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Fitness |OT3| BroScience, Protein Dysentery, XXL Calf Implants, and Squat Rack Hogs

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ShaneB

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I'll pig out sometimes since my diet isn't very strict. A box of chicken wings here or a bag of chips there.

I like to think I'm pretty strict with my diet and don't splurge too often, but when stuff is free at right at my desk, and im feeling like crap because of work, they were extra tempting today. Ah well, just means today will be a must in the gym and lifting big.
 

ezrarh

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5 time world strongest man winner Mariusz Pudzianowski eats a healthy amount of chocolate, ice creams, and burgers.

From wiki

My energy comes from my diet. Breakfast is 10 eggs and two to three pounds of bacon. Between meals, I eat lots of candy. In the morning, it will be several 3 Musketeers and/or Snickers bars; I need them for energy. Lunch, at 1 or 2 PM, is a double meal of a Polish pork chop, sauerkraut and potatoes. An hour later, I work out, then take lots of supplements: magnesium, creatine, amino acids, all that stuff, and more chocolate. Dinner is whatever meat I can grab—steaks, pork chops, bacon—plus more sauerkraut and potatoes. At 9 or 10 PM, I work out again. Afterward, I have a protein shake and more chocolate. At 3 or 4 AM, I wake up and have more chocolate, then go back to sleep until morning.

You guys will be alright if you just lift like him.
 

MjFrancis

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For those in the dark, Mariusz Pudzianowski is this man here:

Mariusz-Pudzianowski.jpg
 

MrToughPants

Brian Burke punched my mom
That Pudz diet isn't true I think he was fucking with the interviewer at the time. He does eat chocolate and shit during events though you can actually see him eating chocolate during one of the WSM from a few years ago.
 
What kind of workout would you guys recommend if I go to the gym only once a week? I'm doing this Crossfit inspired training program at home with lots of bodyweight movements etc but I think I will start going to the gym on weekends to work on those heavier lifts I can't do at home. I'm basically trying to get my strength up on the following movements: squat, deadlift, power clean, incline bench & shoulder press. Any suggestion for the set & rep scheme?
 

ezrarh

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Besides the amount of chocolate he consumes, the other stuff he says isn't that ridiculous if you compare that to other strongmen diets. Those guys are eating 8000 calories or more a day. Perhaps the chocolate is the key - I think there was an article a while back on chocolate milk improving workouts?
 
Besides the amount of chocolate he consumes, the other stuff he says isn't that ridiculous if you compare that to other strongmen diets. Those guys are eating 8000 calories or more a day. Perhaps the chocolate is the key - I think there was an article a while back on chocolate milk improving workouts?
Yeah, its apparently a great post-workout drink to help recovery. Although afaik it's only been tested with athletes, who can eat and drink a bit more than someone who just lifts a couple times a week, so dont go chucking a gallon of it after a workout. :lol
 
Two questions today:

1] My chin-ups at the gym have been going up and down. I aim to do 5x5 but haven't hit that number yet. A couple weeks ago I was hitting 3x5, 1x4, 1x3. Today I hit 3x5 and 1x3. They've been down for a while. I'm thinking this may have to do with weight fluctuations -- last week I was 163 lbs and this morning I was 167 lbs. But I'm not sure if there's anything else.

Would I be helping myself if I started adding light weight to my chin-ups? Or are there other exercises I can perform that will make my chin-ups easier?

2] I like to wear jeans during the day but I've found my waist has shrunk from a 32 to about a 29. But when I wear jeans with a 29 waist they are really tight on my upper legs. Does anyone else have this issue? Is the solution just to wear larger jeans with a belt?
 
Two questions today:

1] My chin-ups at the gym have been going up and down. I aim to do 5x5 but haven't hit that number yet. A couple weeks ago I was hitting 3x5, 1x4, 1x3. Today I hit 3x5 and 1x3. They've been down for a while. I'm thinking this may have to do with weight fluctuations -- last week I was 163 lbs and this morning I was 167 lbs. But I'm not sure if there's anything else.

Would I be helping myself if I started adding light weight to my chin-ups? Or are there other exercises I can perform that will make my chin-ups easier?

2] I like to wear jeans during the day but I've found my waist has shrunk from a 32 to about a 29. But when I wear jeans with a 29 waist they are really tight on my upper legs. Does anyone else have this issue? Is the solution just to wear larger jeans with a belt?

No it would not help at all. If you want to increase the amount of pullups/chinups you can do, well just try to add 1 extra rep each workout. 5x5 isn't for bodyweight exercises either, thats a lift routine. I would just try to do as many reps as you can in 1 set, take a 1 min rest, go again, another min rest, and go again. On your next workout simply add 1 rep to your first set. If you keep at it you should be able to add a few extra reps per set each week.
 
