Just do FATEs, also there are GC leve mates at some places which also grant seals. At first 2000 seals might sound like a lot for a chocobo but I got them in about 2 hours or so just playing the game normally.
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Just do FATEs, also there are GC leve mates at some places which also grant seals. At first 2000 seals might sound like a lot for a chocobo but I got them in about 2 hours or so just playing the game normally.
BattleMonkey
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FATES are a quick way, you get around 100 seals per fate if you do enough in it. You also get a few seals for doing the supply/provision quests.
Yeah I am 37! Will look into this combo, didn't realize Fire 3 gave me Astral Fire II like Rattlehead said.
It'll change at 38, when Transpose drops out of the equation in favor of Blizzard 3 (which also does the full-stacks trick). At that point you'll want to Fire down to just barely enough MP for Blizzard 3 (with full Astral Fire up, this should be well under 100 MP) + Thunder 2.
Quite a lot of seals if you also happen to be the type of insane bastard who decides to try and master ALL the non-combat classes.
*raises hand*
WeaponKnight
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Scathe can be cancelled into Transpose, so the GCD is not that bad. Plus, if it activates the trait and/or crits, it's more powerful than a Fire.
chickdigger802
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So what should i be using these seals for outside of leveling up my gc rank? The gear available seem worse than HQ gear of equiv level i find on the market.
Transpose isn't very useful post-40, where you want to be under Astral/Umbral III at all times due to the Fire 3/Blizzard 3 cast speed bonuses and the 50%+ MP regen rate of Umbral 3.
And 120 potency with a 20% chance to double is a fancy way of saying 144 potency over time, or, less than Blizzard. The trait is there to make it -really bad- when subbed, not to make it good on THM/BLM.
Continuing on:
At 40 you'll get Astral Fire/Umbral Blizzard III, which also reduces cast time of the opposite spell to sub-GCD. This means Swiftcast-Blizzard 3 should now be your opener, as it makes your initial Fire 3 both cheaper and quicker.
42 is Lethargy, which is off all cooldowns and is a great thing to toss in immediately after an Astral/Umbral swap while waiting for GCD; sadly it doesn't work on most bosses.
46 is Thunder 3, which replaces Thunder 2 completely. It should get your Swiftcast at almost all times during your rotation on bosses, but for trash mobs it depends on how quick they're dying.
Freeze is useless, and Flare is a Fira alternative rather than a rotation mainstay due to its reliance on Transpose and Convert and the loss of GCDs this involves. This logic may not apply with other sources of MP regen.
You can save it then, at 50 you can get a decent weapon. You can also buy the dark matter to repair your equipment with, or you can buy exp scrolls for crafting/gathering. Armor for your mount, pets, random stuff, or save up for when they increase the rank cap.
demosthenes
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Xpscrolls and free gear. Do you buy HQ gear for every piece of equipment?
chickdigger802
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nope, i pretty much just get hq weapon, and wear quest gear.
BattleMonkey
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The gear is pretty good, and doesn't cost any gil. And unique looks. Most HQ gear sells for stupid prices and not worth it
chickdigger802
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does it really? i think i paid like 5k for this HQ lvl 42 sword. I guess end game stuff might get pricy.
MagicWithEarvin
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GC gear seems to be comparable to what vendors sell and what you can get out of dungeons.
BattleMonkey
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That's fairly cheap for a HQ weapon, you sometimes get lucky on that kind of stuff but most HQ stuff gets chucked up there for crazy prices. If your swimming in gil then I guess it doesn't matter. But I rather use up my GC seals than my gil since I got more use for gil than gc seals. For the level the GC gear tends to be just as good or slightly better than regular quest or purchasable gears.
Also, I'd save seals rather than buying EXP scrolls TBH. They're good for what, 20 bonus exp per seal? (1k-2k seal cost, 20k-40k exp bonus cap) But you only gain one seal for every 200ish exp earned in a FATE.
In other words, for every FATE that you're avoiding for EXP now, you'll have to run five or ten to get the seals back the next time there's GC gear you want.
In other words, for every FATE that you're avoiding for EXP now, you'll have to run five or ten to get the seals back the next time there's GC gear you want.
Finally ran and finished Aurum Vale last night before bed. That 2nd boss is pretty rough when it comes to it's complete lack of aoe indicators. Also managed to take down the chimera as well after getting my materia and weapon melded (thanks Zam!).
