First iPhone 6/6 Plus Reviews

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Goodlife said:
Seriously, now you're just making things up.
I've made no argument, other than point out your statement that android HAS TO HAVE (in capitals.....) 2-3GB to operate is bollocks.
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you pointed out Android One requirements. You've still never proven that Android KitKat running TouchWiz or comparable launcher (i.e. a modern top end android phone) can run on anything under 2GB. Game on. Your strawman fight is at its end but you can keep dancing if you want to try.

I haven't made shit up, you just keep dancing around the fact and point out non-sequitors and then say "Ha!"

To spell it out for you:
Android One device != top tier android phone
You gave specs for Android One devices. Show me a top tier android phone that can run on 1GB. Until then it is a very safe and not at all unreasonable assumption that they have more than 1GB because it would be a poor user experience with 1GB or less. The devices you keep insisting have 1GB requirements are not top tier and thus not comparable to either top tier android phones OR iphones.

is that clear enough for you?
 
I use a Moto G with just 1gb of system memory. Constantly tinkering with minfree values to get the most out of it. From a smartphone user standpoint, sigh of relief that a market leader like Apple is maintaining and driving in their own devices. Then again, I use cheap, barrel bottom, almost throwaway hardware as my daily driver.

But.

The point of concern is that Apple has stagnated three product cycles with 1gb of memory. Apple hasn't nudged past 1gb of RAM since the introduction of the 3rd generation iPad in early 2012. Some say that extra memory takes a piece out of the battery. Nah ... Capacity and process technology has offset that. I think what saved the iPhone 4 and it's logitivity was that leap from 256mb -> 512mb.

The competition can cheaply match 1gb aand double or triple it. 2gb has been common iin high end Android devices for two years now.

Apple has ulterior motivation for keeping 1gb whether it be for developers or maintaining an ethic on efficiency with their software platform. Kind of like 16gb of storage still existing in their product lineup, it's more about the upsell or next iteration. There's no reason why Apple couldn't have doubled capacity even last year.
 
borghe said:
you pointed out Android One requirements. You've still never proven that Android KitKat running TouchWiz or comparable launcher (i.e. a modern top end android phone) can run on anything under 2GB. Game on. Your strawman fight is at its end but you can keep dancing if you want to try.

I haven't made shit up, you just keep dancing around the fact and point out non-sequitors and then say "Ha!"

To spell it out for you:
Android One device != top tier android phone
You gave specs for Android One devices. Show me a top tier android phone that can run on 1GB. Until then it is a very safe and not at all unreasonable assumption that they have more than 1GB because it would be a poor user experience with 1GB or less. The devices you keep insisting have 1GB requirements are not top tier and thus not comparable to either top tier android phones OR iphones.

is that clear enough for you?
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If you suddenly want to move the goalposts, you go for it, I'm sure it makes you feel better.
 
borghe said:
you pointed out Android One requirements. You've still never proven that Android KitKat running TouchWiz or comparable launcher (i.e. a modern top end android phone) can run on anything under 2GB. Game on. Your strawman fight is at its end but you can keep dancing if you want to try.

I haven't made shit up, you just keep dancing around the fact and point out non-sequitors and then say "Ha!"

To spell it out for you:
Android One device != top tier android phone
You gave specs for Android One devices. Show me a top tier android phone that can run on 1GB. Until then it is a very safe and not at all unreasonable assumption that they have more than 1GB because it would be a poor user experience with 1GB or less. The devices you keep insisting have 1GB requirements are not top tier and thus not comparable to either top tier android phones OR iphones.

is that clear enough for you?
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Those are horseshit requirements because no top tier Android phone has anything less than 2GB.

If you want a use case, go to XDA and browse around. I had Android 4.3 running on my HTC Sensation that only had 756MB. Here's Android 4.4.4 running on it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2530073
 
borghe said:
you pointed out Android One requirements. You've still never proven that Android KitKat running TouchWiz or comparable launcher (i.e. a modern top end android phone) can run on anything under 2GB. Game on. Your strawman fight is at its end but you can keep dancing if you want to try.

