Coffee Dog
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I'll only keep pointing out that Tiki's been around since the first game if you people keep making me.
Fire Emblem Fates' localization doesn't have the petting minigame
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I'll only keep pointing out that Tiki's been around since the first game if you people keep making me.
In what way have they changed? I'm pretty sure many people won't care about an innocuous thing like touching characters faces outside of a gaming forum.
Hmm that might have to be something you talk to your sister about, but dont think this is the topic for that.
OT: didnt care about the petting minigames anyways but since it was optional and you only poked at their faces, cant really see the need to remove it. if anything just remove the prompt to try out the minigame when first available, which im sure they would have done
The amount of people outraged is probably extremely small and most people buying the game won't know or care that some creepy mini-game got scrapped.
Aaron-Lagann
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You're right. We should prioritize all localization. Who needs dialog? All you need to know is your mission objective. That money could be used on other mission objectives in other games!
DICKS AHOY
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Agreed.
Argument could probably be made that content fit in way more with the (somewhat? I haven't played the Yakuza games admittedly) realistic take on Tokyo, plus their removal seemed fueled more by lessening the work load for translators than concern over offending people.
Coffee Dog
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He presented a hypothetical in order to create a fantasy scenario in which the content was seperated from the game. To answer the way you did misses the point a tad.
"GAME ALLOWS PLAYERS TO RUB A MAN'S CHIN!"
Some how I don't really see anyone bothering to publish that story. Doesn't really have any significance unlike say the recent Tomodachi controversy. What's the impact? Wiimotes in TV = damage to property. Violence in games = murder simulators. Pictochat = gateway for pedos to get into your children's lives. Chin rubbing = what?
mullet2000
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You sure showed him.
Vincent Grayson
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What a needlessly antagonistic response.
All games and features of those games are not equal. I am absolutely comfortable saying that I would rather Nintendo spend its time and money localizing more games than on features like this.
Aaron-Lagann
Banned
I've seen anime. Head patting was a large part of it. Nothing could be more appropriate than this mode.
I don't have a moral objection to the content. They are virtual characters who are consenting to the petting, even if I find it creepy.
I just plain find it creepy, and I just plain feel more comfortable supporting games if they don't have that type of content.
Its also not the direction I want to see the series headed, so I am glad to see that they are at least aware that the overseas market might not be receptive to that type of material.
TheRealTalker
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I don't get it
how can humans like getting petted... who does this appeal to? I mean what happiness is there with getting petted unless your an pet animal
how can humans like getting petted... who does this appeal to? I mean what happiness is there with getting petted unless your an pet animal
Coffee Dog
Banned
I just don't understand where this mentality that Fire Emblem used to be a super respectable series that wasn't drowning in anime garbage came from.
NeonZ
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The live 2d models are also used for the confession scenes, replacing the illustrations from Awakening... which is actually a downgrade to me, since the confession illustrations were more personalized.
Professor Beef
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I'm an FE fan myself and I'm pretty happy about it. Shit that deviates from the core appeal of the franchise for dubious reasons like this is also a tumor on the public perception of the franchise that is preventing it from growing and I'm glad Nintendo realizes it. Really FE fans should be all aboard for anything that doesn't compromise the core vision of Fire Emblem but also helps the game be more successful considering that Awakening was one step away from being the very last game in the franchise.
Crash Station
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I've been a Fire Emblem fan since 4.
I wanted it.
No, times have gotten wonky because every little thing is getting the Streisand Effect. The reason no one knew about Nowi was because no one knew, and by the time they did, they didn't care.
If the swimsuit was never removed in Xenoblade X, a few people would see it, be mildly disgusted, and that would be it because no one would know about it otherwise.
Almost every single controversy in recent times has involved censorship in some way, which has driven people with no interest in the product (on both sides) to the discussion, which just makes it grow and grow until it explodes into the nonsense that we have now.
If Nintendo said little about the mode and did not censor it, there would be very little if any controversy.
YianGaruga
Banned
What about this could concievably create a PR nightmare?
Cornbread78
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This kind of good rationalization cannot be heard among those acting disgusted on a online board about a game they were not going to play anyway.
SliceSabre
Banned
Sell it as DLC down the line.
PixyJunket
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Caressing a person's face is weird.
Ripping a person's spine out is fun.
That's some statement to make with that username.
Coffee Dog
Banned
....have you seen how this has been responded to since it's unveiling? Every reaction I've seen to it has been "LOL HOLY SHIT YOU CAN PET MOE GIRLS IN FIRE EMBLEM OH JAPAN"
DICKS AHOY
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Wait, are we talking about the cut Yakuza 3 content or the cut Fates minigame here? I was talking about the former. If you're talking about that too then it's amusingly weird how prevalent head petting apparently is in Japanese media.