Now it's just the debate over whether I should run WP first or start grinding AK for gear and tomes.
Now it's just the debate over whether I should run WP first or start grinding AK for gear and tomes.
Parakeetman
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Actually you have it the other way around. The GC gear is better than HQ gear that can be crafted...
demosthenes
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I had near 50k seals. Yes I'm going to buy scrolls lol.
WeaponKnight
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That's good to know, thanks.
Also, does Flare damage scale with your remaining MP? It seems kind of absurd to cost all MP if not.
chickdigger802
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hmmm the one i saw is 2 attck lower than this HQ weapon.
But its not like that makes much of a diff in this game
I know, I'm a tank, but doing ~100-150 damage in the 40s of any sort of rpg is pretty depressing. This is almost paper mario levels of damage.
Final fantasy games have always been to the 9999 damage cap right... well before limit breaker shit.
I don't need to do modern wow numbers, but 4 digit damage should be the norm of late game mmos. 5 digit for end game geared out.
But its not like that makes much of a diff in this game
I know, I'm a tank, but doing ~100-150 damage in the 40s of any sort of rpg is pretty depressing. This is almost paper mario levels of damage.
Final fantasy games have always been to the 9999 damage cap right... well before limit breaker shit.
I don't need to do modern wow numbers, but 4 digit damage should be the norm of late game mmos. 5 digit for end game geared out.
demosthenes
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demosthenes
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hmmm the one i saw is 2 attck lower than this HQ weapon.
But its not like that makes much of a diff in this game
I know, I'm a tank, but doing ~100-150 damage in the 40s of any sort of rpg is pretty depressing. This is almost paper mario levels of damage.
Final fantasy games have always been to the 9999 damage cap right... well before limit breaker shit.
I don't need to do modern wow numbers, but 4 digit damage should be the norm of late game mmos. 5 digit for end game geared out.
The level cap is 50. In a year or 2 it will be much higher. The game will keep growing
Scathe - This skill is not for your DPS rotation. It's good for "that thing's almost dead, let me help" moments as well as for claiming/pulling things (phase 1 of last boss of CM for example).
Freeze - Also not part of your DPS rotation, but it's a great utility spell. Ever seen it on Garuda?
Transpose - Convert's recast is long; transpose is a critical skill at 50 to keep your DPS up.
You want some good DPS at 50, use a rotation like this:
Thunder II or III, Swiftcast Fire III, then do Fire until you're at around 300 MP (make sure to cast any free Thunder III or Fire III procs you get). Flare, Convert, Fire again until you're around 300 MP, Flare, Transpose, reapply Thunder and maybe toss an ice spell then start over with Fire. Main thing is be careful to not cast Flare when you have neither Convert nor Transpose up because then your DPS will drop like a rock (if you do this on accident, manually click off your Astral Fire buff so you can start getting MP back).
If current patterns hold, the next tier of ranks will be 47k just for rank ups and the gear will be in the five digits. I'd rather have that out of the way up to cap than start burning it for a similar XP reward to a level 30 crafting leve or FATE.
So, do the Grand Companies ever give any group quests that require everyone to be a member of the same GC?
All my pals went Twin Adder, so I did too thinking it was like city alligence in FFXI but that doesn't seen to be the case fr what I've seen up to level 35 anyway. Really wanna go to The Maelstrom. Lol
All my pals went Twin Adder, so I did too thinking it was like city alligence in FFXI but that doesn't seen to be the case fr what I've seen up to level 35 anyway. Really wanna go to The Maelstrom. Lol
demosthenes
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And when that happens I will be back to 40-50k.
I know it's a little different on legacy servers than on new ones but just FYI like two weeks after launch and I already pretty much already phased out all my GC gear for all my jobs. Just for some perspective on their longevity as endgame gear (except I must say the level 50 weapons are quite good hold-overs until primal weapons).
MagicWithEarvin
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Look for your Company Levemete, he will have three company leves you can repeat ad nauseam and depending on the completion time (they don't last more than 5 minutes each) you'll get 130-180 seals. I got my chocobo in an hour.
MagicWithEarvin
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The Logitech G600 mouse in on sale at Amazon for $44.99
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Highly recommended for this game and othe MMOs
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Highly recommended for this game and othe MMOs
Edvardelis
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If you're staring a second class/job like a tank and need gear GC is a good way to go because you won't have access to quest rewards...
