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First infos on RE4 PS2 port quality

BigBoss said:
As a multiconsole owner myself I will be picking up the Xbox version and anybody who doesn't would be a fool or they own a PC that can handle the game. I was merely responding to the poster who was blatantly wrong about the PS2 version looking like ass and coming out at a later date.

Well, golly gee, forgive me for not being a release date whore. Its coming out the same time as the Xbox version and still won't look as good. Anything less than the platform it was built on in my mind is definately settling for less (or ass).

I'm not wrong about the PS2 version, it won't look as good, period. Hell, you admitted that yourself by saying anyone who wouldn't get the Xbox or PC version was a fool. So what are we arguing about again?
 
Foobar said:
Well, golly gee, forgive me for not being a release date whore. Its coming out the same time as the Xbox version and still won't look as good. Anything less than the platform it was built on in my mind is definately settling for less (or ass).

I'm not wrong about the PS2 version, it won't look as good, period. Hell, you admitted that yourself by saying anyone who wouldn't get the Xbox or PC version was a fool. So what are we arguing about again?

You said the PS2 version would look like ass, it doesn't. You said it would be released later, it comes out the same day. That was my argument. :)
 
Foobar said:
Enjoy your wait for SC3: Chaos Theory on PS2 as well :lol Its going to look like ass.

The movies of PS2 rev were posted at the B3D, and the general consensus among the XBox fans was that it looked bloody good.
 
Its coming to PS2, but its not going to look as good as it did on GameCube because RE4 was built from the ground-up for GameCube. When RE4 hits PS2 later this year, everyone who would have wanted to play it will already have played it and it won't sell as much as a result.

Dude, RE4, yes not the version that is devil may cry, but the GC game, started out as a ps2 project, so it was NOT built from the ground up on GC. Mikami even said so in an interview when Resident Evil Remake was first announced. I'm sure they rewrote alot of the engine, but the base engine is still ps2. I think itll run fairly smoothly on PS2.
 
MAZYORA said:
Dude, RE4, yes not the version that is devil may cry, but the GC game, started out as a ps2 project, so it was NOT built from the ground up on GC. Mikami even said so in an interview when Resident Evil Remake was first announced. I'm sure they rewrote alot of the engine, but the base engine is still ps2. I think itll run fairly smoothly on PS2.


Link? I always thought he was referring to DMC.
 
MAZYORA said:
Dude, RE4, yes not the version that is devil may cry, but the GC game, started out as a ps2 project, so it was NOT built from the ground up on GC. Mikami even said so in an interview when Resident Evil Remake was first announced. I'm sure they rewrote alot of the engine, but the base engine is still ps2. I think itll run fairly smoothly on PS2.
LOL WHAT NO.
 
Mr Gump said:
LOL WHAT NO.

Yup. Man, thats an old interview. Its gonna be a tough find, but ill research and see if i can pull up the interview again. But yeah, not DMC, but the current RE4 switched development from PS2 to GC.
 
Mr. Gump, totally off topic, but do you know where i could get the whole video of Vince doing the swagger dance? I checked Kazaa already. It is the funniest thing ever! I used to have it on tape, but F'N taped over it.
 
Squeak said:
Unless they choose to do per vertex controlled inclination dependent mipmapping (at least on some of the geometry).
When hell freezes over maybe - we're talking about a Japanese developer here, even their XBox games usually have large amounts of texture aliasing.
 
MAZYORA said:
Dude, RE4, yes not the version that is devil may cry, but the GC game, started out as a ps2 project, so it was NOT built from the ground up on GC. Mikami even said so in an interview when Resident Evil Remake was first announced. I'm sure they rewrote alot of the engine, but the base engine is still ps2. I think itll run fairly smoothly on PS2.

Your high. Have you seen the making of DVD? THIS version RE4 was totally built from the ground up on Gamecube in fact they basically said Remake and REZero were practice so they could perfect the engine for part 4.
 
Shaheed79 said:
Your high. Have you seen the making of DVD? THIS version RE4 was totally built from the ground up on Gamecube in fact they basically said Remake and REZero were practice so they could perfect the engine for part 4.

