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[Hero]

Seeing the GCN Fire Emblem preview made me decide to finish this.

I'm at chapter 26x and currently fighting Sonia or whatever. I have a Heaven Seal I want to use but it won't let me use it on Eliwood. I checked on Gamefaq's and it said you can't use it on him during his chapters.

I don't recall choosing to go with Eliwood's tale, as it seems Hector's tale is just a different route. Or am I wrong and after Eliwood we go through Hector's tale?

I tried checking the FAQs but I didn't find it. Excuse my newbie-ness, this was my first FE game.

 

[kiryogi]

You'll know when you're on Hector's route. There will be a choice to choose it after you finish the game one. Now about using the Heaven's seal on Eliwood, you can't, Eliwood will automatically classchange with one that's given as a gift in an event. So use the heaven's seal on Hector or Lyn.

 

[Hero]

You'll know when you're on Hector's route. There will be a choice to choose it after you finish the game one. Now about using the Heaven's seal on Eliwood, you can't, Eliwood will automatically classchange with one that's given as a gift in an event. So use the heaven's seal on Hector or Lyn.

Oh, geez. This game must be mad long. I just killed Sonia, now I'm fighting one of the brothers of Nino. Made it far and then something killed Lyn. -_-

The first Heaven Seal I got I used on Lyndis to turn her into a Blade Master. Queen Hellene (sp?) gave Eliwood another Heaven Seal between chapters. That's not what you're talking about, right?

And should I wait until Hector is maxed to lvl 20 in his base class before evolving him? Or should I just use the Heaven Seal on him now?

Not to complain about the difficulty of the game, but I really wish there were a way to save the game in battle instead of the autosave after every move. It's a bit disheartening to play a map for an hour or so and then have a character die to something stupid.

There are two other Fire Emblem GBA games, right? One with Roy and another seperate one? Which one is coming out state-side this year?

 

[JoshuaJSlone]

Not to complain about the difficulty of the game, but I really wish there were a way to save the game in battle instead of the autosave after every move. It's a bit disheartening to play a map for an hour or so and then have a character die to something stupid.

My least favorite thing about the game, too. I understand why it's the way it is... but since that reason is to stop fools like us from progressing quickly, it's still a pain. :lol

 

[Hero]

My least favorite thing about the game, too. I understand why it's the way it is... but since that reason is to stop fools like us from progressing quickly, it's still a pain. :lol

Yeah. I just feel so stupid when a unit is killed, because it's like "Well shit, I didn't know that guy had a javelin."

They should've released this first instead of Advance Wars. I'm too used to luring out the enemy by sacrificing the weaklings!

 

[kiryogi]

Oh, geez. This game must be mad long. I just killed Sonia, now I'm fighting one of the brothers of Nino. Made it far and then something killed Lyn. -_-

The first Heaven Seal I got I used on Lyndis to turn her into a Blade Master. Queen Hellene (sp?) gave Eliwood another Heaven Seal between chapters. That's not what you're talking about, right?

And should I wait until Hector is maxed to lvl 20 in his base class before evolving him? Or should I just use the Heaven Seal on him now?

Not to complain about the difficulty of the game, but I really wish there were a way to save the game in battle instead of the autosave after every move. It's a bit disheartening to play a map for an hour or so and then have a character die to something stupid.

There are two other Fire Emblem GBA games, right? One with Roy and another seperate one? Which one is coming out state-side this year?

Not the Roy one.

In any case, yeah, try to always wait until lvl20 before you classchange anyone. And as for Eliwood's classchange, it'll automatically happen later if I recall correctly.

and the autosave just demands you use good strategy, one mistake and you'll be severely punished. It's why I love fire emblem more so than advance wars

 

[ge-man]

My least favorite thing about the game, too. I understand why it's the way it is... but since that reason is to stop fools like us from progressing quickly, it's still a pain. :lol

You guys too? I still haven't finished the game because of that issue. I started back up again recently (I was on chapter 19), but I remembered why I haven't pushed on towards completion--the GBA FE really punishes you for mistakes. It's hard to play a map for an hour or so and then watch in horror as one false step ends the life of one of your characters. Does anyone know if the GC FE has this same system, or is this a convention of the series (I'm the under the impression that it's not)?

 

[Hero]

Ugh. The last stage is pissing me off. The AI always goes to the character that has a weakness to it. Grr.

Stupid fire dragon. Louise.

 

[Monk]

Plan ahead. Thats why fire emblem rocks. It is like a chess game. You completely pwn stages if you do it. But somestages were a pain in the ass like the one where the platforms move. @_@

EDIT: Funny thing for you guys, this is supposedly the easiest of the fire emblems. :lol

 

[Jive Turkey]

You'll know when you're on Hector's route. There will be a choice to choose it after you finish the game one. Now about using the Heaven's seal on Eliwood, you can't, Eliwood will automatically classchange with one that's given as a gift in an event. So use the heaven's seal on Hector or Lyn.