Crazy mouse. It's not enough to have that many buttons, you have a shift state for double that... and three profiles on top of the shifting, so that's six exclusive sets you can assign to a single executable.
I got really luck with AK. 2nd run I got 3 pieces of gear that were upgrades
I got one piece during my first run, but we didn't finish the dungeon in time. Since then I am better geared than I was during my first run. Maybe I'll try and grind out my 300 a week there and run CM for phil for better gear to get geared for Garuda and Titan.
It's funny how as a healer new to hard mode Ifrit I was always the one misstepping and eating a plume and the second I got everything down to a tee someone else is willing to take the place on the barbeque, I can't stay mad at them.
I've lost count how many times Benediction has saved the group's bacon, I physically love that spell.
I've lost count how many times Benediction has saved the group's bacon, I physically love that spell.
Jrpgfanatic
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Seconded. This mouse is great for this game.
Thirded. Best mouse I ever owned.
Im thinking about one of that Logitech G19s as thats also on sale. Are there any good uses for having a screen on the keyboard?
Cooldown can be a bit long on it but a free full heal is pretty awesome. I am always reminded that I don't have that and Medica II whenever I run a lower level dungeon. Screw you Aurum Vale, I want to bene the tank during that first boss and you won't let me do it.
MagicWithEarvin
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I want it because it's backlit =p
I wonder if you can map some of the HUD elements on there?
On one hand it might make my experience better. On the other hand I'm already ingrained the method I use now and don't want to spend $45.
Your character doesn't seem that excited.
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Finish your GC hunting log... That or max out your rank
On another note... Did Titan hard mode today with a decent group... We beat the heart easily.. But after that... Things went downhill quickly as most of the people didn't know what to do with the new bomb pattern..
Then I've learned of the new way people try to avoid the duty finder cooldown..
Alt+F4
Yep, those bastards will force dc and wait out the party til they leave... Unlucky for that bastard, the party waited for him... The bastard did this 3 times.. The third time, we waited for him to pop and MPKed his ass..
Felt great
I personally think SweetFX makes the game look worse.
chickdigger802
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game looks good during the day, game looks like butt at night
well the glowy rocks look neat at night with the ghastly glow.
well the glowy rocks look neat at night with the ghastly glow.
game looks good during the day, game looks like butt at night
well the glowy rocks look neat at night with the ghastly glow.
wat
piratepwnsninja
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The problem is the game was compelling til the 40s, and now I keep getting level blocked by the story quests.
Here's the thing. An MMO is competing against every other game out there for your time. From 1-38ish or so, I had no desire to play anything else really. Then this break happened, and yikes. I can FATE grind, or I can go play something else *actually fun*. A game like this should NEVER EVER hit a moment like this in a leveling pace to cap, MMOs learned that years ago at this point.
Of course, let's not go into how you have to level like 2 other classes to mid-30 as a healer just to get the same tools most other MMOs give healers just as part of their class...
Game has been great to this point, but already at a point where only the community can save me to keep playing. Knowing like no one in the guild certainly hasn't helped matters either.
I've unlocked three jobs and have one at 50, having completed the storyline. With my level 50, not once did I come across a locked story quest. In addition, I did absolutely none of the side quests on my way to my first 50. Why? Because I took part in everything else the game has to offer. Did that include doing some FATEs? Sure. But I wasn't always headlong into doing just the story. Guildhests offer ridiculous XP the first time you do them. FATEs, while yes you can just grind and they are the most "efficient" way to level, pop up all the time and I'd run to them when they'd pop in zones I was doing quests in. I was always queued for dungeons, because mobs in dungeons, even when you level sync down to do lower level ones, provide very good XP, while also providing the chance for loot to either wear or sell. You have leves that provide good XP as an option too, and I made use of those as they are easily repeatable.
I understand what you want, to just go through the storyline, but its a want, not something the game needs. They provide many avenues for leveling that don't require the WoW method of grab all things at a quest hub, do them, then proceed to the next one. It works for WoW because that is all they do. Not leveling criticism against that game, but just stating what works for them doesn't have to work here because there are a lot of different things to do.
Edvardelis
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He wasn't so bad, what with him turning to you and making an angry face and all that.
The other bosses though.. ugh. I hate that place as a SMN.
The stacking debuffs and ridiculous number of AoE hazards are guaranteed pet death.
Bane's terrible radius means there's no good way for me to AoE down the spawns on the last boss.
Even a level 3 limit break wasn't wide enough to tag them all.
chickdigger802
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