Also earlier in this thread I already said while the Fates minigame looked dumb I don't think there was anything real point in cutting the petting minigame. FE is still a niche enough series where I don't think there'd be an uproar from parents for being able to touch an adult's face.
That seemed more along the lines of the general FIRE EMBLEM MORE LIKE WAIFU EMBLEM complaints the series has gotten since Awakening. Nowi in Awakening or the gay conversion stuff in the Japanese Fates are controversial for different reasons to why this face touchign stuff is, at least going off most responses I've seen around the net.
PixyJunket
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Damn, that's quite the exclusion. I was looking forward to experiencing the awkward ridiculousness of interacting with Fire Emblem characters Pokemon Amie style, and while the potential for indulging people's perversions was always there, I don't think that necessarily has to be the primary goal of such minigames.
Oh well. It probably would have gotten old pretty quickly, anyway. I do have to wonder why Nintendo decided to take such a defensive approach to this particular game. I mean, unless the minigame was actually far, far more explicitly erotic than I'm imagining.
Oh well. It probably would have gotten old pretty quickly, anyway. I do have to wonder why Nintendo decided to take such a defensive approach to this particular game. I mean, unless the minigame was actually far, far more explicitly erotic than I'm imagining.
yes because censoring a show for daring to have positive gay representation is tooootally the same thing as getting rid of some weird face touching simulator from a tactical rpg
TheBryanJZX90
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So what would these core tenets be?
I think they just want to avoid the perception that the game is just plain weird. Because this feature was weird. I don't think it's necessarily about sexual overtones. That's just my guess.
YianGaruga
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That's not really what I'd call a PR nightmare. There's nothing media can spin into some kind of story here.
If someone bought the without knowing the mode was included, they'd either use it or not, since it's optional. No one would call FOX News because you can touch some dude's face.
Vincent Grayson
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While I have largely been okay with/agreed with Nintendo's choices in these recent games, I agree with you on that last bit. Almost everything, if not everything, that they've changed, I strongly suspect most people would never even notice were it not called out.
Hell, it can swing both ways, as I suspect that outside of gamers that pay attention to import reviews and such, most FE fans didn't even know this feature existed before today.
Mega Caprison
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So this game suppose to be rated M and now it's gonna be rated E?
No hostess, no gays relationship sidequest, no petting
Next it's gonna be no killing
Sorry not intentionally to be a dick, but they could've have an option on the menu or something
No hostess, no gays relationship sidequest, no petting
Next it's gonna be no killing
Sorry not intentionally to be a dick, but they could've have an option on the menu or something
Coffee Dog
Banned
It's face touching.
It's viewed as sexual because some of the japanese dialogue has implications, and in general face touching is weird as shit.
Crash Station
Member
Also, there's stuff that's FAR more likely to create a PR nightmare still in the game than face touching.
But not things that are there to be a bullet point for the back of the box.
It's baffling how liking seeing in a game an act that is for obvious reasons harmful to someone else and illegal is more socially acceptable than liking petting a consenting character's face.
Some of the dialogue for these scenes are pretty much heavy sexual innuendos. I mean I clicked one from the list posted in this thread and if the subs are accurate your are pretty much turning them on by touching them.
Some of the characters look very young too so it was probably a no no for Nintendo. Seeing what they did in Xenoblade Wii U it's pretty much expected.
Weird can be good. I mean...Awakening was nothing if not weird, and that did quite well for itself.
Crash Station
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Freedom to enjoy what you want (provided it isn't harming anyone) without being shamed? I see the freedom to actually experience said content if you want to as an extension of that.
I don't believe it's a freedom of speech issue because it's well within Nintendo's rights to remove it.
Could just be Nintendo couldn't be bothered to find 68 VAs willing to voice these lines.
Atlus doesn't have a problem finding a dozen or so at a time, but 68 might be a little much to ask for.
SmackAttack
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As someone who's been playing since the first GBA game came out in the States, I think the art style has had a lot to do with it. Personally, I liked the spirte work more before Awakening but I'm pretty sure that's a reason for most.
Opinions are weird, huh?
Nintendo is getting the 68 VAs either way most likely. The series is still voice acted, with or without this content.
And I think in some games, the same VA will cover multiple characters.
Dandy Crocodile
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What?
It's gonna be rated T.
If by "gay relationship sidequest" you mean all the shit surrounding Soleil that stuff is much better off gone from the game. It was atrocious and harmful.
Rewriting content so it's not majorly offensive is different from removing a part of the game that will now be completely inaccessible due to some people's objections.
Well... that was about to get X-Rated real fast.
Good actors can do more than one voice. They don't need 68
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