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Final Fight appreciation thread B******!!!!!!!!
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Red Scarlet
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AndreasNystrom said:
:lol :lol
..or did a sequel to Cadillacs and Dinosaurs come out?
The GBA version has Roxy / Poison?
AndreasNystrom
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Red : haha sorry! 
ofcourse i meant Caddilacs.. but still an awesome game, right?
ofcourse i meant Caddilacs.. but still an awesome game, right?
Red Scarlet
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Dunno..I have the rom but I haven't played it (it might be broken).
Looked awesome though..I wish the Aliens Vs Predator beat-em-up came out for a home system (and Simpsons).
Looked awesome though..I wish the Aliens Vs Predator beat-em-up came out for a home system (and Simpsons).
Mac the KNife
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Seeing these old beat um ups makes me want to walk down the street and beat the hell out of whoever i see
midnightguy said:you serious man? :lol
IF Final Fight One GBA looks as good or better than the arcade to *you* then you need to get your eyes checked, dude.
you need to understand that the GBA graphics chip is not on the same level as Capcom CPS1 in 2D graphical goodness.
GBA vs CPS1
CPU: ARM7 16 MHz vs 68000 @ 10 MHz + Z80 about the same
sprites: 128 vs 256 .......CPS1 wins
resolution: 240x160 vs 384 x 224 ......CPS1 wins
colors displayable on screen: 256-512 vs 2048-4096 ........ CPS1 wins
RAM / VRAM fucking bet you CPS1 wins on this too... dont have the numbers handy
GBA Final Fight One is an extended port of the SNES FF. all the missing content from SNES was added back into the GBA version (Industrial Level, 2-player, all 3 main characters) -BUT- the graphics and animation are mostly the same as the SNES/SFC versions.
so, what makes the GBA FF *not* as good as the arcade?
*lower resolution (play GBA FF on your TV with Gamecube GBA Player to make it a monitor vs monitor comparison)
*less colors on screen
*less animation in the sprites
*missing or changed background details
...there are probably a few things I'm forgetting....
oh but wait, I must be LYING... whatever.
O.K. here's the deal....after doing some HEAVY and very extended research, I've come to conclusion that you may be right! So my bad.....
Warm Machine
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Sounds like a hell of a good game!
midnightguy
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isamu said:
*sigh*
can we just say a game is great without saying arcade perfect port? do you not realize that GBA cannot rival CPS1, let alone CPS2 ? do you realize that 99.9 % of the games that are heralded as "arcade perfect" are not arcade-identical?
Isamu, no matter how much you LIKE a game, a given home version of an arcade game, does not mean its visually or aurally on par with the arcade version.
I might love Sega Rally 2 on Dreamcast to death, but in no way could it be called arcade perfect. I might think Altered Beast on Genesis is the greatest thing ever, but I wouldn't dare even dream it was the same as the arcade game.
if we look at SFA3 on Saturn, and on Dreamcast, they are both closer to the arcade than GBA SFA3, but even Saturn and Dreamcast versions are not arcade-perfect. so how can GBA SFA3 be arcade perfect?
is SFA3 Upper on GBA an awesome game? yes of course it is. does that make it arcade-perfect?
Red Scarlet
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Warm Machine said:and
Sounds like a hell of a good game!
:lol :lol :lol Nice.
Spectral Glider
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isamu said:
1. Final Fight
2. Streets of Rage
3. Don't know
4. The Punisher
5. Final Fight
6. Final Fight
7. Combatribes
8. Don't know
9. Don't know
10. Final Fight
If memory serves me, SFA3 was also the last game Crawfish did before being shut down...
Now, if only Capcom would take the two days it would require to port the game to DS with remixed audio and a six button setup... oh, I know it wouldn't sell well, but I'd pay $40.
History shows that I'll buy just about any Street Fighter game that comes out for any system... even if it's a Tiger Handheld.
Now, if only Capcom would take the two days it would require to port the game to DS with remixed audio and a six button setup... oh, I know it wouldn't sell well, but I'd pay $40.
History shows that I'll buy just about any Street Fighter game that comes out for any system... even if it's a Tiger Handheld.