I haven't made shit up, you just keep dancing around the fact and point out non-sequitors and then say "Ha!"

To spell it out for you:
Android One device != top tier android phone
You gave specs for Android One devices. Show me a top tier android phone that can run on 1GB. Until then it is a very safe and not at all unreasonable assumption that they have more than 1GB because it would be a poor user experience with 1GB or less. The devices you keep insisting have 1GB requirements are not top tier and thus not comparable to either top tier android phones OR iphones.

is that clear enough for you?
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I'm pretty sure that if the Nexus 5 had 1 GB of RAM, it would still run great (just would not be able to multitask). The Moto G runs Android Kit Kat smoothly with only a Snapdragon 400 processor and 1 GB of ram.

I have no fucking idea at what you're trying to get at here. That all android skins are poorly optimized and therefore that means that iOS is superior to Kit Kat? What are you trying to say?
 
jedivulcan said:
Apple has ulterior motivation for keeping 1gb whether it be for developers or maintaining an ethic on efficiency with their software platform. Kind of like 16gb of storage still existing in their product lineup, it's more about the upsell or next iteration. There's no reason why Apple couldn't have doubled capacity even last year.
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ulterior motive is cost. I mean seriously. As noble as you want to make it sounds that they are trying to "keep development efficient"... no.. It's because the entirety of the UI and OS (outside of tabbed browsing) can run perfectly fine and fluid inside of 1GB. When that isn't true, like currently for top tier android (Moto X, S5, G3, Note 4, etc) they will bump it up likewise. Until then we are just forced to deal with it, so they can hit their margins (same with storage).

Hopefully they move from Cyclone next year, and make enough QOL upgrades to iOS that it forces them to move to 2GB. But that's about the best we can hope for right now.

reKon said:
I'm pretty sure that if the Nexus 5 had 1 GB of RAM, it would still run great (just would not be able to multitask). The Moto G runs Android Kit Kat smoothly with only a Snapdragon 400 processor and 1 GB of ram.

I have no fucking idea at what you're trying to get at here. That all android skins are poorly optimized and therefore that means that iOS is superior to Kit Kat? What are you trying to say?
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Dude... you just mentioned one phone that DOES have 2GB... and another phone that is not top tier (Moto X is their flagship.. G is developing market). I mean come on.....

http://browser.primatelabs.com/android-benchmarks
 
RubxQub said:
That seems perfectly reasonable to me.

I'm talking about folks whipping out Android market distribution charts and flaming reviewers for bias. Seems petty and unconstructive.
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The only reviewer people seem to be flaming is the Verge one. This is a man who the other week said "It's a android tablet, so whatever".
 
borghe said:
ulterior motive is cost. I mean seriously. As noble as you want to make it sounds that they are trying to "keep development efficient"... no.. It's because the entirety of the UI and OS (outside of tabbed browsing) can run perfectly fine and fluid inside of 1GB. When that isn't true, like currently for top tier android (Moto X, S5, G3, Note 4, etc) they will bump it up likewise. Until then we are just forced to deal with it, so they can hit their margins (same with storage).

Hopefully they move from Cyclone next year, and make enough QOL upgrades to iOS that it forces them to move to 2GB. But that's about the best we can hope for right now.



Dude... you just mentioned one phone that DOES have 2GB... and another phone that is not top tier (Moto X is their flagship.. G is developing market). I mean come on.....

http://browser.primatelabs.com/android-benchmarks
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I said IF the Nexus 5 only had 1 GB it would still Android fine, but it has 2GB... just like every flagship android device for the most part.
I honestly have no idea what you're arguing right now, lol...