OK, Mikami is high then too, because he's the one who said it, not me. I dont deny that they rewrote most of the engine, maybe even all of it, but after DMC, RE4 started on PS2 then was switched to GC. The game has PS2 roots, like it tor not.
 
MAZYORA said:
OK, Mikami is high then too, because he's the one who said it, not me. I dont deny that they rewrote most of the engine, maybe even all of it, but after DMC, RE4 started on PS2 then was switched to GC. The game has PS2 roots, like it tor not.

Of course the game has PS2 roots no one denys that. But no way in hell is the engine in this final game designed for anything but the Gamecube. Hence the whole point of the topic.
 
Shaheed79 said:
Of course the game has PS2 roots no one denys that. But no way in hell is the engine in this final game designed for anything but the Gamecube. Hence the whole point of the topic.

Dude, do you work at Capcom? NO! You don't know what engine they used and how much of it was broght over from ps2. Neither do I. Alls i know is Mikami said the game started out on PS2 and was switched to GC. I don't think Capcom completly threw everything away when porting it over to GC.
 
Shaheed79 said:
Of course the game has PS2 roots no one denys that. But no way in hell is the engine in this final game designed for anything but the Gamecube. Hence the whole point of the topic.

Monk said:
We are still waiting for that link. lol

He said that the orignal RE4 was turned into DMC. And RE4 was redone like 4-5 times from scratch. IIRC. We had a thread about how many times RE4 was redone here.

Got thread:
http://forums.gaming-age.com/showthread.php?t=32079&page=1&highlight=re4

Exactly.

And sorry i dont have the complete video of vince's dance. Your best bet would be finding a torrent from that raw, although knowing which raw exactly would be tough..
 
MAZYORA said:
Dude, do you work at Capcom? NO! You don't know what engine they used and how much of it was broght over from ps2. Neither do I. Alls i know is Mikami said the game started out on PS2 and was switched to GC. I don't think Capcom completly threw everything away when porting it over to GC.

Baahhh!

I have proof that RE4 engine originated on the Gamecube because in the latests interviews Edge asks Kobayashi would they like to use the RE4 engine for one more sequel and he replies that P.N03 was a very early build of the RE4 engine of the game we have. The PS2 RE4 engine is the DMC engine and it is unrelated to RE4 on Cube.
 
DMC was supposed to be RE4 but because of all the action elements they turned it into its own series.

RE4 was built from the ground up on Gamecube hardware. They had multiple engines and versions of it and chose the one that we have as the game. The game is optimized for GCN and the PS2 version will be inferior.
 
Fucking nerds.

Who God damn cares? If you're a GameCube owner who likes the game, you probably already have it and get to play it before people who only own a PS2.

If you're on the PS2 side, "your system" has already beat the GameCube, and you'll get the game, which is great.

Big fat rolleyes for this thread.
 
Mike Works said:
Fucking nerds.

Who God damn cares? If you're a GameCube owner who likes the game, you probably already have it and get to play it before people who only own a PS2.

If you're on the PS2 side, "your system" has already beat the GameCube, and you'll get the game, which is great.

Big fat rolleyes for this thread.

I don't think you quite understand the importance of all of this. It's something beyond you or me.
 
i will buy resident evil on ps2. i dont have a gamecube and i dont want one. one year waiting - who cares, there are enough other great games to play in the meantime.

nintendo fanboys should already stop crying. thats really annoying and poor.
 
>>> Anything less than the platform it was built on in my mind is definately settling for less (or ass).<<<<

That's so ridiculous I don't know where to start. Oh, wait... I do. So Conker's Bad Fur Day on Xbox is settling for less, since the game was built with N64 in mind? REmake can't compare RE?
PS2 -> Xbox ports were more subtle examples. Some looked the same. Most were improved to varying degrees. The only ones I can think of that looked worse in any way were from Konami, and it seemed like they tried to make them worse. With MGS2, they RE-COMPRESSED the PS2 textures instead of making new Xbox textures from the source art, for Christ's sake.
 
Anyone who will play RE 4 has already picked it up and played it on the GC.

The PS2 version is going to tank so who cares what it looks like.