Hell, IIRC, they were actually shut down right after wrapping up the slightly augmented US release of SFA3, and before it actually hit stores. Very sad, one of the main devs used to post a lot at Gamefaqs about the game, detailing what would be changed in the US version, etc, given how long it was delayed. David something-or-other...
O.K. I have a question....
you know how when you are fighting against one of the Andre guys and you get knocked down? Well sometimes he will jump up and land on you and seriously fuck you up! I want to know is there a way to dodge this? Say...roll from under the attack or get up quickly before he lands? I mean hot damn....that is so unfair that he can just squash the shit out of you and get a free hit while you're lying on the ground.
you know how when you are fighting against one of the Andre guys and you get knocked down? Well sometimes he will jump up and land on you and seriously fuck you up! I want to know is there a way to dodge this? Say...roll from under the attack or get up quickly before he lands? I mean hot damn....that is so unfair that he can just squash the shit out of you and get a free hit while you're lying on the ground.
Mejilan said:
Yeah, I remember that. That David guy said after the Japanese release that they had extra room on the cart since the English text took up less space, so they added two more backgrounds (Dan's and Karin's IIRC) into the game. I can't think of many other developers that would take the time to add more content into a GBA game like these guys did; it really sucks they shut down. SFA3 on GBA was amazing. Far from perfect, but still amazing as hell.
David also posted how they had to work to convince Capcom to let them use an 8 meg cart instead of a 4 meg cart, and that with a 16 meg cart they could have squeezed everything (missing voice, Chun-Li dress sprite, and backgrounds) into the game. He also said that after working on SFA3 that they could have done a good job porting Street Fighter 3 3rd Strike as well.
Lyte Edge said:
That's exactly right. Mentioned something about US version requireing only about 25% of the space for text used in the Jp one... He was a cool guy. I hope he landed on his feet. The rest of the team too. I got 5 people to buy SFA3, and I rarely go that far out of my way to convince others to get games they normally wouldn't!
Dave Murray...in the Gamefaqs forumsYeah, I remember that. That David guy said after the Japanese release that they had extra room on the cart since the English text took up less space, so they added two more backgrounds (Dan's and Karin's IIRC) into the game. I can't think of many other developers that would take the time to add more content into a GBA game like these guys did; it really sucks they shut down. SFA3 on GBA was amazing. Far from perfect, but still amazing as hell.
David also posted how they had to work to convince Capcom to let them use an 8 meg cart instead of a 4 meg cart, and that with a 16 meg cart they could have squeezed everything (missing voice, Chun-Li dress sprite, and backgrounds) into the game. He also said that after working on SFA3 that they could have done a good job porting Street Fighter 3 3rd Strike as well.
I remember him. Anyways there was a certain E3 build that featured MORE things...like Chun Li's background with all the people dancing...People uses to say that the most important thing is always animation...but when:1. The game has been totally ripped from its original music, voices (shit it's annoying the characters only have a couple of samples) and backgrounds.
2. The game doesn't play the same...mainly due to the control layout...Sorry but I am unable to play decent without a 3+3 configuration.
Then I prefer SFZ3 PSX or even SFZ2 SNES to this. And that's not saying SFZ3 GBA is crap. Actually it's a better effort than the previous too but it feels pretty ripped IMO.
When porting a SFZ title, Capcom should have gone for SFZ2. I am sure they would have had less space problems (less chars, less backgrounds, etc.). If the SNES managed to have the whole game in 32 Mb (8MB cart) (of course there was not full animation...but there were nearly all the stages [waterfalls missing], all the music, backgrounds, voice samples), the GBA could too.
boutrosinit
Street Fighter IV World Champion
Alien Vs Predator (Capcom) >>>>>>> Punisher >>>>>>>> Double Dragon 2 on NES >>>>>>>> Final Fight (one and the other good one, 2 or 3, can;t remember which) >>>>>>>> River City Ransom >>>>> everything else
Whoops. Missed Streets of Rage! Ah well.
As for that trick to unlock Megaman and Akuma, what game is that in? Final Fight on GBA?
Whoops. Missed Streets of Rage! Ah well.
As for that trick to unlock Megaman and Akuma, what game is that in? Final Fight on GBA?