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Calverz
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ResurrectedContrarian
Suffers with mild autism
Okay, thanks for the thoughtful contribution. Have you compared wireless and wired usage of VR headsets on serious room-scale gaming? I have--with Alyx on a Quest 2, as well as with a handful of other PC VR games--and I can guarantee you that a sizeable majority of players would choose to go wireless most of the time on their PS5 if given the option. After a while, I wish I hadn't even purchased the $70 tethering cable for the Quest because there is simply not enough benefit to offset the damning usability problems of having to deal with a cord.
Low-distance streaming in the same room can have extremely low latency and high quality, and having a giant cord tethering you to the TV is easily far more of an annoyance for room-scale gaming than anything else about the headset's ergonomics or form factor.
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Craig of War
Banned
This need to be the price
Skyfox
Member
WIth the Samsung VR it had a lens adjuster that focused. So you didn't have to wear your glasses as well as the VR headset at the same time. It's a no-brainer for the millions who have to wear glasses.
If the lens adjusts but not in this way it's an incredibly stupid omission.
jhjfss
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Shizumapower
Member
But Bu Bu But... VR ... is dying.
Send me the direct-buy non-scalp link, Sony. All in.
Would love some RE 8 or CP2077 in VR... I can dream. Or just get a PC rig.
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ThaMonkeyClaw
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DeltaPolarBear
Member
It isn't cord vs no cord. It is cord vs cordless but having a heavy battery and the related heat issues. Quest 2 had to be nerfed in processing power because otherwise it would melt. A corded design solves this. And funny you mention long gaming sessions when the battery life would be a limiting factor.
ResurrectedContrarian
Suffers with mild autism
The Quest's heat tradeoffs aren't relevant at all here; it has to balance processing power and heat because it is sold as a standalone device as well, fully running and rendering its own library of games within the headset. To simply stream the content from a console does not have heavy processing requirements in the headset on a comparable level. So this is a weirdly irrelevant statement.
It's also simply bizarre to act like the minor weight of a battery is a huge deal, but having a cord on you is somehow not a huge deal. When I use a tether, I can always feel that unbalance pressure of the cord when I move quickly. It's constantly annoying, and absolutely one of the keys to making roomscale work.
On battery life -- I've never had a session where it limited me. But then again, I think playing for over 2 hours without even a break should be considered fringe rather than baseline. And the cord is always there for the types who want that kind of thing, who are almost guaranteed to just be sitting in a chair lazily anyhow.
ZehDon
Member
Looks brilliant, as always. The PSVR was a really gorgeous product that showed off Sony's history in consumer electronics well. PSVR2 continues that; it's a device made to look good and feels good to wear, and it shows. Loving the vent addition - such a simple change! - and I'll be curious to see the impact of the adjustable lens. I'm able to wear the Quest 2 without my glasses, I hope the same is true here.
- focus on ergonomics & comfort
- adjustable headband
- adjustable scope and headphone jack at the same spot as PSVR1
- new lens adjustment dial - less weight, slimmer
- new built-in motor
- new vent helps lens to avoid fog
If Sony can get Half-Life Alyx on PSVR2, that's a massive win. Game is legit magic, and it's a crime against humanity that it was overlooked so heavily because it was a VR exclusive title.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
The "but it should be wireless" people haven't seemed to consider that Sony has tried it and the results aren't measuring up. Either quality wise or the price is too steep. It's obvious that more than likely with PSVR3 it'll be wireless, given that we went from 4 wires to 1 from PSVR1 to PSVR2.
And for what Sony is trying to do, it doesn't need to be wireless since it needs a PS5 to be used.
Oddvintagechap
Banned
that trigger shouldn't b white.
mistake to not have a led face on front.
mistake to not have a led face on front.
RoadHazard
Gold Member
My Quest 2 lenses have never fogged up. Is this a problem people actually have?
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
Please work on pc!
…and make that wire not be hardwired…please….also I hope the controllers allow enough room for wrist rotations and not twatting your own headset when aiming a sniper or gun etc.
…and make that wire not be hardwired…please….also I hope the controllers allow enough room for wrist rotations and not twatting your own headset when aiming a sniper or gun etc.
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FingerBang
Member
This piece of hardware is so slick I can foresee ourselves getting several "I had my sexual awakening with my PSVR" articles in about 20 years
MachRc
Member
Maybe it helps for people who are using it more than an hour. (my VR legs are like 45 minutes)
I mean my kid looks like he came out of a coal mine after an hour of whatever he was playing [puzzling places, VRchat, Recroom]
aclar00
Member
Some people produce more body heat or are more affected by external sources than others. My head gets pretty warm wearing a cap, and similar with anything strapped to it.
