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[Mr.City]

Okay, so if I move my feet forward, that'll fix a lot of my problems. And I'm working on driving my hips forward, it's kinda weird though lol guess I need to get more flexible. Thanks.

I'll second Shogun's recommendation of watching Rip's deadlifting videos on Youtube. Hell, I recommend his book (Starting Strength the 3rd edition) if you got the dough. Right you are

• Not dragging the bar up your legs. The must remind in contact with your body.
• bringing your knees too far forward
• making your back too vertical, which is leading to the knees too forward/hips too low
• are using a belt for what seems to be a relatively light weight
• not putting the bar back down on the ground, rather letting it hover above the floor.

 

[blackflag]

So psyched. I had maxed out my bench, incline bench, shoulder press, and 1 arm rows on my dumbbell set that only goes to 75. Been bummed because for a couple weeks I haven't been able to add weight.

Finally got a squat rack, bench, oly bar and 365 lbs of weight today. It also has a pulldown. I already had an ironmaster super bench so I didn't need that but I got it all on craigslist for 220.

Starting Strength starts on Tuesday or Wed.

 

[balddemon]

There must have been some chick with an amazing ass on the ceiling for you to be looking up like that. Keep your head straight. Your back should be neutral at all times.

Reset after each rep, the hardest part of a deadlift is getting it off the floor.

Make sure you are leading with your hips, your position is fine IMO. It's more how you are going up than the bar being to close.

You aren't supposed to drive your hips forward until the very end, drive you hips up and then stand up.

Gotcha.

Watch as many rippetoe videos as you can. There's a reason he explains the setup as he does.

Step 1 Bar bisects your foot in half (with feet inside shoulder width).

Step 2 Bend at the waist and grab the bar just enough for your hands to clear your legs.

Step 3 Now bend you knees till the bar hits your shins.

Step 4 Chest up, ass back.

Step 5 Drive with your heels and drag the bar up your shins past your knees and to your thigh to lockout.

Step 6 reverse order 5-1 and repeat if you're doing more than 1 rep sets.


This was from memory and how I do my setup, so someone correct me if my shit's fucked up so I don't lead this young lad astray.

When you're done you should have a pink/red line running up your shins and on your knees.

ok, that's pretty helpful, I'll try it out on Monday. Gonna watch this guy Rippetoe everyone's mentioning too

Granted, it looks like it's just 135 pounds, but you might want to consider not lowering it so slowly, especially once you get it past your knees (going down). You're going to burn yourself out when the weight starts getting heavy. When I get the weight past my knees going down, I pretty much just let it fall, albeit with my hands still grasping the bar.

I would be interested to see a video of your form lifting something closer to what you think is near your max lift. That looked awfully easy.

Well I can't let it slam on the floor unless I'm the only one in the gym (so after hours), and if I let it drop and then catch it, won't that strain my back?

I'll second Shogun's recommendation of watching Rip's deadlifting videos on Youtube. Hell, I recommend his book (Starting Strength the 3rd edition) if you got the dough. Right you are

• Not dragging the bar up your legs. The must remind in contact with your body.
• bringing your knees too far forward
• making your back too vertical, which is leading to the knees too forward/hips too low
• are using a belt for what seems to be a relatively light weight
• not putting the bar back down on the ground, rather letting it hover above the floor.

It's 215, which I'm gonna stick with until I get proper form down pat.

Thanks for the suggestions ya'll.

 

[Mr.City]

You can set the bar down on the ground without smashing it through the floor. If you gym has a problem with this, it might not be a real gym. Good luck

 

[balddemon]

Well he said he pretty much lets it fall...sooo that's what I meant by smashing the floor. In any case, it's not a real gym, it's Planet Fitness. I'm heading over to 24 Hour Fitness once I get a job (hopefully there).

 

[Brolic Gaoler]

Well he said he pretty much lets it fall...sooo that's what I meant by smashing the floor. In any case, it's not a real gym, it's Planet Fitness. I'm heading over to 24 Hour Fitness once I get a job (hopefully there).