Anyone who is waiting for the PS2 version is a fool. It's like waiting for Halo2 on the Mac or something...
 
teruterubozu said:
Anyone who will play RE 4 has already picked it up and played it on the GC.

gosh.. that makes the sales of the game in japan look even worse.

I disagree with you. I think a lot of people are waiting for the ps2 version.
 
bitwise said:
gosh.. that makes the sales of the game in japan look even worse.

I disagree with you. I think a lot of people are waiting for the ps2 version.


Ported releases never do well when they come out months and months after the original. (except for maybe GTA pack for Xbox - but that was a good deal)
 
teruterubozu said:
Ported releases never do well when they come out months and months after the original. (except for maybe GTA pack for Xbox - but that was a good deal)
Explain Resident Evil Code Veronica X for the PS2.
 
The PS2 version is going to tank so who cares what it looks like.

I think you might end up being wrong...

Take a look at the Code Veronica X sales for PS2. First of all, when it was originally released for Dreamcast, there was no other version promised (unlike RE4, where we knew about the PS2 version prior to the GC version even showing up at retail). Secondly, the PS2 port didn't show up for nearly two years after the original release. Even more importantly, RECV was released when the DC was still hot...while RE4 has shown up in the dark years of the Cube. That didn't stop it from outselling the DC version, though, did it?

Do you really think that everyone who wants to play RE4 has already done so? No way. The PS2 port will most likely be very successful...
 
Alright, alright - it's so hard to say anything off the cuff here. Hahaha!

I was thinking Sonic Adventure 2 did pretyy well on the GC - probably better than the Dreamcast version.

Hey, I admit I'm wrong - more than what many people can say here...(that's how these threads go on into infinity!)
 
People waiting for the PS2 version without playing this one are dumb. How's that? And given the director's comments, this one is like an unwanted child anyway.
 
bitwise said:
that would make sense if everyone owned a GC, but alas..



For the purposes of this board, everyone does. Otherwise, they're dumb. $150 for a system and game of this caliber is SO worth it. (especially with the other Cube games out)

I concur with the idea that this PS2 port will sell well below expectations, and won't look as good as the Gamecube one. Just watch. The day it releases, there will be multiple threads dedicated to specific issues within the game.
 
bitwise said:
that would make sense if everyone owned a GC, but alas..


Waiting around for a U.S. announcement for the PS2 version could very well be bordering on "dumb".

Just play it already - it's a great game!
 
Speevy said:
For the purposes of this board, everyone does. Otherwise, they're dumb. $150 for a system and game of this caliber is SO worth it. (especially with the other Cube games out)
Out of curiousity do you own a PS2? Otherwise, $150(IIRC, a Gamecube is $100 and not $150) for a PS2 system with so many games that are great is SO worth it as well. If not, these people are dumb as well.
 
I don't own a PS2 because I possess neither the time nor the money for it. I can afford the system, but I would never be able to play all those games. Xbox/GCN is a fine combo, thanks.

But if I did own the PS2 and had the means, I would buy a Gamecube and RE4 in a heartbeat.
 
You know, one can fill in the blanks with the whatever one likes as well.

Generic Statement said:
I don't own a ___ because I possess neither the time nor the money for it. I can afford the system, but I would never be able to play all those games. ___/___ is a fine combo, thanks.

But if I did own the ___ and had the means, I would buy a ___ and ___ in a heartbeat.

An opinion is just an opinion, no more, no less.

Peace.
 
Speevy said:
People waiting for the PS2 version without playing this one are dumb. How's that? And given the director's comments, this one is like an unwanted child anyway.

Its kind of sad really, gamers just dont care how the makers of these games wanted them to be played. This case is a blatant abuse of a director's wishes where capcom put it on the ps2 despite what the director wanted. No wonder we are getting so many half assed games as of late, why should directors even bother making a real effort for their vision anymore?
 
Sooo, 5 pages filled with replies about something we don't have real proof of what was exactly said in the magazine. Developer quotes or "educated" guess?

Whoa.
 
I'm sure it will look very comparable to GC version. Don't know - it's not like GC and PS2 are a generation different. Will have some problems/bad textures, perhaps - but it will look pretty comparable IMHO.

lachesis
 
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