Wait, wait, wait...You're talking about the event where Pent gives Eliwood the seal and he tries a change, right? And if you're past that point you can't have Eliwood change classes? Aw man...I rarely use Lyn or Hector.

 

[Tempy]

I've recently restarted and finished Fire Emblem after putting it away for ages after being frustrated at the last level.

The permanent death feature is highly annoying, but it did force me to play BETTER this time around. Protect those low defense units! Often it's better to let the enemies come to you than charging ahead.

And to recap - the three Fire Emblem GBA games are:
* Fire Emblem 6 - This takes place AFTER the events of Fire Emblem 7!
* Fire Emblem 7 - This is the Fire Emblem GBA that us westerners got.
* Fire Emblem 8 - To be released in the west as Fire Emblem: The Sacred Stones.

It would be nice if we got Fire Emblem 6, but I'm not counting on it. There's an ongoing fantranslation, but it'll probably take a while before they're done.

 

[GaimeGuy]

Ugh. The last stage is pissing me off. The AI always goes to the character that has a weakness to it. Grr.

Stupid fire dragon. Louise.

heheh. Luna is your friend.


Or you could just use Athos, then pick him up with a cavalier, move, have him dropped, heal him, and repeat.

You'll have the dragon killed in 3 or 4 turns.

And seriously, FE7 and 8 are ridiculously easy compared to the other FEs. You don't know hard until you play Thracia 776 for the SNES (FE5)

 

[Tempy]

Wait, wait, wait...You're talking about the event where Pent gives Eliwood the seal and he tries a change, right? And if you're past that point you can't have Eliwood change classes? Aw man...I rarely use Lyn or Hector.

I believe you need to be level 20 to have Eliwood be promoted at that point. I'm not sure if you get another chance to promote later on. And Hector (improve his accuracy with items and he'll hack through anything the game throws at him) > Lyn (dodge + critical!) > Eliwood (weaksauce!)

 

[bionic77]

I believe you need to be level 20 to have Eliwood be promoted at that point. I'm not sure if you get another chance to promote later on. And Hector (improve his accuracy with items and he'll hack through anything the game throws at him) > Lyn (dodge + critical!) > Eliwood (weaksauce!)

Yeah Hector is the best character in the game once he gets to the higher levels. Eliwood starts out really strong, but he is not that great at the end of the game. Lyn is ok too.

I actually thought the bosses before the last level were harder than the Dragon. Though it is hard to fight the Dragon without losing one of your weaker characters.

I wish I had known what support was for before I beat the game. I didn't use that at all during the game because I didn't know what it was and thus missed out on some of the better ending stories.

 

[Diomedeskun]

There is no way to keep Eliwood from promoting. He upgrades automatically during the story. It doesn't matter what level he is, he will use the third Heaven Seal.

Anyone having trouble with the game, use arenas to level up, use long levels to build supports, and avoid using marcus to attack. The game will be much much easier.

I'm currently replaying it in Hector's mode. It's pretty easy now that I know the game, but I still occasionally have to restart due to a weak unit getting killed by a long range spell I didn't anticipate.

All you need for the final boss is Hector or Athos. Keep everyone else out of the way. Since the boss never moves, just move Hector in close, but don't attack. Hector will counterattack when he gets attacked, and then you can move him to safety fro healin gon his next turn. Nils can then reactivate him and repeat.

 

[slayn]

how is the difficulty of fire emblem 8 if you start out on hard mode?

the first english fire emblem was pretty easy, even on hector hard mode for me but that was because by then I had gotten used to the game and the levels. I think it would have been a decent challenge had I been able to start out on the hardest difficulty which in this next one to come to the US I believe you can?

Also, if you are playing eliwood's chapters, its impossible to not class change. You couldn't avoid it if you tried.

As for the perma death... I've never liked it. But if they were to remove it from fire emblem they would have to make pretty massive changes to keep the difficulty intact so its just easier and probably better to keep it the way it is. Its not my preference but I'm not optimistic that changing it would succeed quite so well.

If anything, I think they should prolly add a thing in the options when you start the game to switch perma death on/off so that way if someone just wants to see the story and breeze through the game they can.

 

[Hero]

Weird. For me, Hector never did jack shit. He's the one that kept dying on me during the fire dragon fight. He was evolved too...

And what's this Luna you speak of? My Athos didn't do any damage to the fire dragon. I used the holy spell he brought with him plus one of the ones that the super bosses dropped, no damage at all. The one guy with the wife who's an archer tried using Excalibur and it didn't do damage at all.

Even Marcus with the S-class spear that was dropped didn't do anything. And Lyndis, with her ultimate weapon, being a blade master, had a critical attack on the dragon and it did no damage. What gives?

