First Halo 4 GI information (Spartan OPs, multi, etc) [Update: Campaign/More Details]

Moving back on topic. Pics look good buy i hope to god the final image on my TV looks that clean

I have memories of playing Halo 3 for the first time and going hmmm at how jaggy it looked.

Reach was better looking and this looks from pics to be on a few levels above that. Hopefully the wait for direct capture footage is short.
 
Dabanton said:
Moving back on topic. Pics look good buy i hope to god the fial image onmy TV looks that clean

I have memories of playing Halo 3 for the first time and going hmmm at how jaggy it looked.

Reach was better looking and this looks from pics to be on a few levels above that. Hopefully the wait for direct capture footage is short.
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My memories of first playing Reach was thinking my TV was broken, I was about to look up how to fix ghosting issues until I checked a normal TV channel and found it was the just the game.
 
Was this posted?
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Some people must notice ghosting a lot, i didn't notice it in Reach or Crysis 2 *shrug* I guess it's supposed to be this terrible problem or something
 
Draft said:
Are Bungie a bunch of coding clowns or what? Because this looks like a million times better than any Halo game they dropped on the 360.
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I wish I could roll my eyes harder than I'm doing so right now... Or hit you in the head with a baseball bat.

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I must be suffering from early-onset demetia because this still looks fantastic to me. Yes, I know it's a bullshot, just imagine some jagged edges on there.
 
TUROK said:
I wish I could roll my eyes harder than I'm doing so right now... Or hit you in the head with a baseball bat.

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I must be suffering from early-onset demetia because this still looks fantastic to me. Yes, I know it's a bullshot, just imagine some jagged edges on there.
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Why are you posting a pics from a cut sceen to make your point?
 
Gui_PT said:
No one come in here with the "meh" comment yet?

Guess the campaign looks that good
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Well if the game looked like shit in those pics there would've been a lot of meh/looks like crap/it's not real-time posts from the usual "I have all Halo games but they are still crap" clowns that shit on every Halo 4 thread...instead the game looks amazing and that's why you don't see any of these Halo "fans" making a positive comment.
 
Well done 343, game looks fantastic.
Really looking forward to seeing the campaign in action.
But give us more options with forge or don't include it at all.
 
In the first three Halo games, multiplayer worked because you started with the same run speed and health and jump height and melee strength as the next guy. You had the same base attributes and an identical set of tools, and to win all you had to do was use them better. If you wanted shinier tools, you picked them up in the map or stole them off the body of someone who found them first. It was never perfect—BXR, sword flying, and other tricks let quick-fingered players trample the less capable, and there were always issues with map layouts and spawning—but in principle Halo's gameplay was grounded in the simplicity of uniform elements that gave no player an inherent advantage.

Reach changed all this with randomizing factors like armor abilities, playable Elites, and reticle bloom. That was Bungie's big misstep in their unfortunate effort to update Halo's formula. I thought 343 might recognize this, but Wu's report leaves me doubtful that the lesson was learned. The most concerning item is the perks that change your character's base attributes, like regen rate and ammo limit. This sounds like a terrible idea. The last thing I want Halo to become is a different flavor of Call of Duty.

The screenshots do look nice though, lol. And to be honest, I'm interested mainly in the campaign.
 
"We are not supporting 3D TVs or Kinect for Halo 4," said O'Connor.
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This is awesome news, Kinect support in CEA was useless and only worked to changed my brightness levels without me even knowing it.

343 is already giving Halo 4 the largest levels the series has ever seen,
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Frankie probably doesn't visit this thread much, but does anyone know if he was talking about the campaign or MP regarding level size? I know the word levels usually refers to the campaign while "maps" is used to describe areas in the MP, but was just double checking. =p

Draft said:
Are Bungie a bunch of coding clowns or what? Because this looks like a million times better than any Halo game they dropped on the 360.
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We've seen a few screenshots of the first level showing narrow corridors. I would wait to see how the following, more expansive, levels look before making any assumptions or claims. Assuming they even have large open levels comparable to past Halo games.

My main fear is that they may be pulling a Halo 2 by downsizing the scope of the campaign for prettier graphics.

specialguy said:
Some people must notice ghosting a lot, i didn't notice it in Reach or Crysis 2 *shrug* I guess it's supposed to be this terrible problem or something
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The ghosting was more manageable in Crysis 2, but it was rather apparent when it did happen in both games. Watch the opening cut-scene in Reach, when Jorge picks up his helmet or when Carter jumps off the falcon. It's very obvious in both of those scenes.
 
TUROK said:
I wish I could roll my eyes harder than I'm doing so right now... Or hit you in the head with a baseball bat.

http://xbox360media.ign.com/xbox360/image/article/110/1109806/halo-reach-20100803093010920.jpg[IMG]

I must be suffering from early-onset demetia because this still looks fantastic to me. Yes, I know it's a bullshot, just imagine some jagged edges on there.[/QUOTE]
Don't waste your breathe on such posts, foolishness like that such just laughed at.
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Just thinking aloud:

Didn't Bungie say that they couldn't do native 720p because of their HDR lighting model?

Wondering what the compromise is going to be - guess they simply changed the lighting system.... or?
 
NinjaFusion said:
Just thinking aloud:

Didn't Bungie say that they couldn't do native 720p because of their HDR lighting model?

Wondering what the compromise is going to be - guess they simply changed the lighting system.... or?
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They also said they couldn't have the BR in ODST because it wouldn't fit...
 
Zeouterlimits said:
And so does Halo 4, especially some of the Armour textures.

