EdibleKnife
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1 thing I really remember about 1995 Makoto was most certainly her build and muscle and they've completely missed the mark using ScarJo if that's what they're trying to get across.
First look at ScarJo as the Major in Ghost in the Shell
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1 thing I really remember about 1995 Makoto was most certainly her build and muscle and they've completely missed the mark using ScarJo if that's what they're trying to get across.
BewareTheBatsie
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Seems strange to give a...somewhat accurate hairstyle only to have it be a different character. But as I said, fair enough if they decide to go with an original route with Major only being a title.
It's just my personal feelings on the matter of Hollywood needing to whitewash everything and how some people don't care about that.
Or Attack on Titan. Only Mikasa is Asian in it.
WrenchNinja
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Am I the only one who thinks anime characters who are Asian generally look Asian? If you look at white characters in anime (ex: Dan Eagleman in Guilty Crown, that white guy in Azumanga Daioh) they are clearly drawn differently.
Anyways I'm probably skipping out on this movie unless it has rave reviews. Feel like it'll be hard to live up to the original.
Anyways I'm probably skipping out on this movie unless it has rave reviews. Feel like it'll be hard to live up to the original.
I'd watch that.
Good point. Though, I don't think an american Attack on Titan would have the budget for good Titans. An Attack on TItan movie would really need chunks of money to not look like the porn parody.
My favourite is people arguing that Naruto is an European Aryan.
The film, which is based on the famous Kodansha Comics manga series of the same name, written and illustrated by Masamune Shirow, is produced by Avi Arad (“THE AMAZING SPIDER-MAN 1 & 2,” “IRON MAN”, Ari Arad (“GHOST RIDER: SPIRIT OF VENGEANCE”
Yeah, films of quality right there. This is going to have to convince me ultra fucking hard to get my money.
WrenchNinja
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You're not the only one. Some people see, "oh fair skin, no black hair, no epicanthic fold, must be white".
You've got people who watch stuff like avatar the last airbender who delusionally believe this shit while ignoring all context.
Subpar Spatula
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Look's like the Major to me.
Systolique
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No it's not an art style, again did you watch a tiny tiny tiny bit of any GitS medium?
Ishikawa looks japanese, Togusa looks japanese, Aramaki looks japanese, but Kusanagi sure doesn't.
Her being japanese is like the most faint trait of her personality, it's never emphasized in any way.
Where were you guys when they changed Kusanagi's design every single time? From the movies to the serie to the Arise OVA.
Where were you guys when they changed the voice actor for Kusanagi?
I mean come on now, get real. They casted Takeshi Kitano for Aramaki because the original character looks japanese and the actor fits the role.
They casted Scarlet for Motoko because the original character doesn't look japanese and because the actor fits the role.
That's it, we can move on, talk about cinema.
You probably didn't watch even one quarter of the movies with Scarlet starring in them because if you did you just can't say that objectively, but then again in this thread I don't expect people to have opinions based on something they have experienced personally, rather just rant based on what they saw some clueless internet guy say about it.
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I'm 99% sure she's wearing this Levi's windbreaker.
http://m.ebay.com/itm/Levis-Mens-Wi...r-Dark-Forest-Green-Zip-Up-N223-/252331613067
Of course the Major doesn't 'look Japanese' in the original movies or series - they're cartoons. Hell, I don't think you can reasonably pin any of the characters' country of origin down based solely on their outward appearance. However given the contenxt and information we are given, plus the fact it's never explicitly stated that Motoko Kusanagi isn't, it is a reasonable assumption to make that she is, indeed, Japanese.
That there aren't any 'bankable' or A-list Japanese actresses operating out of Hollywood isn't an excuse we, as the audience, have to entertain. That this movie is an adaptation that will no doubt diverge from the source material isn't an excuse, we as the audience, have to entertain. Would it be acceptable if Marvel had cast a white actor in the role of Black Panther and had him come from a hick town near the Florida Everglades?
That there aren't any 'bankable' or A-list Japanese actresses operating out of Hollywood isn't an excuse we, as the audience, have to entertain. That this movie is an adaptation that will no doubt diverge from the source material isn't an excuse, we as the audience, have to entertain. Would it be acceptable if Marvel had cast a white actor in the role of Black Panther and had him come from a hick town near the Florida Everglades?
Salty Rice
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She looks fine.
She isnt asian but i dont really care about that anyway as long the movie is good.
She isnt asian but i dont really care about that anyway as long the movie is good.
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She's still the worst actor I've ever seen, just shows how much looks can make up for talent
I've never not been distracted by how bad she is in movies
I've never not been distracted by how bad she is in movies
TheJollyCorner
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Random question to my UK friends here on GAF:
Is 'Rupert' pronounced 'Rue-prict' across the pond, or did I imagine that?
On topic:
Don't have a ton of faith in the director. Scarjo could carry this, but eh... would rather this be another live-action Mamoru Oshii film (hey, I liked AVALON!
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Is 'Rupert' pronounced 'Rue-prict' across the pond, or did I imagine that?
On topic:
Don't have a ton of faith in the director. Scarjo could carry this, but eh... would rather this be another live-action Mamoru Oshii film (hey, I liked AVALON!