Luckily for me my Eliwood was beefed up. I wouldn't have been able to kill him if it weren't for that.

 

[GaimeGuy]

Luna = awesome dark magic spell. Canas as a druid is your friend.


And yes, Lyn isn't going to work for you. her strength isn't high enough.


....You used Marcus? :lol

 

[slayn]

I can't believe someone actually used Marcus to the end...

for the dragon, I always used Canas and Hector

Hector and Canas have been my best units pretty much every time I've played it.

 

[GaimeGuy]

I used Canas and Athos, I think.

 

[Hero]

I never read any FAQ's on the game up until the last few stages, so what's the deal with Marcus anyway? Everyone makes him out to be so bad, but he's never really failed me, only dying in the last couple of levels.

 

[slayn]

well, first of all, stat wise marcus is crappy. Pretty much any other fighter type character is going to be better in every way.

2nd, in the beginning he's an XP hog, stealign xp away from your characters that need it and making the game a lot harder since you'll have lower level characters overall.

 

[JJConrad]

I never read any FAQ's on the game up until the last few stages, so what's the deal with Marcus anyway? Everyone makes him out to be so bad, but he's never really failed me, only dying in the last couple of levels.

That's the problem with him. He kicks so much butt in the early stages, but then gets his ass whooped in the final stages. That wouldn't be so bad, except he gets less EXP from battle (or requires more to level up), wasting what could be better used on the other characters, many of whom will be stronger at the end of the game.

I used Marcus a lot at in my first time through. I got to the final boss but none of my characters were strong enough to defeat it. Marcus was my only level 20 character and he couldn't even begin to handle it.

 

[Monk]

Marcus however makes a great tank to lure enemies.

 

[GaimeGuy]

Your characters were weak because you used all your experience on marcus. statwise, he's horrible. a level 14 or 15 Sain or Kent cavalier will equal or surpass Marcus' initial stats, when he's promoted. His stat gains aren't that good, either.

Stay away from using marcus AT ALL COSTS.

 

[BorkBork]

:lol :lol Marcus gets so much hate...
Totally deserves it tho, stupid stuck up exp hog!

 

[Hero]

Okay, so how exactly are you supposed to 'know' this without consulting a FAQ or a guide or hearing it from someone else?

No wonder I had such a hard time. That asshole.

 

[GaimeGuy]

Okay, so how exactly are you supposed to 'know' this without consulting a FAQ or a guide or hearing it from someone else?

No wonder I had such a hard time. That asshole.

Experience. There's always a low stat exp hog in the FE games.

But seriously, I dunno. Personally, I didn't need anyone's warning, as I saw how marcus took up all the xp myself. I saw how other characters gained more exp from killing enemies, and figured it would be better to have many strong guys than one. I quickly also realized, as some of my characters gained stats throughout the levels, that his stats kind of sucked.

Not to mention I had my suspicions from the begining, as no developer would give you a strong character from the start without some kind of catch.

 

[bionic77]

Okay, so how exactly are you supposed to 'know' this without consulting a FAQ or a guide or hearing it from someone else?

No wonder I had such a hard time. That asshole.

I didn't figure it out until it was too late to fix it so I had to start over. I also recommend using Florina a lot. She totally sucks at first, but can become really powerful if you stick with her. She seems to avoid like every hit after a certain point.

And there are probably some things you can't figure out without using a FAQ, but that is true of every RPG and SRPG.

 

[GaimeGuy]

and is it just me, or does matthew dodge at a WAAAAY better rate than the in-battle dodge rates show? Like, they'll say 20%, but he'll dodge like 19 out of 20 attacks.

 

[bionic77]

and is it just me, or does matthew dodge at a WAAAAY better rate than the in-battle dodge rates show? Like, they'll say 20%, but he'll dodge like 19 out of 20 attacks.

Yeah his dodge rate was almost as good as Florina's. If I play it through a 3rd time I will try and max out his stats and see how good he can end up being.

I figure he will be like a more powerful Jaffar, who seemed to be too weak for the end of the game (like 90% of the characters).

 

[slayn]

Jaffar is actually pretty good, if you're looking for an assassin to send into battle.
in comparing him to matthew and legault, he has by far the best skill and the best power. He also has the best defense in both magical and physical. He's a bit slower than the two thives, but where he's servely lacking is in his HP and luck. So you might have a bit of trouble keeping him alive. But if you can keep his health good, he's the most deadly assassin easily capable of killing far more enemies than either matthew or legault.

As for Matthew vs Legault, Legault is quite a bit better in almost every way.

Either way, theres really no reason to use matthew unless you missed Legault.

This all assumes of course that the game actually pays attention to the stats and doesn't give matthew an intrisic 90% dodge ability or something. Which I doubt.