There's no Gold Gym near you? That's typically your best bet unless you have a YMCA or some private small gym you can go to.

 

[deadbeef]

Well he said he pretty much lets it fall...sooo that's what I meant by smashing the floor. In any case, it's not a real gym, it's Planet Fitness. I'm heading over to 24 Hour Fitness once I get a job (hopefully there).

After the bar passes your knees there is probably 8 inches from the plate to the floor. It's not a drop so much as its letting go of the resistance on your lower back/hamstrings.

 

[kylej]

I'm going to join Golds as soon as I bench and row 80lb dumbbells. That's all my current gym goes up to (and there's no squat rack here) so I figure it'll be a nice reward to myself.

 

[Mr.City]

No squat racks? Why?

 

[Petrie]

I'm going to join Golds as soon as I bench and row 80lb dumbbells. That's all my current gym goes up to (and there's no squat rack here) so I figure it'll be a nice reward to myself.

Why are you bothering with a gym where you can't do the most important exercises? You're doing yourself quite the disservice.

 

[JB1981]

Yoooo check my form:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I07u8gQrzhs

Not sure if you are following Rippetoe's method but if you are, the main issue here is your set up. You are waaaay behind the bar.

Your scapulas are behind the bar, bar is way forward of mid foot, ass is too low.

http://startingstrength.wikia.com/wiki/Deadlift_Videos#Mark_Rippetoe:_Deadlift_Setup

Here is an excerpt from this DVD. If you don't already have it, get it. It's awesome.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_r-zAhhF2QI

 

[Brolic Gaoler]

Why are you bothering with a gym where you can't do the most important exercises? You're doing yourself quite the disservice.

I'm guessing money is an issue. Kyle is a student atm, so his university gym is probably a piece of shit. The hardest thing for him to do when the time comes will be to leave since it's full of yoga pants wearing coeds.

 

[cuevas. PhD.]

Many University gyms are actually quite well equipped, at least if you go to a larger school.

 

[zoukka]

Whoo tomorrow I'll start the SS basic program. Haven't hit the gym in 6 months which is a real shame.

I think I'll skip the powercleans and do pull ups instead until I can find someone to correctly show me how to do it and not break myself in the long run.

 

[Petrie]

I'm guessing money is an issue. Kyle is a student atm, so his university gym is probably a piece of shit. The hardest thing for him to do when the time comes will be to leave since it's full of yoga pants wearing coeds.

Fair enough then, it just sounded more like a Planet Fitness.

Whoo tomorrow I'll start the SS basic program. Haven't hit the gym in 6 months which is a real shame.

I think I'll skip the powercleans and do pull ups instead until I can find someone to correctly show me how to do it and not break myself in the long run.

Pendlay Rows are generally considered an appropriate substitute, pullups not so much.

 

[Brolic Gaoler]

Many University gyms are actually quite well equipped, at least if you go to a larger school.

Yeah, mine is pretty well equipped, but it's full of jackasses just sitting on equipment. No amount of eye candy is worth wasting my time waiting for those douches to move on.

Fair enough then, it just sounded more like a Planet Fitness.

I'm almost positive he works out in his university/college.

 

[JB1981]

Okay, so if I move my feet forward, that'll fix a lot of my problems. And I'm working on driving my hips forward, it's kinda weird though lol guess I need to get more flexible. Thanks.

You are NOT supposed to drive your hips forward at all on a heavy deadlift. This will cause a very nice disc injury. Push your feet through the floor and stand up. There is no pushing hips forward or back. None of the best deadlifters do this, they all straighten their backs up afte the bar passes the knees

 

[FallingEdge]

Working out while having a cold (coughing, sore throat, runny nose). Thoughts? Should I just rest or grind it out? I feel like I would be fine going to the gym but still not sure.

 

[kylej]

Many University gyms are actually quite well equipped, at least if you go to a larger school.

