She uses a common body prosthetic design, one that would blend in with the inhabitants of Japan. ScarJo is not someone who would "blend in" in Japan.
First look at ScarJo as the Major in Ghost in the Shell
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She uses a common body prosthetic design, one that would blend in with the inhabitants of Japan. ScarJo is not someone who would "blend in" in Japan.
Say what? I don't recall that being the case in any of the GITSes I've seen or read. Is that from Arise? That's an incredibly stupid idea.
Octavianus
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Maybe she's born with it..
SirRattleBalls
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I think this video sheds some light into how little Japanese people actually care that she was casted as the main character. I find it funny that they see that fact thats its just an anime and its not meant to be taken so realistically.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DhoBuU1Dtc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DhoBuU1Dtc
NinjaCoachZ
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So are a few Japanese people living in Japan now the spokespeople for Japanese people who live in America or
SirRattleBalls
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Why only Japanese people that live in America what about the rest of the western world...
bobbychalkers
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Historically speaking, it's not a crazy idea that it would happen.
This implies all Japanese people living in America have an issue with the casting. Which isn't the case. Kind of a silly comment from both of you.
Wolfe
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God dammit, lol.
ThoseDeafMutes
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Depends on the setting of the movie. If it's not really in Japan then there is no lore related issue that would say she needed to be a Japanese person, and actually even if the story said she was literally a Japanese born person residing in America or even some fictional international city in the middle of the pacific, her shell being ScarJo still wouldn't be a problem for the lore. This is a politics/representation issue, the GITS template itself is definitely flexible enough to take any number of these story, character and setting variations.
NinjaCoachZ
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You know what I mean, dawg. But the film is specifically an American production featuring American actors which is why I said America.
Did I say that? The point is that the historical context behind whitewashing is an american/western thing, not a Japanese thing.
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The more I think about this, the more it annoys me.
Paramount could have made a better effort to quash the yellowface rumors by saying "That rumor is untrue, and if you publish that we're going to sue you into the ground." Instead they said "It wasn't for HER" in the most defensive tone possible, and basically gave April Reign, Nerds of Color and the like a BFG9000 with ammo and said "please kill whatever hype and marketing we had planned".
Nerds of Color is going to make Scarlett Johansson a punchline with this film the way they made Emma Stone a punchline with Aloha, despite the apologies she made over taking that role.
I'm telling you folks, it's only going to get worse before it gets better.
Paramount could have made a better effort to quash the yellowface rumors by saying "That rumor is untrue, and if you publish that we're going to sue you into the ground." Instead they said "It wasn't for HER" in the most defensive tone possible, and basically gave April Reign, Nerds of Color and the like a BFG9000 with ammo and said "please kill whatever hype and marketing we had planned".
Nerds of Color is going to make Scarlett Johansson a punchline with this film the way they made Emma Stone a punchline with Aloha, despite the apologies she made over taking that role.
I'm telling you folks, it's only going to get worse before it gets better.
Killer Queen
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ScarJo actually looks good, but I'm not a fan of her acting.
Bato though...
Bato though...
Looks a lot better than I thought it would tbh.
Edit: They are going to get crucified for fucking up Batou's eyes.
Now that's a real reason to be hopeful about this project if true.
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Yeah a few months ago at the Anime Expo they had a panel for the film with Avi Arad in attendance. He confirmed that they want to use some of the score and since Kenji Kawai visited the set and had a positive experience it was 99.99% chance of happening.
Other bits from that panel:
- Production I.G was heavily involved in the pre-production.
- Daisuke Aramaki will only speak in Japanese in the film
- The city the live action film takes place is left "ambiguous" but the city feels more like it was depicted in GITS than a generic "Sci Fi future city".
- Tachicomas may appear..
- Filmed mostly in New Zealand because WETA is handling the visual FX, props and sets and so everything was available to the production there. A lo of the film is practical FX vs CGI.
Kenji Kawai score + those characters basically mean I am sold.
CG it? We wont see until its in post-production.
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Honestly, if it wasn't for the eyes this would be pretty damn good. But...how do you fuck up Batou's eyes this badly? Low expectations getting lower.