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
Cv1 was my fav. I was able to finish whole Alyx in two 7 hours play sessions with some breasts. Longest I’ve ever been in vr. It was hot and I had vr face and hair for whole next week lol
Fess
Member
Just joking with the ”one cable is perfect” folks, there is a /s hidden at the bottom
For controllers I think most will agree that cables are bad, one or three cables makes no real difference. People really just don’t know better when it comes to VR headsets, yet. As far as I’m concerned the cable is the biggest oversight.
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casablanca
Member
Looks good ! worried about the compatibility with the pulse 3D tho 
As someone who purchased psvr on day one with my hard earned money Iam complled to ask that powers be dont overlook things such as
breaker box for hdr passthrough, camera drift... letting go of a hardware at a time when they done next to no rnd other then strapping on a move controller on head and playing a few god of war demos and charging ppl 500+ is not acceptable. Playing driveclub in vr made me close to vomit, I can handle Windlands. Looking forward to eye tracking... plz dont let me down again. First was a expensive demo.
breaker box for hdr passthrough, camera drift... letting go of a hardware at a time when they done next to no rnd other then strapping on a move controller on head and playing a few god of war demos and charging ppl 500+ is not acceptable. Playing driveclub in vr made me close to vomit, I can handle Windlands. Looking forward to eye tracking... plz dont let me down again. First was a expensive demo.
ZoukGalaxy
Member
Okay, thanks for the thoughtful contribution.
But no thanks, I don't want poor graphics, heavy headset and short battery life. You can keep all that for you. There is simply not enough benefit to offset the damning usability problems of having to deal with an uncomfortable heavy headset with short battery life, lag and video compression artefacts.
I will go all day every day with a ridiculous lightweight tethered cable for unlimited lag free game session @maxquality.
SONY did it 100% right with PSVR1/2 by going wired and there is a reason if all Oculus founders left Facebook after being bought. Oculus Rift S was their true last work and masterpiece. And fuck Facebook with their trash hardware made for short experience.
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Grizzled Ghost
Member
I know it probably wont have PC integration but will I be able to watch certain media with it? Can you access a Plex server with ps5?
DeltaPolarBear
Member
If psvr2 worked out, Sony could release a PC vr headset separately (at a profit). Remember that the prototype was based on development from the Sony TV divison.
Of note - PSVR's halo design has always felt pretty damn comfortable vs. the cheap straps and the likes that have been used on other headsets. So it's not a huge surprise that they carried on with it.
From a usability standpoint - they need to do is reduce the amount of wires needed to hook up. Single cable solution would be ideal if no wireless solution is on the table.
Other than that, an IPD calibration utility that actually works would be great.
It's all the little tweaks and settings that makes VR great - but those very same settings are the same ones the casual public user does not want to mess with.
From a usability standpoint - they need to do is reduce the amount of wires needed to hook up. Single cable solution would be ideal if no wireless solution is on the table.
Other than that, an IPD calibration utility that actually works would be great.
It's all the little tweaks and settings that makes VR great - but those very same settings are the same ones the casual public user does not want to mess with.
AGRacing
Member
There is absolutely no reason the PSVR2 shouldn't have PC integration. It's a single cord USB-C solution. The controller will be Bluetooth like the DualSense OR connect to the headset in some proprietary way. In either case that isn't a hurdle.
At the very least they could create a driver for this headset. A new model wouldn't be required. Perhaps it won't be ready for launch... but it will happen.. even if someone else does it for them.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Hey guys, I heard it has a wire. This true?
aclar00
Member
The problem is what looks like a non-detachable cable in the photos. Doesnt look removable, unless i missed something.
aclar00
Member
There's room for a middle ground on the next interation, but that would include a detachable battery and cable. Essentially, attach the battery for wireless use and detach it for wired use. Fidelity could be similar if the streaming tech is there. No need to have a built-in processor unless it's marketed as a super portable Meta device.
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Hawking Radiation
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Shmunter
Member
Nah, they'll do a wifi edition separate to sell it to us again
FunkMiller
Banned
Looks like a very nice revision of PSVR, which is exactly to be expected. Sony keeping things rightly simple.
Sosokrates
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Classicrockfan
Banned
If it’s 400 I will buy it any higher nope.
ReBurn
Gold Member
Same tbh
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
It should ALWAYS be this way for a PlayStation headset.
fart town usa
Member
My wife and I are trying to have a kid. Our friends just got pregnant, and we both got VR headsets a few weeks back.
When I saw my buddy last weekend I asked him, "Be honest with me, did you wear the headset?? Is that what made the difference??" lol.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Does anybody know how much the processors cost in the Quest 2? I'm sure having a mobile CPU and GPU with RAM built into the headset can't be cheap. Any data on this yet?
aclar00
Member
Ah, this is likely true...get the double dippers and convince the holdouts.
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cyberheater
PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 Xbone PS4 PS4
I want to see more game vids. Come on Sony.
LimanimaPT
Member
Dead Space PS5 VR2. Please someone make this happen.