My school (UNH) has two gyms - one for the varsity athletes, and one for the rest of us. It's a big school it just doesn't have a well designed fitness center. There was a huge front page article in the student newspaper about it earlier this year

"The guidelines for the fitness space, particularly the weight space is about a square foot per person on campus," Byrne said. "So that would take us to about 14 or 15 thousand square feet. We have under seven [thousand]."

With the number of students visiting the Hamel Center increasing annually, the need for expansion is more relevant than ever.

For the first week of the current school year, the Hamel Center had a count of 19,700 students, the highest recorded usage in the history of the building.

"With some of our workouts we have to use really specific equipment," Dwyer said. "So if I'm waiting in line and there are five people in front of me it can be frustrating."

I never learned to squat there because it was literally a 45 minute+ wait to use the racks. Fuck that.

The gym I have near home is the one with only 80lb dumbbells and no squat racks. It's not Planet Fitness but it's right by my house and cheap as shit which is why I use it right now. By the time I break past 80s hopefully I'll have enough cash from working to join a real gym.

 

[Chinner]

so i'm wanting to bump my calorie uptake and shit up to 3500 calories, but that means a shit load more eating/bigger meals. does anyone know a good website for preparing meals and shit?

 

[JB1981]

so i'm wanting to bump my calorie uptake and shit up to 3500 calories, but that means a shit load more eating/bigger meals. does anyone know a good website for preparing meals and shit?

google some good crock pot recipes. do you have a crock pot?

 

[Chinner]

nope but i suppose i could get one. never really made or ate anything out of a crock pot, if thats crazy to believe.

basically i just want to have meals which have larger amounts of calories/protein in them and need ideas. eaten every 3 hours is cool, but is also really time consuming and sometimes i don't have the time to spare.

 

[Brolic Gaoler]

nope but i suppose i could get one. never really made or ate anything out of a crock pot, if thats crazy to believe.

basically i just want to have meals which have larger amounts of calories/protein in them and need ideas. eaten every 3 hours is cool, but is also really time consuming and sometimes i don't have the time to spare.

Any reason for the calorie boost?

Also, crockpot is a necessity. The easiest shit comes out of it.

There's some lady who did 365 days of crockpot or some shit like that with a different recipe for each day.

 

[Chinner]

Any reason for the calorie boost?

Also, crockpot is a necessity. The easiest shit comes out of it.

There's some lady who did 365 days of crockpot or some shit like that with a different recipe for each day.

well im eating about 2900 calories a day and not much is happening with my weight at all.

 

[Mr.City]

nope but i suppose i could get one. never really made or ate anything out of a crock pot, if thats crazy to believe.

basically i just want to have meals which have larger amounts of calories/protein in them and need ideas. eaten every 3 hours is cool, but is also really time consuming and sometimes i don't have the time to spare.

Eating every 3 hours? If you want more calories, I would go with more calorically dense food choices, like nuts, butter, beef, etc.

 

[Chinner]

yeah thats what i was trying to say, but i wasn't being direct. i just want to eat more calorie dense foods, as you say.

 

[Brolic Gaoler]

yeah thats what i was trying to say, but i wasn't being direct. i just want to eat more calorie dense foods, as you say.

Peanutbutter.


If I need energy/protein in a hurry I go all Conan the destroyer on my jar o jiffy.

Sometimes I spread it on my beefaroni burrito.

Spoiler

kidding, but seriously, peanutbutter

 

[X-Frame]

Working out while having a cold (coughing, sore throat, runny nose). Thoughts? Should I just rest or grind it out? I feel like I would be fine going to the gym but still not sure.

Remember, lifting is a marathon. Take the workout day off and rest, drink water, and sleep a lot.

You don't want to introduce more nervous system stress on an already stressed out sick nervous system that is desperately trying to rid you of the cold.

If you skip a workout or two it is nothing in the grand scheme of things. Not to mention your performance will be down in the gym anyway.

 

[Brolic Gaoler]

Remember, lifting is a marathon. Take the workout day off and rest, drink water, and sleep a lot.

You don't want to introduce more nervous system stress on an already stressed out sick nervous system that is desperately trying to rid you of the cold.

