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Firefox |OT|
- Thread starter Izick
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Couldn't find the firefox os thread, so I'll put this here.
http://arstechnica.com/information-...desktop-computer-with-new-b2g-nightly-builds/
http://arstechnica.com/information-...desktop-computer-with-new-b2g-nightly-builds/
I don't know, but the more competition the better. I like that these mobile OS's are pushing each other due to stiff competition.
Adam Scott Aukerman
Member
Just updated to FF15. I'm seeing zero differences, so far.
I'm really getting fed up with Mozilla constantly fucking up Firefox to be more like Chrome. If I wanted Firefox to be more like Chrome, I'd just fucking dumb this POS browser. With every new version it seems I have to install yet another addon to revert their shitty changes. Currently more than half of my addons were added just to get back functionality that Mozilla decided to remove or "improve" upon.
old default image style
switch to tab no more
status 4 ever
favicon inserter
site identity button colors
And then there's all the config changes just to remove all the dumb shit they added or changed, like the about:tab page, the gimmicky download icon, the laggy smooth scrolling, domain highlighting, url bar completion, url bar word highlights, the hidden protocol and whatever else I may have forgotten.
What happened to "just" being a small, fast browser?
old default image style
switch to tab no more
status 4 ever
favicon inserter
site identity button colors
And then there's all the config changes just to remove all the dumb shit they added or changed, like the about:tab page, the gimmicky download icon, the laggy smooth scrolling, domain highlighting, url bar completion, url bar word highlights, the hidden protocol and whatever else I may have forgotten.
What happened to "just" being a small, fast browser?
Is Flash crashing in FF for anyone else? I have latest official release version of FF (i assume, due to auto-update) and probably latest FLash as well. Everytime i first open a page using Flash, the Firefox crashes, or nearly so anyway. Kinda frustrating. This has been happening for ages now, i have no idea how many times i've updated Flash...
Adam Scott Aukerman
Member
Canis lupus
Member
Yep it does that to me too since the 14 release :/
Uno Venova
Banned
I've been enjoying most of the changes they've been making, especially a centered image viewer with a darker background, easier on the eyes.
No, not really. It might be now, but when they released Firebird, it was meant as a fast alternative to IE, adding some crucial features that IE 6 was badly missing such as tabs.
Mozilla Firebird is a speedy, full-featured browser that makes browsing more efficient than ever before.
beat
Member
This so much. Especially when they fuck up long-established keybindings like Ctrl-E. It was briefly stolen to use for the Panorama feature, but user outcry got them to move that to another key... and then they didn't restore the previous functionality for Ctrl-E, so that just became a dead hotkey. Idiots.
I'm using Aurora (currently at version 16), so maybe it's different in the standard version, but here Ctrl+E moves the focus to the search bar.
beat
Member
Maybe they finally fixed it then. I pretty clearly remember at the time that when they moved Panorama to Ctrl-Shift-E, they left Ctrl-E an unused keybinding.
Mad Hatter
Member
Ctrl-E moves focus to search bar in FF 15b too.
added_time
Member
Everyone having these Flash problems should follow the instructions on this page to disable Protected Mode.
It fixed the problem for me on all three of my computers:
http://techlogon.com/2012/06/10/early-problems-with-flash-player-protected-mode-in-firefox-13/
14 release too.
Seems like you just don't like new things.
I used to care about the taskbar, but now I realize it does take away some viewing space. I don't know what switch to tab is. The new image viewer is fine, favicons are visible on tabs, though I don't really understand their removal. I don't know what the identity color thing is.
The only one that still makes me wonder is the removal of the window title. I know Windows hides it, but there's a huge area right next to the Firefox button where a title fits -- and yes, there is an extension for that.
Yep. That bothers me so much.
Unless you like having tabs on top (which I don't), it's just wasted space that could be used for the titles (which I miss).
I use a script to make FF look like this:
Much better than the default options, IMO.
I use a script to make FF look like this:
Much better than the default options, IMO.
What is that download counter thing on the right-hand side?
Firefox's new update system is garbage. I used to look forward to updating Firefox to see whats new. But now updates come at random and disrupt my work. Never have that problem with Chrome - it always seems up to date, without me doing anything. EDIT: Oh this is coming soon. As far as I'm concerned, they should not have switched to a new release schedule until this was implemented.
I also can't believe it has been a year and they still don't support Lion scroll bars. Mountain Lion will be out in a week, and they don't fully support the last version of OS X.
I also can't believe it has been a year and they still don't support Lion scroll bars. Mountain Lion will be out in a week, and they don't fully support the last version of OS X.
I think only Firefox 15 (currently Beta) will have a process running 24/7 like Chrome to allow updates while the browser is closed. (But both browsers still need to restart to update.)
I want all addons/userscripts to work without having to close FireFox. There are loads of times where I want to test out an addon/userscript but am also downloading at the same time. Contrary to FF's belief, downloads usually tend to stop/corrupt instead of restarting when the browser is opened again.
Yep
They're trying to make it more like Chrome because Chrome is the best browser on the market right now. You can't just give up and say "oh, well I guess we have to just stick to this way," because that shit will only make you lose more users.
Mozilla still has an advantage in extensions and privacy. Extensions like NoScript keep users on Firefox, and there are still a lot of people out there who are weird about Google's privacy stuff, even though it's not that intrusive if you tell them not to track you.