)Systolique
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Also having talked to one of the writer that was in charge of the first scripts (Bill Wheeler), he said they were going for the 1995 movie in terms of narrative, but were more looking at SAC in terms of general atmosphere.
That could work pretty well.
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Nose too big, hair not purple enough.
Regardless, the acting itself will make or break this role.
Regardless, the acting itself will make or break this role.
ThatGayWolf
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Screen cap looks like it's from Scott Pilgrim though.
Subpar Spatula
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PSY・S;200958616 said:dudes trying to bring up slight changes to a main character over different anime projects
totally comparable to a whitewashed live-action adaptation
This is so silly. Kusanagi is a cyborg with a super vague history. They even say in plenty of the shows she's just an average model so she blends in. Wasn't she in a plane crash, or some elite hacker "Firesomething", or that she can't even remember her childhood? She's just some hollow shell designed to deliver monotone exposition about life and shit. ScarJo can easily do that.
sixteen-bit
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smh, hollywood
I've only seen her work in the super hero blockbusters genre.
She is pretty wooden to me. The same dull looking "badass" face everytime.
Stand Alone Complex gave us an insight in her distant past. Still a lot of vagueness between that and current Major, but "or something" isn't doing this justice.
Even if they're going to go with a white woman it seems like a poor fit. I like scarjo but trying to imagine her ripping her arm as she tears apart a spider tank just isn't working. I think "strength" when I think of the major.
Fwiw I wasn't a fan of the majors design in Arise either. Just looked like generic anime girl.
Fwiw I wasn't a fan of the majors design in Arise either. Just looked like generic anime girl.
fallengorn
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Well, that's white Motoko.
hydragonwarrior
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Now is this busty Scarjo or the slimmed down version?
Subpar Spatula
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Yeah, hence the whole plane crash part.
For people who are so up in arms about this they must not really know much about the character. She's like at the top of the list of anime characters who really can be portrayed by any actor. You could make a movie where she has multiple bodies throughout and it wouldn't even matter. Javier Bardem would make an amazing Major.
AuthenticM
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Avi Arad is producing? lol
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True Savior
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What's with the obsession of realism? Do all comics faithfully represent the features of such race? She is supposed to be of a certain race. What she looks or doesnt look like is nothing but artsyle.
Shirow draws women in a japanese setting like this
or this
or this
or this
if its not-japanese (russian)
Off course she looks japanese. Also, Motoko is a mass production model. There's others who look like her. She's supposed to blend in. Not look like a supermodel. It's even more egregious if the whole thing is in Japan. Scarlett will stick like a sore thumb.
Aramaki looks like a monkey. No one is going to complain he doesn't look line one in the movies.
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While we're talking about who else could've portrayed her, my pick would be Elodie Yung.
DeadRockstar
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So this isn't a remake of the Oshii film? If so, thank god. I tend to easily ignore unwelcome adaptations of works I love, but the thought of somebody remaking that masterpiece because people won't watch animation or read subtitles made me want to light the Hollywood sign on fire in protest.
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Major Miranda Kardashian.
She could. Doesn't change Hollywoods awful history of whitewashing.
And in my humble opinion, Major Kusanagi looks in-world without a doubt japanese. Look at the Paper Crane Story again. Her child body looks much like her current body in younger years, down to the purple hair (without any special ethnic traits). I imagine they crated it so that it would look as much like an ordinary kid as they could. Thus I presume they crafted it to look like a ordinary japanese kid, maybe how she looked before. Thus I think that her current look is japanese too. There is no reason why she would pick an non-japanese body.
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PSY・S;200958616 said:dudes trying to bring up slight changes to a main character over different anime projects
totally comparable to a whitewashed live-action adaptation
Looks pretty white to me. Ok, the one in the middle could be played by a black lady
Systolique
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PSY・S;200959098 said:
What a great way to discuss.
For the changes in design - which you referred a few post earlier - I was mentioning people that were talking about differences with the original character apart from the whitewashing issue, it makes no sense to say her facial or body features are different when they change in every new iteration.
Violence Jack
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Meh. After Black Widow and Lucy, I think I just wanted to see someone other than ScarJo in this role.
But the director and producers of this leave me with very little faith that this will be good.
But the director and producers of this leave me with very little faith that this will be good.
Most anime characters would probably look white to you, despite most of them being without a doubt japanese.
Pilgrimzero
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How mad will fans of he anime be when her name ends up being Mary Kline or something like that?
It's white washing when you say take a white guy and say he's Egyptian. Or take a white women and say she's Japanese
It's not white washing when it's a white woman playing an American in America.
Yes the original character was Japanese in a series set in Japan. I'm willing to bet this movie isn't set in Japan and the character of "The Major" is an American cause it takes place in America.
Of course if they really want to skirt the edge it could be Motoko from Japan in a white woman body since she has the ability to do that.
It's white washing when you say take a white guy and say he's Egyptian. Or take a white women and say she's Japanese
It's not white washing when it's a white woman playing an American in America.
Yes the original character was Japanese in a series set in Japan. I'm willing to bet this movie isn't set in Japan and the character of "The Major" is an American cause it takes place in America.
Of course if they really want to skirt the edge it could be Motoko from Japan in a white woman body since she has the ability to do that.
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