If you're suggesting that Android Kit Kat can't run flagship devices less than 2GB, then I'd say it depends on if you're talking a stock version of android or skinned version of android. In both cases you're probably wrong though. The only flagship I could see issues running on only 1GB is TouchWiz because it's very bloated. I don't actually know the ram usage with that skin though.
 
borghe said:
ulterior motive is cost. I mean seriously. As noble as you want to make it sounds that they are trying to "keep development efficient"... no.. It's because the entirety of the UI and OS (outside of tabbed browsing) can run perfectly fine and fluid inside of 1GB. When that isn't true, like currently for top tier android (Moto X, S5, G3, Note 4, etc) they will bump it up likewise. Until then we are just forced to deal with it, so they can hit their margins (same with storage).

Hopefully they move from Cyclone next year, and make enough QOL upgrades to iOS that it forces them to move to 2GB. But that's about the best we can hope for right now.



Dude... you just mentioned one phone that DOES have 2GB... and another phone that is not top tier (Moto X is their flagship.. G is developing market). I mean come on.....

http://browser.primatelabs.com/android-benchmarks
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I want to get this straight, your argument is top teir android phones can't run at 1gb of RAM because there aren't any that exist?
 
reKon said:
If you're suggesting that Android Kit Kat can't run flagship devices less than 2GB, then I'd say it depends on if you're talking a stock version of android or skinned version of android. In both cases you're probably wrong though.
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skinned of course, because that's what the top tier models are going to run by default. and what 95%+ of users are going to run for the life of their phone. and the user experience that the manufacturer is selling to that 95%.

As for the probably part... I'd like to see the receipts.. I mean we are both talking about probably, I'll grant you that.. but I cannot believe that as these flagship phones ship from the manufacturers, that there would not be a degraded experience under 2GB. Even if that experience is multi-tasking (a bullet point feature), slight lag, etc. It shouldn't be too hard to verify... Fire up a top tier non-stripped phone, a few standard apps and look at memory usage..

Spork4000 said:
I want to get this straight, your argument is top teir android phones can't run at 1gb of RAM because there aren't any that exist?
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my argument came down to that android manufacturers moved to >1GB on top tier models because they needed to for the overall OS experience to be satisfactory for the phones as they've chosen to ship them. In no way do I feel I'm even being critical or even unreasonable by suggesting that, which seems pretty common sense. I mean they aren't going to throw 1-2GB in there because they are feeling generous. I don't even know what that other dude is arguing. rekon I think is just getting that android can definitely run on 1GB (which I never disagreed with), and that (I think) the extra memory is largely affected by the bloat and skins (which I never disagreed with)..

I think (I don't even fucking remember with all of the running around the topic with that other dude) that this all started from "android has been doing 2GB or more for years now" and me basically saying "yeah, so that they could ship the UX they wanted to as skinned on their top tier phones" and that other dude jumping in saying "nu uh android can run on 1GB easily" or some silly shit like that ignoring the fact that I was in fact talking about Moto X, S5, Nexus 5, G3, etc.. phones that are all marketed, sold and/or skinned in a way that they absolutely need the 2GB (as shipped) to perform/behave as those companies are advertising them.

and simply that once iOS hits that point where it's not able to perform, it likely won't be until then that Apple adds more memory. Which will hopefully be sooner than later.
 
Hey guys, iOS8 got released 30-40 minutes ago.

Sorry for interrupting!
 
MThanded said:
All the cool kids installed the GM last week.
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True...I'm slipping hard these days. I can't even hit level 20 in Destiny in a reasonable amount of time anymore.

Getting old and having a family folks. It fucks with your free time!
 
borghe said:
skinned of course, because that's what the top tier models are going to run by default. and what 95%+ of users are going to run for the life of their phone. and the user experience that the manufacturer is selling to that 95%.

As for the probably part... I'd like to see the receipts.. I mean we are both talking about probably, I'll grant you that.. but I cannot believe that as these flagship phones ship from the manufacturers, that there would not be a degraded experience under 2GB. Even if that experience is multi-tasking (a bullet point feature), slight lag, etc. It shouldn't be too hard to verify... Fire up a top tier non-stripped phone, a few standard apps and look at memory usage..


my argument came down to that android manufacturers moved to >1GB on top tier models because they needed to for the overall OS experience to be satisfactory for the phones as they've chosen to ship them. In no way do I feel I'm even being critical or even unreasonable by suggesting that, which seems pretty common sense. I mean they aren't going to throw 1-2GB in there because they are feeling generous. I don't even know what that other dude is arguing. rekon I think is just getting that android can definitely run on 1GB (which I never disagreed with), and that (I think) the extra memory is largely affected by the bloat and skins (which I never disagreed with)..

