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First clip from Pee-wee’s Big Holiday

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studyguy

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I remember hearing about Pee Wee getting caught up in a masturbation scandal and thinking it was tremendously funny more than shocking or anything else. Otherwise I didn't give a shit.
 
He was arrested but not completely charged for having nude pictures of minors:
Ok, that's a problem. I don't recall hearing about this.
Not a real problem. I believe he bought lots of vintage pornography and there was "artsy" porn that cops/prosecutors tried to make out to be more than it was. My father, an accomplished fine art photographer, once bought a collection of nude photos that Lewis Carroll took of children (specifically because, holy shit, Lewis Carroll took nude pictures of kids?!). As pornography it's as boring as Victorian porn could get, yet I suppose it's technically CP. So is a copy of a Traci Lords porn movie, or the cover of Blind Faith's album.
I mean, what's the point if you can't jerk it in one of these establishments?

Did someone report him hoping to shit on a celebrity?
Undercover cops used to sit in porno theaters and arrest people for masturbating. Can you imagine, someone masturbating to pornography? Heaven forfend!
 
My daughter and I watch Pee Wee's Playhouse everyday. It's easily her favorite show, so I'm very hopeful she'll enjoy this movie. Can't wait!
 

rec0ded1

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I finally know what my parents felt like when I watched Pee Dubs. It must be the same confused feeling I get when kids go nuts over youtbers. Hmmm Pee Wee is the primordial youtuber.
 

Captain Pants

Killed by a goddamned Dredgeling
that was pre Buffy- so yeah I think so (ages ago)

Is this the new means of measuring time? Pre Buffy and After Buffy. PB and AB? In that case, is it the year 19AB or the year 24AB? I've never seen the movie, and didn't know if people are counting that as the dawn of Buffy, or if it goes from the start of the show.
 

CDX

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He was arrested but not completely charged for having nude pictures of minors:

From Wikipedia:
Pornography arrest: 2002

In November 2002, while filming David LaChapelle's video for Elton John's "This Train Don't Stop There Anymore", Reubens learned that police were at his home with a search warrant, acting on a tip from a witness in the pornography case against actor Jeffrey Jones,[67] finding among over 70,000 items of kitsch memorabilia, two grainy videotapes and dozens of photographs that the city attorney's office characterized as a collection of child pornography.[2] Kelly Bush, Reubens' personal representative at the time, said the description of the items was inaccurate and claimed the objects were "Rob Lowe's sex videotape, and a few 30- to 100-year-old kitsch collectible images."[68] Reubens turned himself in to the Hollywood division of the LAPD and was charged with possession of obscene material improperly depicting a child under the age of 18 in sexual conduct.[69] The District Attorney looked at Reubens' collection and computer and found no grounds for bringing any felony charges against him, while the city attorney, Rocky Delgadillo brought misdemeanor charges against Reubens on the last day allowed by the statute.[70] Reubens was represented by Hollywood criminal defense lawyer Blair Berk.[71] In December he pleaded not guilty through Berk, who also complained that the city attorney failed to turn over evidence to the defense, which City Attorney Richard Katz countered that prosecutors were not required to do until after arraignment, after which they did; neither side disclosed the contents.[72]




"One thing I want to make very, very clear, I don't want anyone for one second to think that I am titillated by images of children. It's not me. You can say lots of things about me. And you might. The public may think I'm weird. They may think I'm crazy or anything that anyone wants to think about me. That's all fine. As long as one of the things you're not thinking about me is that I'm a pedophile. Because that's not true."

Paul Reubens on the charges.[26]

In March 2004, child pornography charges were dropped in exchange for Reubens' guilty plea to a lesser charge. For the next three years he had to register his address with the sheriff's office and could not be in the company of minors without their parents' permission.[26] Reubens later stated that he was a collector of erotica, including films, muscle magazines and a sizable collection of mostly homosexual vintage erotica,[2] such as photographic studies of teen nudes.[26] Reubens claimed that what the city attorney's office viewed as pornography, he considered to be innocent art and that what they described as people underage engaged in masturbation or oral copulation was in fact a judgmental point of view of the nudes that Reubens described as people "one hundred percent not" performing sexual acts.[26] Being a big collector, Reubens had often bought in bulk, with one of his vintage magazine dealers declaring that "there's no way" he could have known the content of each page in the publications he bought and that he recalled Reubens asking for "physique magazines, vintage 1960s material, but not things featuring kids".[2]

If the bulk of his collection was "vintage erotica" in general, and a few pics happened to be of teens. That paints a completely different picture in my mind compared to if the bulk of his collection was "vintage teen erotica". Since the DA looked at his PC and found no grounds for felony charges, I'm hoping he was just a collector of "vintage erotica" in general and wasn't into the kid or teen stuff. Basically I'd have to know more about his complete collection to properly judge how I feel.

