a strong friend unit, that was a solid fight. Had the friend unit been another normal 500 ATK unit, the fight would be quite challenging but still winable (but not 100% of the time, which is likely the intent of ELT-tuned difficulty).
So, for now, we only have ourselves to blame for macroing and placing ourselves far in advance of the power curve. As a result, we are stuck tapping our feet impatiently waiting for the power curve to catch back up and to present "challenging and meaningful" content again.
The Robot! fight on JP reads like it is a trial where the devs have finally said, "Fine, here is a trial that requires an ideal team with a complete BiS loadout on each unit. Are you happy, now?" Granted, as with any game with power creep, one day the Robot! trial will be trivial to complete. But, for now, it sits on the bleeding edge of the power curve in JP.
That sounds like what happened. Dark Fina is tuned to make the player pay if she is damaged too quickly. Unlike previous trials or ELT missions, Dark Final **will** fire off all of her threshold attacks as soon as they are crossed, with the potential of multiple thresholds being fired off in rapid succession on the same turn (potentially causing a wipe). Omni-veil doesn't work here (I made the same mistake), as Meteor and Ultima are non-elemental attacks. So, raw SPR makes the difference here (which is likely tuned with the expectation for Luka's +50% SPR buff to be used). But, then again, practically everyone has access to Cecil at this point, so....
Not used to just checking in on the game 2 or 3x a day to run out energy for TM farming and having nothing else to do. Nice for playing other games or actually doing RL stuff, but a very strange feeling nonetheless. If this is like other gacha games I'm played, Gumi will probably make sure that such a giant lag like this will likely not happen again (it's bad for business to have idling players).
Muku
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At that point, that would be so, so wrong. Especially since it is bringing new folks into the fold. "HEY HERE IS ADRIANA GRANDO BURRITO! But you can't get her, because she's a badass. But please stick around and buy our LAPIZZZZZZZ!"
She's a troll for me. I've already gotten her several times. She's just trolling me. On her banner and off.
Hippopuncher12
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Well I was going to give myself an alt account for when my main is TM farming and I want to play but it's back down to only 5 tickets for rerolls....nope nope nope. However I did get a rainbow when I did do it today....a 5* Elle....lol fuck you guy.
Bummer, I thought running the BEG event 3 times would work for the daily. I could have swore it worked yesterday...
A couple questions for you guys this morning. Which standard/friend units are worth keeping for TMR? I'm starting to run out of unit space. Also, I have some mini tough and magic pots taking up space as well. Are those upgrades permanent aka should I be careful with them and min/max? Or should I just use them for now and/or get rid of them since they're just minis?
I gotta say.. I am loving this game. The music, pixel art, gameplay, FF tie ins are all exactly how I'd want them. I played FFRK when it first came out but quit for some reason. I've been trying to play that along side this, but I'm pretty lost as to what to do and I hate not being effecient (while you guys really clearly spelled out a ton of help for me in FFBE those first two days.. thank you!) I'm having so much fun in this game that I tried checking out all the other popular gacha games, but none draw me in aesthetically or mechanically like this one does, which is a bummer because it would be nice to have something to play at work while my energy isn't there in FFBE.
A couple questions for you guys this morning. Which standard/friend units are worth keeping for TMR? I'm starting to run out of unit space. Also, I have some mini tough and magic pots taking up space as well. Are those upgrades permanent aka should I be careful with them and min/max? Or should I just use them for now and/or get rid of them since they're just minis?
I gotta say.. I am loving this game. The music, pixel art, gameplay, FF tie ins are all exactly how I'd want them. I played FFRK when it first came out but quit for some reason. I've been trying to play that along side this, but I'm pretty lost as to what to do and I hate not being effecient (while you guys really clearly spelled out a ton of help for me in FFBE those first two days.. thank you!) I'm having so much fun in this game that I tried checking out all the other popular gacha games, but none draw me in aesthetically or mechanically like this one does, which is a bummer because it would be nice to have something to play at work while my energy isn't there in FFBE.
Hippopuncher12
Member
Friend Units with worth it TM's
Rizer - HP +10%
Paul - Escape
King Giott - Stone Killer
Ollie - Aquan Killer
Carrie - Sunbeam
Skaha - Dragon Killer
Montana - Camo
Kenyu - Raging Fist
The Killer ones I would for sure get the others are niche but useful.
Okay I will save those units and sell the rest. Any recommendation on how many of each useful one of those I should stock pile?
Shouta
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Pull streamers are pretty common for JP.
Also, the reason they changed how summoning was probably feedback from the community and realizing that the pool of units was getting too big and they needed to stem it from inflating more. If they had left it, a lot more people would complain and leave the game. So they did it to retain their high base now instead of trying to stop the bleeding later.
Hippopuncher12
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The HP one get as many as you need until you can get better ones. The others probably 1 of each maybe 2 of the Killer ones.
Thanks man. What should I do with these mini pots?
Never. Ariana is our permanent banner until the end of time.
Yeah man.. Those exp cactuars look really nice now. Feel uneasy about spending Lapis, though.
2000 lapis for stuff you can get for free. Mog king events had 100 metal gigantuar available easily and the 6* mats too. 40 is not enough to go from 3* to 6* it's very little.
I've tried FFRK today after a few good months, and I remember one thing: the menus were staggering slow! It's much better now!
Yeah I wouldn't say it's worth it at all. 2k is quite a bit of lapis, but I also don't spend cash so I'm a little more stingy with it.
Alkez
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As in a banner where most of the units are useful? Some time from what I can see, but it depends on what you want and need. I was discussing this yesterday but solely for tms. Val said Zero part II is good and he is right, but for me there's only one unit I would want off it. That banner could come at the end of the month if they do back to back zero banners. Or it could be around March time if not.
Euphoria14
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Normally wouldn't do it but I dumped 2000 lapis to get those gigantuars. Now I've got my new Chiziru to level 100 and have two decent DPS units in CoD and Chiziru.
Almost time to give Dark Fina another try on ELT.
Almost time to give Dark Fina another try on ELT.
The Silver
Member
The only "important" upcoming base 4 star unit I ever hear about is Rikku, what's on the horizon after her if I don't care about TMs?
PantherLotus
Professional Schmuck
wait you spent what on what?
I don't think it's good value, but I totally get that people want to upgrade their units.
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