I think (I don't even fucking remember with all of the running around the topic with that other dude) that this all started from "android has been doing 2GB or more for years now" and me basically saying "yeah, so that they could ship the UX they wanted to as skinned on their top tier phones" and that other dude jumping in saying "nu uh android can run on 1GB easily" or some silly shit like that ignoring the fact that I was in fact talking about Moto X, S5, Nexus 5, G3, etc.. phones that are all marketed, sold and/or skinned in a way that they absolutely need the 2GB (as shipped) to perform/behave as those companies are advertising them.
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Oh, yeah you're right. To an extent. The phones ship with the amount of ram needed to run the intended processes, but at times have larger amounts just for the sake of multitasking and extra features. Could most android phones run with less ram? Oh yeah, would they have to cut features? That really depends on the phone. Also will the experience be significantly worse? Oh hell yeah.
 
Spork4000 said:
Oh, yeah you're right. To an extent. The phones ship with the amount of ram needed to run the intended processes, but at times have larger amounts just for the sake of multitasking and extra features. Could most android phones run with less ram? Oh yeah, would they have to cut features? That really depends on the phone. Also will the experience be significantly worse? Oh hell yeah.
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I swear to fucking god this post is all I've been trying to say... I think rekon was thinking I was going somewhere else or thinking I meant something else... that other dude I don't even know... just some dick trying to start shit.

yes, exactly. I'd think this is just common sense... but whatever.
 
borghe said:
skinned of course, because that's what the top tier models are going to run by default. and what 95%+ of users are going to run for the life of their phone. and the user experience that the manufacturer is selling to that 95%.

As for the probably part... I'd like to see the receipts.. I mean we are both talking about probably, I'll grant you that.. but I cannot believe that as these flagship phones ship from the manufacturers, that there would not be a degraded experience under 2GB. Even if that experience is multi-tasking (a bullet point feature), slight lag, etc. It shouldn't be too hard to verify... Fire up a top tier non-stripped phone, a few standard apps and look at memory usage..


my argument came down to that android manufacturers moved to >1GB on top tier models because they needed to for the overall OS experience to be satisfactory for the phones as they've chosen to ship them. In no way do I feel I'm even being critical or even unreasonable by suggesting that, which seems pretty common sense. I mean they aren't going to throw 1-2GB in there because they are feeling generous. I don't even know what that other dude is arguing. rekon I think is just getting that android can definitely run on 1GB (which I never disagreed with), and that (I think) the extra memory is largely affected by the bloat and skins (which I never disagreed with)..

I think (I don't even fucking remember with all of the running around the topic with that other dude) that this all started from "android has been doing 2GB or more for years now" and me basically saying "yeah, so that they could ship the UX they wanted to as skinned on their top tier phones" and that other dude jumping in saying "nu uh android can run on 1GB easily" or some silly shit like that ignoring the fact that I was in fact talking about Moto X, S5, Nexus 5, G3, etc.. phones that are all marketed, sold and/or skinned in a way that they absolutely need the 2GB (as shipped) to perform/behave as those companies are advertising them.
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So in conclusion Android skins/bloat can suck in some ways.

I don't think that Sense 6 and the Sony UI skins are really that heavy though. Also, I'm pretty sure RAM usage is something that we can look up and actually verify from XDA. Also, one thing to keep in mind is that the POS mini versions of the Galaxy S5 and HTC One can give you insight to what you're trying to argue here. The fact that the Galaxy S5 Mini requires 1.5 GB of ram and the HTC One Mini 2 requires 1 GB of ram should tell you a little about what they feel they think is necessary to provide a good user experience. The mini versions still run the same touchwiz and sense software that are in the bigger flagships for the most part. Reviewers said that the mini versions of the phone still offered snappy performance with weaker processors (but they don't have to push as many pixels)...