If you skip a workout or two it is nothing in the grand scheme of things. Not to mention your performance will be down in the gym anyway.

Plus, you might be contagious, think of everyone else's well being.

 

[IceCold]

Quick question guys. I have uneven pec muscles and I'm doing SS. To even them out, should I do dumbbell bench presses (stop the set when the weaker side can't continue) or would barbell bench presses balance them out with time?

 

[cuevas. PhD.]

Quick question guys. I have uneven pec muscles and I'm doing SS. To even them out, should I do dumbbell bench presses (stop the set when the weaker side can't continue) or would barbell bench presses balance them out with time?

The latter.

 

[Petrie]

Working out while having a cold (coughing, sore throat, runny nose). Thoughts? Should I just rest or grind it out? I feel like I would be fine going to the gym but still not sure.

It's a dick move to go to the gym and workout while sick, spreading your germs all over the equipment. Rest up and get well, and help everyone else stay well.

 

[snoopen]

Quick question guys. I have uneven pec muscles and I'm doing SS. To even them out, should I do dumbbell bench presses (stop the set when the weaker side can't continue) or would barbell bench presses balance them out with time?

You should be doing the same to each side of your body, you'd only worsen any imbalance by doing what you're proposing.

 

[Chinner]

Peanutbutter.


If I need energy/protein in a hurry I go all Conan the destroyer on my jar o jiffy.

Sometimes I spread it on my beefaroni burrito.

Spoiler

kidding, but seriously, peanutbutter

any other suggestions?

 

[entremet]

Working out while having a cold (coughing, sore throat, runny nose). Thoughts? Should I just rest or grind it out? I feel like I would be fine going to the gym but still not sure.

I usually skip a session. And get some rest.

 

[Jason's Ultimatum]

I'll second Shogun's recommendation of watching Rip's deadlifting videos on Youtube. Hell, I recommend his book (Starting Strength the 3rd edition) if you got the dough. Right you are

• Not dragging the bar up your legs. The must remind in contact with your body.
• bringing your knees too far forward
• making your back too vertical, which is leading to the knees too forward/hips too low
• are using a belt for what seems to be a relatively light weight
• not putting the bar back down on the ground, rather letting it hover above the floor.

here's the video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Syt7A23YnpA

 

[MjFrancis]

Peanutbutter.


If I need energy/protein in a hurry I go all Conan the destroyer on my jar o jiffy.

Sometimes I spread it on my beefaroni burrito.

Spoiler

kidding, but seriously, peanutbutter

My sister-in-law was flabbergasted at my stockpile of crunchy peanut butter. Seven 5 pound jars didn't seem excessive to me, but then again most people don't go to town on a jar with a tablespoon, either. Easy way to get 1,000 - 2,000 calories in no time.

 

[Brolic Gaoler]

any other suggestions?

Peanut Butter is the best method to get calorie dense protein in a quick way.

Other than that, just eat more.

My sister-in-law was flabbergasted at my stockpile of crunchy peanut butter. Seven 5 pound jars didn't seem excessive to me, but then again most people don't go to town on a jar with a tablespoon, either. Easy way to get 1,000 - 2,000 calories in no time.

Yeah, we have a few jars here as well. I just have some when I don't feel like mixing whey or when I'm about to go for a new big pr and know I'll need the energy.

 

[Munin]

It's almost 8 am here, I have been trying to sleep since 1 and I just can't. I have been battling with shit sleep for the past few weeks now and I just wanna cry. I just can't sleep like a fucking normal person. Then on nights like now I keep thinking about how my shit sleep will inhibit my workout the next day and I get even more frustrated and then I'll stay awake for even longer. I just can't get out of this cycle. Anyone know what I should do? I'm so fucking desperate.

 

[Brolic Gaoler]

It's almost 8 am here, I have been trying to sleep since 1 and I just can't. I have been battling with shit sleep for the past few weeks now and I just wanna cry. I just can't sleep like a fucking normal person. Then on nights like now I keep thinking about how my shit sleep will inhibit my workout the next day and I get even more frustrated and then I'll stay awake for even longer. I just can't get out of this cycle. Anyone know what I should do? I'm so fucking desperate.