Mozilla needs to play catch-up for now. Catch up with the UI, with the responsiveness, and catch-up with a few other things. Things change all the time. The majority of people use Chrome now, but give it a few months, and everything could be completely different.
Mozilla still has an advantage in extensions and privacy. Extensions like NoScript keep users on Firefox, and there are still a lot of people out there who are weird about Google's privacy stuff, even though it's not that intrusive if you tell them not to track you.
Mozilla needs to play catch-up for now. Catch up with the UI, with the responsiveness, and catch-up with a few other things. Things change all the time. The majority of people use Chrome now, but give it a few months, and everything could be completely different.
Ehh, I would've kept the old nav buttons. Might get used to it tho
Wait what? I don't like this... Don't want processes if I don't need em, and certainly not 24/7
Souldriver
Member
Okay, FF is seriously starting to annoy me.
First of, even when I do a complete cleaning of my browsing history, URLs from websites I've visited earlier show up in the URL bar when I type anything (f.e.: if I type "n" it'll show neogaf.com as suggestion even after everything has been "deleted").
And more importantly, Flash has been a piece of shit in the recent FF versions. Lots of crashes, weird behavior, and slowing down general responsiveness of the browser.
Fuck this shit. I'm actually considering Chrome because of it (typing this in Chrome right now), even though I assume it's actually Adobe's fault and not Mozilla's.
First of, even when I do a complete cleaning of my browsing history, URLs from websites I've visited earlier show up in the URL bar when I type anything (f.e.: if I type "n" it'll show neogaf.com as suggestion even after everything has been "deleted").
And more importantly, Flash has been a piece of shit in the recent FF versions. Lots of crashes, weird behavior, and slowing down general responsiveness of the browser.
Fuck this shit. I'm actually considering Chrome because of it (typing this in Chrome right now), even though I assume it's actually Adobe's fault and not Mozilla's.
That's odd, do you use anything like CCleaner to erase history or just Firefox's built in thing?
Someone posted this as a possible fix to the Flash problems.
You sure its not your bookmarks? You should try a clean install. Erase all the profile folders and left over program folders.
Pay attention to "time range" you're deleting. If you're using the menu option, by default, it's only the last hour. You have to change to "everything".
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
For some reason FF15 seems to run way worse than FF14. It's slow, unresponsive, and seems to hog significantly more memory than FF14 did. Hadn't it been for all the extensions and scripts I regularly use in FF, I would've switched to Chrome already, because FF has frankly become a horribly slow piece of shit in comparison.
Souldriver
Member
I use CCleaner, and Click&Clean for FF itself, I even messed around in the profile folders of Firefox and deleted everything I have. I even did a clean install (by which I stupidly lost all my bookmarks), and yet it does this. I've disabled all my add-ons to see if it was one of those causing the problem. But to no avail. I can't get rid of my browsing history. I type "n" and neogaf.com appears, I type "j" and japanesewomanfucksoctopus.com appears. Very annoying...
And honestly really weird. Why did this suddenly start happening?And I've also already tried to Flash fix that was suggested. Marathonfix was even kind enough to PM me with some suggestions. But this also doesn't have any effect at all. Flash keeps crashing, slowing down Firefox, and in general it just behaves weird. Like say, I have youtube open in a tab, and I go to another tab and then return to youtube, the place where the video should be playing keeps showing a segment of the other tab. It's only when I start scrolling and hoovering with my mouse over the video, that the actual video/player appears.
added_time
Member
One other thing that was causing bad crashes for me on youtube was having the HTML5 beta activated by google. I never actually activated it mind you but I had to go and turn it off to get some youtube videos to work again.
Souldriver
Member
You need to log in to youtube to turn on/off this option. I'm never logged in, so for me personally that can't be the problem. And btw, it happens with everything flash related, not just youtube.
added_time
Member
I actually wasn't logged into youtube! I don't even have an account! I just went to this page: http://www.youtube.com/html5 and the beta box was on! It must have set a cookie on my computer or something. Anyways, it's too bad that the protected mode thing didn't fix it for you since it worked on multiple computers for me... either way, it should have never come to having to do this.
Have you tried uninstalling the Flash plugin and installing an old version? Like version 10?
I use CCleaner, and Click&Clean for FF itself, I even messed around in the profile folders of Firefox and deleted everything I have. I even did a clean install (by which I stupidly lost all my bookmarks), and yet it does this. I've disabled all my add-ons to see if it was one of those causing the problem. But to no avail. I can't get rid of my browsing history. I type "n" and neogaf.com appears, I type "j" and japanesewomanfucksoctopus.com appears. Very annoying...
Have you tried ctrl+shif+del on Firefox to delete everything?
A new install still looks for your old profiles. If you want to delete all your profiles, open Fiefox with the command "firefox -p". Make sure to choose "delete files" (and that the folder isn't open on Explorer or else it can't be deleted)
If you go the brute force way, you need to make sure you're deleting stuff from the right profile folder (go to about:support and click the profile folder button, and close Firefox after).
And so that you don't lose all your bookmarks, back them up before you erase anything.
Go to the bookmarks thing and click on Import and Backup.
Also you don't have to sing in to change HTML5 settings.
Go to the bookmarks thing and click on Import and Backup.
That's most likely related to video acceleration.
Also you don't have to sing in to change HTML5 settings.