The 1 GB of ram actual supports my thoughts above on how I don't think Sense 6 is as heavy as TouchWiz.
 
reKon said:
So in conclusion Android skins/bloat can suck in some ways.

I don't think that Sense 6 and the Sony UI skins are really that heavy though. Also, I'm pretty sure RAM usage is something that we can look up and actually verify from XDA. Also, one thing to keep in mind is that the POS mini versions of the Galaxy S5 and HTC One can give you insight to what you're trying to argue here. The fact that the Galaxy S5 Mini requires 1.5 GB of ram and the HTC One Mini 2 requires 1 GB of ram should tell you a little about what they feel they think is necessary to provide a good user experience. The mini versions still run the same touchwiz and sense software that are in the bigger flagships for the most part. Reviewers said that the mini versions of the phone still offered snappy performance with weaker processors (but they don't have to push as many pixels)...

The 1 GB of ram actual supports my thoughts above on how I don't think Sense 6 is as heavy as TouchWiz.
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however fewer pixels doesn't just affect CPU performance, as there is less RAM needed to render the UI as a result.. a consideration for sure.
 
borghe said:
I swear to fucking god this post is all I've been trying to say... I think rekon was thinking I was going somewhere else or thinking I meant something else... that other dude I don't even know... just some dick trying to start shit.

yes, exactly. I'd think this is just common sense... but whatever.
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Yeah, this is pretty much common sense. It's ridiculous to think otherwise.
 
borghe said:
Android users hate iPhone... It's in their DNA or something.
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Ya, because Apple/iOS users never pissed all over Android tablets when the iPad was the current hot thing. Android tablets were constantly being mocked and the people feeling superior with their iPads. It goes both ways.
 
Hey guys, iPhone 6s are starting to ship for European folks it seems!

Sorry again for interrupting!
 
This is the ram usage of my Note 3, take in mind TouchWiz is a hog.

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DarkFlow said:
This is the ram usage of my Note 3, take in mind TouchWiz is a hog.
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that's always been taken into mind.. absolutely and was rekon's point. However, it's what ships on the phone and what the VAST majority of the phones' owners will stick with. Hence the statement "modern top tier android phones essentially had to move to 2GB or more"

out of curiosity, do you have any apps running in the background or is that just the phone cold booted?

Marty Chinn said:
Ya, because Apple/iOS users never pissed all over Android tablets when the iPad was the current hot thing. Android tablets were constantly being mocked and the people feeling superior with their iPads. It goes both ways.
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tbh I couldn't say as I never went into an android tablet thread to know.. if so, that sucks.
 
Zefah said:
Minimum requirements vs recommended requirements.

Yes, Android will run on 1GB, but it won't be pretty in most cases.
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My current back up phone, the LG Optimus F6 runs jellybean 4.1.2 faily smoothly on LGs skin. Because it's jellybean on LGs skin though, there are of course times where it stutters when there's a lot going on and there are delays when holding down on the home button for multiasking (expected, but it's still brilliant for a $100 off-contact 4.5 inch compact 4G LTE phone that just works).

With a browser and other apps open, my ram usage shows it at around 760 MB I think? EDIT: I currently have 708 MB usage with 98 MB left, whew lol

Also, the Moto G has 1 GB and a lot people love that phones perform especially...

The mini version of the HTC One runs on 1 GB ram and the performance is good too even though it's not stock Android. (Here's a video running on Sense 6.1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kuX9BFwaKw)

The snapdragon 400 + 1 GB combination seems very common these days for mid range devices and they all seem to run the latest version of Android very well...
 
Ctrl + F "iPhone" on 100 PPP: 102 hits
Ctrl + F "Android" on 100 PPP: 162 hits.