Don't know man, I've been trained to pretty much go to sleep on command. Nightmares permitting I tipically sleep most of the night waking up every so often. You might want to see a doctor and cut out any stimulants you're doing.

 

[Munin]

I am not taking any meds, supplements (save for whey) or anything at all. I have had the issue for years but it just keeps coming back. I probably should try melatonin.

 

[deadbeef]

It's almost 8 am here, I have been trying to sleep since 1 and I just can't. I have been battling with shit sleep for the past few weeks now and I just wanna cry. I just can't sleep like a fucking normal person. Then on nights like now I keep thinking about how my shit sleep will inhibit my workout the next day and I get even more frustrated and then I'll stay awake for even longer. I just can't get out of this cycle. Anyone know what I should do? I'm so fucking desperate.

Have you tried various supplements or drugs? I've used melatonin, ZMA, or even Benadryl to put me to sleep some nights. Obviously you don't want to regularly use something like benadryl or some sleeping pill (or even melatonin) but I have used them to get me back on track.

 

[Munin]

Have you tried various supplements or drugs? I've used melatonin, ZMA, or even Benadryl to put me to sleep some nights. Obviously you don't want to regularly use something like benadryl or some sleeping pill (or even melatonin) but I have used them to get me back on track.

Yeah I have been just researching about ZMA too. I think I will get some melatonin and ZMA. Should / can I take both at the same time? Or just one of them?

 

[deadbeef]

Yeah I have been just researching about ZMA too. I think I will get some melatonin and ZMA. Should / can I take both at the same time? Or just one of them?

I can't see why you couldn't take both but I would try just the ZMA first

 

[JB1981]

My sister-in-law was flabbergasted at my stockpile of crunchy peanut butter. Seven 5 pound jars didn't seem excessive to me, but then again most people don't go to town on a jar with a tablespoon, either. Easy way to get 1,000 - 2,000 calories in no time.

man i wish i could eat peanut butter like that. i get awful digestive problems from it ...

 

[Carbonox]

Whoo tomorrow I'll start the SS basic program. Haven't hit the gym in 6 months which is a real shame.

I haven't been in about the same amount of time either. Pretty depressing but a new job and my footballing have prevented me from continuing.

Next month or February at the latest is when I'll be returning properly and that will include starting again on a basic program for simplicity sake. I need to get back to a good enough level that I can move on to something more advanced.

Looking forward to getting my gym on again!

 

[Mr.City]

It's almost 8 am here, I have been trying to sleep since 1 and I just can't. I have been battling with shit sleep for the past few weeks now and I just wanna cry. I just can't sleep like a fucking normal person. Then on nights like now I keep thinking about how my shit sleep will inhibit my workout the next day and I get even more frustrated and then I'll stay awake for even longer. I just can't get out of this cycle. Anyone know what I should do? I'm so fucking desperate.

Have you tried any breathing exercises?

 

[ShaneB]

man i wish i could eat peanut butter like that. i get awful digestive problems from it ...

Peanut Butter Sandwiches are my preworkout snack at the end of the work day before I go the gym, so I'll echo the sentiments here on the joys of peanut butter!

 

[HarryHengst]

It's almost 8 am here, I have been trying to sleep since 1 and I just can't. I have been battling with shit sleep for the past few weeks now and I just wanna cry. I just can't sleep like a fucking normal person. Then on nights like now I keep thinking about how my shit sleep will inhibit my workout the next day and I get even more frustrated and then I'll stay awake for even longer. I just can't get out of this cycle. Anyone know what I should do? I'm so fucking desperate.

Talk to your doctor? If this has been going on for weeks it might be something more serious.

 

[Munin]

Have you tried any breathing exercises?

Can you explain some? Sometimes I deliberately try to slow down my breathing to longer, calmer breaths but it doesn't seem to help much.

Anyway yeah, I'll try the ZMA / melatonin route now and if that doesn't help I will go to a doctor.