CG it? We wont see until its in post-production.
Nappuccino
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Honestly, if it wasn't for the eyes this would be pretty damn good. But...how do you fuck up Batou's eyes this badly? Low expectations getting lower.
I hope they're going to at least put some CG effect on that image to make up for his eyes.
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Honestly, if it wasn't for the eyes this would be pretty damn good. But...how do you fuck up Batou's eyes this badly? Low expectations getting lower.
Because the photo on the right looks bloody daft, and I can't imagine a single design were it wouldn't look worse in a live action context.
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They better. A film about cyborgs, androids, prosthesis, and they start removing open representations of this reality.
UnemployedVillain
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Batou looks like Mugatu from Zoolander. They better CG in his eyes
Those don't look bad at all.
That's goofy, I'm okay with it but damn that is strange.
heliosRAzi
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The opening shot better be with a helicopter. That's all I know.
UnemployedVillain
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And also sounds really dumb if everyone else is speaking english
Simo
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More of a tease I guess. Arad didn't have any footage, this was like 2-3 months ago, so he was just talking at the panel and I think filming was done by then?
Mononoaware
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Is that Takeshi Kitano? I didn't know he was going to be in this
MisterNugNug
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Where's Togusa?
I hope they add the eyes. Though those pictures look nearly press-ready.
What? Dude that's Batou. That's what he looks like. The fact that he chooses to keep his "bloody daft" looking ranger eyes in a world where he could easily get similar but cosmetically pleasing eyes is a part of what makes him Batou. I mean...this is Hollywood. They could make goggle eyes work.
Because the photo on the right looks bloody daft, and I can't imagine a single design were it wouldn't look worse in a live action context.
What? Dude that's Batou. That's what he looks like. The fact that he chooses to keep his "bloody daft" looking ranger eyes in a world where he could easily get similar but cosmetically pleasing eyes is a part of what makes him Batou. I mean...this is Hollywood. They could make goggle eyes work.
I don't know. She's already done nudity in film before...
It's a completely stupid, pointless and embarassing thing. I wouldn't expect it. There's also the whole ratings problematic.
Professor Renegade
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That's all I needed to hear. I'm on board, full speed ahead.
Those photos look good. Still have high hopes for this.
That is indeed Beat Takeshi. He's playing Daisuke.
Technosteve
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I feel like they can get away with the naked doll look, no nipples, no private parts
Those are not bad pics.
Reusing the original score is smart.
ScarJo has gone nude in other movies.
She won't go nude in this one because this is for sure going to be a PG-13 movie.
Reusing the original score is smart.
ScarJo has gone nude in other movies.
She won't go nude in this one because this is for sure going to be a PG-13 movie.
Is this a joke?
Edit: It's a PG-13 movie. She has done full frontal nudity in work that actually called for it. Nudity is probably not necessary for this film. Also, not wanting to be jerk-bait doesn't make you "stuck up" in the first place.
Also, for future reference: If there is a movie, and you think it NEEDS nudity, it is essentially NEVER the actor's fault if it is absent. That's not how films are made.
Batou being white doesn't bother me as much, considering he kind of always looked like a white dude. Hope that his cyber eyes are added in post. No complaints about Aramaki.
Still skeptical on this, though. If they're using the original score then that means that there are people involved in the production that really do care about the source material. I just hope we don't get some kind of mediocre middle ground where the people close to production are trying to pay respect the the source material and make a good film but that the higher ups demand alterations in the mistaken belief that those changes will help the film reach a broader audience. Or that they make a shitton of cuts in order to put the movie on more screens or something. I'm kind of sick of that being a thing.
Still skeptical on this, though. If they're using the original score then that means that there are people involved in the production that really do care about the source material. I just hope we don't get some kind of mediocre middle ground where the people close to production are trying to pay respect the the source material and make a good film but that the higher ups demand alterations in the mistaken belief that those changes will help the film reach a broader audience. Or that they make a shitton of cuts in order to put the movie on more screens or something. I'm kind of sick of that being a thing.
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