Weird.
 
borghe said:
that's always been taken into mind.. absolutely and was rekon's point. However, it's what ships on the phone and what the VAST majority of the phones' owners will stick with. Hence the statement "modern top tier android phones essentially had to move to 2GB or more"

out of curiosity, do you have any apps running in the background or is that just the phone cold booted?


tbh I couldn't say as I never went into an android tablet thread to know.. if so, that sucks.
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I think Facebook is running, and hangouts but for the most part nothing is running.
 
That's why iphones don't need task killers, most applications aren't running in the background. Also, why I could see RAM isn't as important for an iPhone as it is essential for an Android.

The fact iphones dont need a task killer is one of the many reasons I prefer iOS to the Android OS.
 
BSsBrolly said:
That's why iphones don't need task killers, most applications aren't running in the background. Also, why I could see RAM isn't as important for an iPhone as it is essential for an Android.

The fact iphones dont need a task killer is one of the many reasons I prefer iOS to the Android OS.
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This isn't 2010 anymore. Kit Kat doesn't operate on task killers anymore. You can refer to my post above, but Android has improved to the point where it runs great on phones with 1 GB of ram.

You guys gotta keep in mind that it just wasn't ram that these manufacturers bumped up to try to compete with each other. Also, screen size/quality and battery life. Also this was being done while stock android has became more efficient (http://www.engadget.com/2013/10/31/android-4-4-kitkat-launch/)
 
reKon said:
My current back up phone, the LG Optimus F6 runs jellybean 4.1.2 faily smoothly on LGs skin. Because it's jellybean on LGs skin though, there are of course times where it stutters when there's a lot going on and there are delays when holding down on the home button for multiasking (expected, but it's still brilliant for a $100 off-contact 4.5 inch compact 4G LTE phone that just works).

With a browser and other apps open, my ram usage shows it at around 760 MB I think? EDIT: I currently have 708 MB usage with 98 MB left, whew lol

Also, the Moto G has 1 GB and a lot people love that phones perform especially...

The mini version of the HTC One runs on 1 GB ram and the performance is good too even though it's not stock Android. (Here's a video running on Sense 6.1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kuX9BFwaKw)

The snapdragon 400 + 1 GB combination seems very common these days for mid range devices and they all seem to run the latest version of Android very well...
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I think I have different standards than a lot of people when it comes to what constitutes "running well."

Not to sound elitist or anything, but any kind of sluggishness or hitching is extremely annoying to me. I find that a lot of people don't care about it at all, though, and claim their phones run "just fine."
 
Zefah said:
I think I have different standards than a lot of people when it comes to what constitutes "running well."

Not to sound elitist or anything, but any kind of sluggishness or hitching is extremely annoying to me. I find that a lot of people don't care about it at all, though, and claim their phones run "just fine."
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So you're getting the 6 and not the 6+ right?
 
By the way, just thought I'd share a bit of insight.

The RAM usage on Android phones is not solely dependent on what apps you have running in the background. A large portion of your RAM is taken up as resources to render the screen (notice in that screenshot about 300MB of RAM is missing).

The reason Android manufacturers keep shipping phones with more and more RAM is because the screen resolutions they are boasting require that much RAM. Android GPUs do not have dedicated VRAM, they rely on the RAM available for the system. As an example - the Nexus 10 reserves almost 500MB of RAM for its display. If you take any flavor of Android and throw it on a less resource-intensive screen, it will run better and have more RAM available. That's why it is so easy for ROM developers to port newer OS's to older phones without much of an issue. Multi-tasking is never really a RAM issue on Android because when RAM is lacking, it uses disc caching and saved instance states to simulate multi-tasking.

To take this back to an iPhone discussion, this is part of the reason (I believe) that Apple is so hesitant to play the resolution game. High resolutions take up a lot of RAM. Comparing iOS RAM to Android RAM is only going to serve to start needless wars. Just like their processors (don't get me started on cross-platform benchmarks...), RAM cannot be compared across two separate Android devices, let alone two separate OS's, especially when you take into account that Android developers have to code for 90 billion different phones, while iOS developers only have to code for one or two. So the 1GB or so of RAM in your iPhone is not necessarily a bad thing.
 