Halo Reach's SP is pretty fantastic on a technical level.
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That stuff is hard to notice even in screens, but aliasing and ghosting ruins tarnishes every elemt of the visuals, for all we know 4 will be just as bad but saying Bungie didn't mess up is wrong.
 
EuropeOG is trolling, before anyone freaks out.
Alienshogun said:
They also said they couldn't have the BR in ODST because it wouldn't fit...
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Bertone, the Design Director didn't like the BR.

ODST was fantastic without the BR.
B_Rik_Schitthaus said:
That stuff is hard to notice even in screens, but aliasing and ghosting ruins tarnishes every elemt of the visuals, for all we know 4 will be just as bad but saying Bungie didn't mess up is wrong.
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As is saying Bungie are coding clowns.
 
NinjaFusion said:
Just thinking aloud:

Didn't Bungie say that they couldn't do native 720p because of their HDR lighting model?

Wondering what the compromise is going to be - guess they simply changed the lighting system.... or?
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I think they said that about Halo 3, but they obviously came a lot closer with Reach. The latter didn't have the bloomfest explotions, but to me that seemed more like an artistic choice than a technical one.
 
Zeouterlimits said:
Bertone, the Design Director didn't like the BR.

ODST was fantastic without the BR.
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Agreed, it was good not having to rely on an weapon like that. The game was better for it.

You could say, well than dont pick it up during campaign, but the urge to do so would be quite hard.

Removing it from the game removed that feeling.
 
ElzarTheBam said:
Agreed, it was good not having to rely on an weapon like that. The game was better for it.

You could say, well than dont pick it up during campaign, but the urge to do so would be quite hard.

Removing it from the game removed that feeling.
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Started replaying ODST last night. Wonderful wonderful game.

You have to scavange around for good weapons or good weapon combos.
With the BR in there, the game wouldn't play like that.
 
Zeouterlimits said:
Wow.
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Wow what? I understand that people want to think rainbows and lollypops when it comes to their favorite devs, this community is no exception, but if you think a lot devs don't get enjoyment out of fucking with their fans/gamers you're mistaken.

I've interacted personally with enough devs to know it's true.
 
Alienshogun said:
Wow what? I understand that people want to think rainbows and lollypops when it comes to their favorite devs, this community is no exception, but if you think a lot devs don't get enjoyment out of fucking with their fans/gamers you're mistaken.

I've interacted personally with enough devs to know it's true.
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I've interacted with plenty of developers to know it's not true and a blatant generalisation too.

But whatever Shogun, think what you want.
 
Zeouterlimits said:
I've interacted with plenty of developers to know it's not true and a blatant generalisation too.

But whatever Shogun, think what you want.
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Funny thing about your post is that you're generalizing the "other" way. You're so entrenched in thinking that they are "here for you" you don't want to believe they might derive enjoyment out of lying and fucking with you. Many of them do! I'd wager that Bungie/343 are no different. I would not be surprised in the least if there are some/many there who make jokes about fucking with fans/lies they will tell from time to time. Especially as the game begins to be in the media.
 
Alienshogun said:
Wow what? I understand that people want to think rainbows and lollypops when it comes to their favorite devs, this community is no exception, but if you think a lot devs don't get enjoyment out of fucking with their fans/gamers you're mistaken.

I've interacted personally with enough devs to know it's true.
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Can you really say it's a 'lie'? Producing games is a fickle and uncertain industry, what works now may not work later, features are not set in stone, sometimes shipped features don't even work properly.

Making a guarantee in the video game buisness is hard, and certainly I would not call it a 'lie', when something announced in the game ends up not bieng there.

Certainly, stuff like that can and does happen, but most of time it can't be intentional.
 
Well, correct me if I'm wrong, but there's no online co-op campaign and probably no split screen, right?
It may well be that the gfx won't be this beautiful (or the levels as big as the ones you play in during campaign) in spartan ops.
 
i nerini del buio said:
Well, correct me if I'm wrong, but there's no online co-op campaign and probably no split screen, right?
It may well be that the gfx won't be this beautiful (or the levels as big as the ones you play in during campaign) in spartan ops.
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There is 4 player co-op and splitscreen has been confirmed to in there too.

4 player co-op was confirmed at Halofest and splitscreen on Sparkast #12.
 
Demoncarnotaur said:
Update 3:

I believe this warrants a new thread, source is from "How Is Your Day" on the Halo Waypoint forums (not linking due to scans):

No More Weapon Camping

-One of the skills that separated veteran players from inexperienced players was the ability to time power weapons' spawns. In Halo 4, this will be near impossible. Weapons drop down in drop pods at random locations around the map. Quoted from the article, "This gives the matches other focal points, and it also helps alleviate the advantage longtime players always used to have over newer recruits; the best weapons are not always going to be found at the same spawn locations." Unless there is a distinguishable skill gap between players, I most definitely do not like this idea.
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Fixed, just because I hate bad grammar. This is an interesting point, and Halo 4 seems to be a very promising game; however, I hope we will not be:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0
 
Alienshogun said:
Funny thing about your post is that you're generalizing the "other" way. You're so entrenched in thinking that they are "here for you" you don't want to believe they might derive enjoyment out of lying and fucking with you. Many of them do! I'd wager that Bungie/343 are no different. I would not be surprised in the least if there are some/many there who make jokes about fucking with fans/lies they will tell from time to time. Especially as the game begins to be in the media.
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I'm not generalising because I'm not saying no one does it, just that I know plenty who don't.
 
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