As for the Rob Lowe sex tape. That'd be bizarre if it brought down Paul Reubens, but not Rob Lowe himself for fucking a teenager.
 

Jarlaxle

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Absolutely love Pee Wee's Big Adventure. Here's hoping this is close to that but I'm not holding my breath.

My kids also enjoy Pee Wee as we all call my wife Conkey. I can't remember how that started but it still brings a smile to my face when my 5 year old says that mommy is Conkey.
 
Did Mr Rogers break any laws doing so?
It's a stupid law and a waste of police resources to enforce. Public indecency statutes should be applied if someone is lewd and lascivious in a open setting where that activity is unexpected. In a pornographic theater, no such expectation would exist. The theater management expects such behavior to occur; in fact, if it were actively discouraged, they would have lost business. Literally a victimless crime.
 

Angry Grimace

Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
why does he look the same as he did in Pee Wee's Big Adventure
 
Pee-Wee was never much of a thing here in the UK but my son's random button pressing on a remote control ended up putting an episode of Playhouse on via Netflix when he was less than a year old. He's approaching two now and he absolutely loves all the old episodes. Aside from Pee-Wee's Japanese pen pal Oki Doki (seriously) it's aged really well.

He probably isn't wearing any more makeup now than he was back then (28 years ago?), since in his close ups you can see he was absolutely caked in the stuff back in the day.
 

Kevin

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This is how I feel right now after seeing that clip...

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The Real Abed

Perma-Junior
I was huge fan and was bummed out his show was canceled.
His show wasn't cancelled so much as it was ended mutually by Rubens and CBS. And the deal was done before the scandal took place. It just happened to be at the same time the show aired its last episode. As a kid I asked my dad why he was arrested and he told me "for having his fly down in public" to scare me into making sure I always zipped up. I guess technically he was right.

It was all silly anyway.

If the bulk of his collection was "vintage erotica" in general, and a few pics happened to be of teens. That paints a completely different picture in my mind compared to if the bulk of his collection was "vintage teen erotica". Since the DA looked at his PC and found no grounds for felony charges, I'm hoping he was just a collector of "vintage erotica" in general and wasn't into the kid or teen stuff. Basically I'd have to know more about his complete collection to properly judge how I feel.
As a collector, like most eccentric collectors who have a lot of money, he bought stuff in bulk and probably never actually looked through it. Plus, the pre-80s were a completely different time. And a lot of it might not even have been marked with the ages of the people in the photos. It wasn't illegal to show nude minors in film at that point. That law was passed relatively recently. What do you mean PC? This was all physical media. This was 1991. You didn't have an internet with JPGs of porn on a hard drive. You had books with pages and photographs and film strips. He was a collector in the same way many of us are. He just collected something a bit more questionable.


Anyway, welcome back Pee-Wee. Rubens never ages.
 

Zubz

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He was arrested but not completely charged for having nude pictures of minors:


From Wikipedia:

That's definitely not cool, but I can see him having that imagery just because he bought porn en masse, not because he's a pedophile. It's definitely pervy, and the case could be made that Reubens is a pedophile in a court of law. However, without further evidence, I think he's just a creep. Which is a surprise to no one. IMO, the biggest thing here is that Rob Lowe has a sex tape.

Anyway, I loved the old movies, so I'm still in for this.
 
"Everyone I know has a big but. How about you Simone. what's your big but? "

"...wow Pee Wee, no one's ever put it to me like that before."
 

Strax

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As someone not from the US and never seen his show/movies(?) I would like ask one thing.

Has he always been a "always happy child" version of Mr. Bean like in this trailer?
 

Dicer

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He can't do the voice as well anymore, but that's to be expected...

As for his "scandal" it's nothing, even the vintage porn stuff wasn't even the bulk of the collection just mixed in with other vintage art, it's literally itsfuckingnothing.gif

Not feeling the OG charm, but we shall see.
 

Symphonia

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That's definitely not cool, but I can see him having that imagery just because he bought porn en masse, not because he's a pedophile. It's definitely pervy, and the case could be made that Reubens is a pedophile in a court of law. However, without further evidence, I think he's just a creep. Which is a surprise to no one. IMO, the biggest thing here is that Rob Lowe has a sex tape.

Anyway, I loved the old movies, so I'm still in for this.
Wait, explain to me how you can be found in possession of child porn and not be a pedophile. If that's your 'defense' for the case, then does that mean Jared Fogle isn't a pedophile, he's just your everyday pervert who just happened to have thousands of images and videos of children on his computer?
 
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