Toki767 said:
So you're getting the 6 and not the 6+ right?
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I'm torn at the moment. I really hope some detailed performance reviews/videos of the phones in action are put out before tomorrow night.

I really want the larger size of the 6 Plus, but the decreased performance in certain tests has me worried. I did see a test where it actually beat the 6 in GPU performance, though. Not sure what to think!
 
Zefah said:
I'm torn at the moment. I really hope some detailed performance reviews/videos of the phones in action are put out before tomorrow night.

I really want the larger size of the 6 Plus, but the decreased performance in certain tests has me worried. I did see a test where it actually beat the 6 in GPU performance, though. Not sure what to think!
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If you care about sluggishness you better get the iPhone 6 and not the 6+. Its not always there but apparently some situations it's really noticeable.
 
Even though I'm getting the 6 on Friday it was hard to decide between it and the 6+ in such a short time as I wanted a phone on launch day.

I own an iPad 4 and was thinking about getting the Mini in the future. If I chose the 6+ I wouldnt need a Mini but I wasn't convinced on carrying a bigger phone.

Hope I don't regret my decision.
 
Distresssss said:
If you care about sluggishness you better get the iPhone 6 and not the 6+. Its not always there but apparently some situations it's really noticeable.
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That's what I'm kind of waiting to get the final word on.

The bigger screen is a huge draw to me, so I really want to see some examples of how bad the sluggishness/hitching is on the Plus compared to the 6.
 
Zefah said:
That's what I'm kind of waiting to get the final word on.

The bigger screen is a huge draw to me, so I really want to see some examples of how bad the sluggishness/hitching is on the Plus compared to the 6.
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If it's any consolation it's something I'd fully expect to get patched.
 
Zefah said:
I think I have different standards than a lot of people when it comes to what constitutes "running well."

Not to sound elitist or anything, but any kind of sluggishness or hitching is extremely annoying to me. I find that a lot of people don't care about it at all, though, and claim their phones run "just fine."
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Well I was honest with you about my Optimus F6. As for the other phones like Moto G, a majority of reviewers say that they has a smooth experience, there was no lag, and there were slight hiccups - but only for certain apps that they ran.

If you look at the video a posted above, I think that perfectly constitutes running well.
 
Distresssss said:
If it's any consolation it's something I'd fully expect to get patched.
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I have to believe any perceived sluggishness is OS-related and not CPU/ram related. iPad 4, Air and mini-Retina are all pushing more pixels on slower SoC than 6 Plus and (from reports) run iOS8 just fine.

reKon said:
Well I was honest with you about my Optimus F6. As for the other phones like Moto G, a majority of reviewers say that they has a smooth experience, there was no lag, and there were slight hiccups - but only for certain apps that they ran.

If you look at the video a posted above, I think that perfectly constitutes running well.
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right. My original statement was top tier phones, not mid-range ones. I mean up through iOS7 the iPhone 4s was actually smooth on 512MB of RAM. Likewise with the iPad 2 and original mini on only 512MB. I have no doubt that you can get a great android experience under 2GB.. but, for whatever it's worth better or worse, THAT experience isn't what the top end phones are selling/shipping, hence them cranking up the RAM.
 
YaGaMi said:
Even though I'm getting the 6 on Friday it was hard to decide between it and the 6+ in such a short time as I wanted a phone on launch day.

I own an iPad 4 and was thinking about getting the Mini in the future. If I chose the 6+ I wouldnt need a Mini but I wasn't convinced on carrying a bigger phone.

Hope I don't regret my decision.
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Yes you will, I have a Note 3 and I still use my Nexus 7 for most things when I'm home. It's not really a tablet replacement as much as you think it is.
 
Let's be honest here. The iPhone 6+ is probably not going to be sluggish in anyway because Apple would never allow that to happen.
 
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