HeisenbergFX4
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Yet no game really pushes these consoles and we dont need Pro consoles
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First Baldur's Gate 3 PS5 Impressions - "No Stable 60FPS - Performance vs Quality Mode"
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Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
> John is no German
> Proceeds to say the wrong nationality anyway
John is American, guys.
feynoob
Banned
It's going to be like that for a long time.Yet no game really pushes these consoles and we dont need Pro consoles
PC CPU/GPU evolves overtime, while consoles are stuck with 1 CPU/GPU for it's entire generation.
Pro generation is just a duct tape.
Ivory Samoan
Gold Member
Lol.....come on man, you think Larian (of all company's) would knock out a 'dogshit port'?
Demanding game is hella demanding, PS5 doing the best it can, not sure why people expect any different on a console with a hearty PC game. For the record, I own all the consoles and am not biased in any way against them, but you can only achieve so much with ageing hardware vs top of the line PCs.
Pro models are 100% welcome by me, bring em on.
DaleinCalgary
Member
43 seconds to load and no 60 fps means I won't be trying it.
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
Ivory Samoan
Gold Member
If by inferior you mean it is going to be graphically hobbled to get it to run, then every cross plat game is inferior in some way then?
BootsLoader
Banned
So it is MS money that talk, right?
twilo99
Member
You don't need 60 fps with game, its very slow.
twilo99
Member
Consoles holding back gaming confirmed?
Loading times measured in minutes are actually indicative of underutilizing the hardware - not pushing anything. Goes for this and Starfield alike - as well as many high-profile PC releases over the past 2 years.
Granted - that's just one dimension - but suffice to say at least part of their tech stacks are clearly built for and around last-gen hardware.
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Stuart360
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To be fair even high end PC's can struggle in Balders Gate city in Act 3. They are probably runnung way higher settings of course but still.
I'm sure most people realized that games would be considerably more demanding once we strated getting none cross gen games but i have been quite surprised the kind of limitations need on the consoles in terms of settings, resolution etc, to just get servicable performance.
These consoles are not weak, and were actually quite good by console standards at launch.
Yes optimizations has been shit the last 4 or 5 years, and the release of upscaler tech has made that even worse, but still i was expecting someof these games to be running and looking like this at the end of the gen, nat barely the middle of the gen.
I'm sure most people realized that games would be considerably more demanding once we strated getting none cross gen games but i have been quite surprised the kind of limitations need on the consoles in terms of settings, resolution etc, to just get servicable performance.
These consoles are not weak, and were actually quite good by console standards at launch.
Yes optimizations has been shit the last 4 or 5 years, and the release of upscaler tech has made that even worse, but still i was expecting someof these games to be running and looking like this at the end of the gen, nat barely the middle of the gen.
The Cockatrice
Banned
Also to be fair, and I just timed it, loading times on PC are also pretty big. Quick loading or loading a fresh start or teleporting to a new area which is the same as quick loading, on a standard SATA SSD, it takes 25'ish seconds. on m2, maybe 5 seconds less. And it's the kind of game you'll be loading a lot. It's very annoying on PC and I reckon double the load times on PS5 will be even more annoying.
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feynoob
Banned
So mini bethesda then.
Fabieter
Member
The freedom and rpg system is out of Bethesdas league.
Maddoxswe
Member
Nice try
Putonahappyface
Gold Member
Unknown?
Member
Lol a bunch of people saying it's because it's a PC game with no real knowledge. If that's really true then 90% of everyone's PCs would play this like trash.
Series S is going to be 480p.
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feynoob
Banned
That is what happens when you dont use an old engine for a long time.
Bethesda is like old man at this stage.
Fabieter
Member
I don't talk the tech. Their rpgs elements were alot better with tes 3 but they went backwards ever since while larian went for player choice big time.
Markio128
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I haven’t noticed any discernible drops in either mode. I played the first couple of hours in performance mode and it ran well. For the last few hours I’ve been playing in quality mode and the fps have been solid as far as I can tell and there is definitely a decent jump in visual clarity, so I’m sticking with quality mode.
Let me put it this way, I haven’t once given a second thought to the performance whilst playing either mode.
Rocco Schiavone
Member
Load times: Fast travel took 43~ seconds.
PS5 read speed is 5.5 GB.
PS5 read speed is 5.5 GB.
FinalBossWithTheMostPower
Member
Wow. Past time for me to upgrade.
I'm running Ryzen 7 1700, 32GB, GTX 1070, NVME 3rd gen.
ManaByte
Member
Well, I can see why there were no reviews of the PS5 version before the $80 pre-order access.
Gamerguy84
Member
PC devs don't give a shit about optimization. I mean, there's no reason to look at Elden Ring. That's what a 4080/90 is for.
are you guys still coping with starfield mc?
get over it already it’ll only get lower.
Lucifers Beard
Member
Does the PS5 version support FSR2? My Steam Deck would like to know.
Physiognomonics
Member
PS5 Pro won't help that game much as it's rumored to have a very slight CPU boost. Not the >2x the GPU will have.Yet no game really pushes these consoles and we dont need Pro consoles
twilo99
Member
Why not? Its an amazing game.
splattered
Member
Yet no game really pushes these consoles and we dont need Pro consoles
To be fair I would totally buy pro consoles even if we didn't NEED them
twilo99
Member
There should be more PC centric games that don't compromise development because of the plastic boxes. Both ER and BG3 are great games..
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
I love booting up new hardware for that first time so I am right there with yaTo be fair I would totally buy pro consoles even if we didn't NEED them
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
If they have a nice trade in deal, I might consider upgrading as well.
twilo99
Member
Correct. Only current or next Gen CPU architecture would help, neither of which will be present in the "pro"
fallingdove
Member
Why do you think? Starfield doesn’t have the impact these warriors were hoping for…have to turn back to tearing down PS5 games.
ByWatterson
Member
I'm ahead of the curve. Been playing at 30 again since Hogwarts Legacy for games with serious 60fps tradeoffs.
I'm iiiiin (after Sea or Stars, LOL).
I'm iiiiin (after Sea or Stars, LOL).
blastprocessor
The Amiga Brotherhood
At first glance this appears to be a CPU heavy title.
YeulEmeralda
Linux User
Lots of hyperbole the CPU in the PS5 isn't a decade old.
Bojji
Member
But this game is super CPU heavy and even the best available CPUs right now aren't much above 60fps. CPU that is around the same performance ad PS5 runs this game around 30fps too in act 3. You can blame developers of course, they have chosen to make this game that way. But in act 3 you actually see where this power goes, there is a lot of heavy CPU stuff on the display.
Games that are pushing boundaries will be 30 fps on this consoles, this is reality.
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Tedditalk
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You mean the company that released an unfinished product, advertising content for the ps5 version of the game (The upper city) that not even in the full game? Larian is a studio like any other. They are not special.