Baleoce
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They certainly seem pricey anyway xD Am I better off going with a Logitech setup for a left hand keypad/MMO mouse?
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They certainly seem pricey anyway xD Am I better off going with a Logitech setup for a left hand keypad/MMO mouse?
oh im a dummy
yeah it's the hex
i just impulse bought it while i was at a microcenter so i dont even know the name of my mouse lol
Jrpgfanatic
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Yes, but a few of us here recommend the Logitech G600 mouse instead.
That seems to be wired, do they do a wireless version?
MagicWithEarvin
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Only the G700 version, but that doesn't have as many buttons on the side as the G600. Also, no 2nd right-click button (which is super handy).
Riposte
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Not that it matters, but 1.23 was a lot like Xenoblade. (Would have been more so if they brought back battle regimens, since Xenoblade basically has those.)
EDIT: A mouse like that should be nice (especially I'm using a straight up busted mouse, right click doesn't even work), but those buttons seem weird because of how many of them there are and their stacked placement.
Man, I'm seriously considering picking up a cheap USB Keyboard for this. The dungeon's are not super intensive now, but I'm worried later on when I might have to talk more. And typing on the PS3 controller is one of the most awkward things ever (even getting to the typing menu seems ridiculously unintuitive). Of course, I also fear my actual control of my character will plummet since I've definitely never played an MMO proper on a keyboard, let alone any MMO before XIV.
Are there some PS3 pad warriors here who managed to get to the end-game just fine?
Are there some PS3 pad warriors here who managed to get to the end-game just fine?
Jrpgfanatic
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Why not get one of those attachable chat pads for your PS3 controller? Not as good as a KB I'm sure, but it's an improvement.
MagicWithEarvin
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I thought the same thing at first, but my right thumb can easily locate and click the desired button on the side that's assigned in-game. It took me about an hour or two to adjust to the weight of the mouse, and the 12 buttons on the side for this game.
Jrpgfanatic
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I'll second this. There is a bit of an adjustment period if you've never used a mouse like this, but it really doesn't take much time at all to get used to using it. Being able to have your left hand on WASD 100% of the time really makes a big difference in mobility, which is a godsend when playing MNK and DRG due to their positional requirements.
Jewologist
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I'm on PS3. I have a keyboard for typing and that's it. I've been able to complete all the dungeons just fine at end game. You just need to not let yourself get carried away and start making incorrect inputs. Learn to master Hot Bar Swapping, as you will need it for endgame.
I've got a G700, it's cool if you just want a few buttons on the side, and the option to go wireless -- although it drains its batteries MUCH faster than some of the other wireless mice I've used, so you'll have to plug it in every few days to recharge. And my mousewheel has decided that it only wants to scroll 2-3 notches up at a time, before giving up and refusing to respond.
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Maybe I'll just get a G600 after all.
Domcorleone
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Im trying to use the secuity token to play the damn game and its asking for a registration password for which I do not have. what do I do?
Only the G700 version, but that doesn't have as many buttons on the side as the G600. Also, no 2nd right-click button (which is super handy).
This is actually my primary mouse right now and it's pretty sweet. Instead of using individual buttons for certain skills, I just use two of the side buttons for alt and ctrl to make it easier to hit other abilities on my toolbar. Maybe I'll set one up specific to Sprint for easier access during dungeons.
chickdigger802
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g700 is a great overall gaming mouse. have enough extra buttons to make you dangerous in mmos and it works respectfully well wired for shooters.
Modern Logitech build quality though not as good as it used to be
But Razer isn't much better...
Modern Logitech build quality though not as good as it used to be
But Razer isn't much better...
I just saw this post. It was probably already discussed, but it really makes me angry.
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/news/detail/40e6eb816889a677a2c234949bf3bbf3f197a43d
I really hate it when MMO companies punish players for something that is their fault. Especially when it's something as harmless as this.
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/news/detail/40e6eb816889a677a2c234949bf3bbf3f197a43d
I really hate it when MMO companies punish players for something that is their fault. Especially when it's something as harmless as this.
Yeah, but if it's in the ToS...
It makes me angry to know that someone is getting angry about SE telling people to not exploit glitches.
Bacon_Boss
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Yeah, wow had some history of players figuring out "creative methods" of defeating bosses in the past but only a few select guilds every got punished for riding them. It's odd that they don't just leave it alone until a hotfix.
Edvardelis
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I have one. G8/G9/G10 (the little buttons to the left of the left click button) are super mushy and the battery life while wireless is terrible. It really needed to be built using two AA instead of one.
Bacon_Boss
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My naga made gaming a lot easier. You don't really notice how awkward the 1 to = buttons are until you don't need to do keyboard gymnastics to finish your rotation.
edit: whoops! didn't mean to make two separate posts.
Glitches are part of the game. It's the devs' responsbility to fix them. If they don't want people to use them, they can fix them. And particularly if players are part of a group that's doing it without realizing it and they continue and get punished, that's incredibly shitty.
Imagine if SE banned everyone who did AK speedruns before they fixed that.
I totally agree that it's not cool to punish someone for taking advantage of a glitch without knowing for sure if it's a glitch or not (edit: this was a poor choice of words--I mean "benefiting from" since you can't really unknowingly take advantage of something). As far as they know, maybe that's the intended way the fight works, right? But now that SE has confirmed it's a glitch, I have absolutely zero sympathy for anyone punished for abusing it.
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I figured you'd bring this up, but AK speedruns weren't glitch abuse. There was no glitch. SE's "fix" even confirms this--trash mobs still behave the exact same way and you can still MGS past some of them.
This. I don't assume everybody is aware that the immobile enemy is an issue at the moment, and those that don't wouldn't likely stop dps as they might just assume its a bug in the game and continue to play as though nothing had changed. It's not something they are seeking to exploit.
I guess I just hope that the unknowing aren't punished for a bug that they aren't in control of.
I've tanked my Warrior all the way to end game on a 360 controller with very few issues. There's controller specific targeting options that help a lot. I'd advise against healing though. Not tried it myself, but I imagine it's a pain in an 8 man party. You'd probably want to create a macro for cooldown moves so you can have them all set to the same button. Flicking between hotbars mid battle isn't convenient.
Baleoce
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I agree with you when it occurs to groups who are oblivious to what they're doing.
There was an instance in FFXI where people were exploiting a bug in Salvage where you could "dupe" the chest drops. It was being abused to a pretty high degree, and bans were handed out. Yes, I think the best thing is for those bugs to be fixed asap. Sometimes that's not always possible though and you can end up breaking 3-4 other things in the process. Do I think those Salvage people should have been banned? Yes. However, like you pointed out, there's a difference between deliberate intent and accidental discovery. The former is bannable imo (because these fixes sometimes aren't instant and can lead to other knock on effects that have to be taken into account), but the latter would be harsh.
I'm fine with punishing abusers of said glitch, but I it makes no sense to punish a team that doesn't even know or think it's a part of the fight. As Aeana said, it's a glitch and it's the team's responsibility to fix it, not go about banning people for unknowingly stumbling into it and beating the mob.
I am never a fan when the ban hammer is summoned rather quickly and is used unapologetically against users that are unaware what they did was abusing the system.
Edit: Not saying the above will happen, but the announcement seems to indicate that anyone caught downing one of the two bugged mobs are violating the ToS and are subject to an account review and ban.
G600 was only 45 bucks on amazon on Monday
Its pretty much become my favorite mouse ever. Even without the extra buttons, its just comfy as hell. All mice need a ring finger click now, imo
Once you get used to it, your thumb can glide around those buttons without even looking. The way theyre shaped to help you figure out where your thumb is just a great idea.
Relaxed Muscle
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I think there's a difference between a design failure and a glitch. Garuda in 1.0 was also explotaible for a time and they didn't ban anyone, they admited their fault on how they designed the fight.
Exploiting a glitch also leads to bans in games like CoD because is not fun and potentitally damaging. This may not be really that bad in the long run but it would set a bad precedent in which future glitches will be used without punishment.
razgriz417
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So I finally got far enough in the story to pick a GC. Is there any significant difference between the 3? Like do certain GCs have access to weapons and armors of a certain type? I'm playing as a pugilist right now though I may monk/bard and was leaning toward twin adders. Also is GC armor dyeable?
How do you separate those that knowingly do it, unknowingly do it or are unknowingly complicit in doing it? Seems stupid, just fix it and move on. It's not even that big of a deal since it doesn't drop anything super crazy. This happens(ed) with the Demon Wall sometimes when someone falls off.
I would seriously riot, because if they are going to go on a banning spree they have much higher priorities. Namely all the freaking spammers plaguing this game. I don't care if they are hacked accounts or what they are, they need a system in place to lock these accounts out and fast until they can get it sorted out with the owners.
darkblade77
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S-E is not going to swing the banhammer left and right. They're using hard language so anyone who actually reads the message thinks twice about doing it, which is the point. This is nothing new.
Had some awesome luck with Ifrit these past couple of days. Got my whm cane after like 3 kills on Tuesday and my brd bow after like 2 or 3 kills last night. I also managed to get the sch codex which is awesome cause that was what I was planning to level next. Of course, this means I used all my good luck and I'll never get any other drops I want ever again. lol
Now to try and farm some more tomes for more darklight. I also need 4 more AK runs to cap out for the week if any gaffers on Ultros want to do some tonight or tomorrow!
Now to try and farm some more tomes for more darklight. I also need 4 more AK runs to cap out for the week if any gaffers on Ultros want to do some tonight or tomorrow!
Yeah I got my cane yesterday too after 20 runs. Now time to farm AK tonight to cap myth and get tomes + lvl60 ugly gear
we.are.the.armada
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So how does the glitch work?
No idea, although I assume it's something with the tank standing in a place where the boss cannot hit them, so instead of switching agro it just stands there.
Lots of MMOs have this issue. WoW did for a while until they implemented the evade fix where the mob will simply evade all attacks and heal if it cannot reach it's target within a certain time.
Dunno, but my chimera fight bugged.
I was dedicated dragon voice stunner. We had someone dc right before the fight and we started it, and it did not use rams or dragons voice until the guy reconnected at 10% hp lol.
MagicWithEarvin
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The G600 mouse went back up to $59.99 (it was $44.99 the other day on Amazon), but still worth it for the time you'll be spending on ARR, and possibly other games on your PC.
razgriz417
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Only the G700 version, but that doesn't have as many buttons on the side as the G600. Also, no 2nd right-click button (which is super handy).
Love my G700 for all purpose use and general gaming (battery life kinda sucks but luckily i got a stack of eneloops lol) though I wish they'd make an mmo version. I'd get the G600 for mmos if it wasn't for its raised back design, I can never hold a mouse comfortably for long periods of time if the back end isn't curved over like on the g700 here :/
Agreed. Banning someone over a relatively harmless glitch is ridiculous. I'm all for removing rewards (rolling back quest progress in this case), but bans are going too far. Bans should only be used in serious cases where players are intentionally doing something that ruins the game for other players.
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