Oh and I was told by several strength trainers a few boxing/mma coaches over the years to never add weights to bodyweight routines like pullups or dips unless you can do 15-25 (body weight is a factor here) in 1 set at full range of motion.
 
Yeah, no real need to add weight to pull/chin ups. Just do more every set. Or install a pull up bar at home and just do them throughout the day.
 

balddemon

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What kind of workout would you guys recommend if I go to the gym only once a week? I'm doing this Crossfit inspired training program at home with lots of bodyweight movements etc but I think I will start going to the gym on weekends to work on those heavier lifts I can't do at home. I'm basically trying to get my strength up on the following movements: squat, deadlift, power clean, incline bench & shoulder press. Any suggestion for the set & rep scheme?

Ya read the OP :p

It will tell you to do 5x5 (5 sets of 5 reps each) @ high weight.

Although if you're only doing it on weekends, I don't know if you'd want to change the amount.
 

rage1973

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Oh and I was told by several strength trainers a few boxing/mma coaches over the years to never add weights to bodyweight routines like pullups or dips unless you can do 15-25 (body weight is a factor here) in 1 set at full range of motion.

Did they tell you why or is this one of these Broscience again?
 

balddemon

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Yesterday my back was sore (not injured or hurting, sore). I deadlifted on wednesday, with proper form. Is this normal? It was a fatigue thing like after a good chest/tris workout, not pain. My lower back was super tight. It feels much better today, I'm just wondering if that's a normal thing to experience after deadlifting.
 
No it would not help at all. If you want to increase the amount of pullups/chinups you can do, well just try to add 1 extra rep each workout. 5x5 isn't for bodyweight exercises either, thats a lift routine. I would just try to do as many reps as you can in 1 set, take a 1 min rest, go again, another min rest, and go again. On your next workout simply add 1 rep to your first set. If you keep at it you should be able to add a few extra reps per set each week.
Thanks, I'll keep at this. I usually feel like I have more juice at the end of my first two sets. The routine I'm following has me do 5x5 of squat, chin ups, and bench , then 2x10 of wrist work and 2x15-20 on calves on one workout, so that's what I've been doing. I have no problems mixing up the way I'm doing chins though. Also added dumbbell bench press today to focus more on my chest than the bench.
 
Yesterday my back was sore (not injured or hurting, sore). I deadlifted on wednesday, with proper form. Is this normal? It was a fatigue thing like after a good chest/tris workout, not pain. My lower back was super tight. It feels much better today, I'm just wondering if that's normal.

You are saying it felt like normal muscle pain, and you felt it the day after working out, and it's gone now? It's completely ok. It goes away with consistency like most muscle soreness.
 

balddemon

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You are saying it felt like normal muscle pain, and you felt it the day after working out, and it's gone now? It's completely ok. It goes away with consistency like most muscle soreness.

alright, cool. I've never deadlifted before and wasn't sure what to expect. Thanks.
 

Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
After 4 days of rolling my weight belt back and forth and putting my fully stacked power blocks on it, it's finally broke in enough to use.

Gonna give it a go tomorrow with press. ;)

Nope I was doing some standing dumbbell overhead press.

Then how in the hell did you strain your neck?!?
 
I want to stay my weight at 170 but only want to add more muscle instead of fat. How do I go about doing that, like that one dude who weight 70kg in the beginning and staying that weight at his end goal, but with more muscle?
 
Did they tell you why or is this one of these Broscience again?

Because your own bodyweight is sufficient enough on a pullup or dip until you're able to get into the 15-20+ range in 1 set. These type of exercises do not fall into the same category as weight lifts or power lifts, so simply adding more weights and doing low reps will not yield the same effects as being able to do higher reps per set. Someone who naturaly progressed to doing 20 pullups in 1 set will be much stronger see much better results from starting to add weight to their routine than someone that does say 5x5 with a 20lb on his waist and is never able to progress into the higher rep ranges.
 

rage1973

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After 4 days of rolling my weight belt back and forth and putting my fully stacked power blocks on it, it's finally broke in enough to use.

Gonna give it a go tomorrow with press. ;)



Then how in the hell did you strain your neck?!?

I think I have weak neck muscles or maybe some damage or something.
I was thinking of buying one of those neck trainers and start training my neck with light weights.
 

Veezy

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I disagree with this, why not add weight like every other workout?

Exactly. Adding weight to your pull ups/chin ups and setting rep goals while increasing the weight gradually will lead to results.

Adding 10lbs to your chin for five reps is fifty lbs of additional volume. that's not a bad thing.
 
Exactly. Adding weight to your pull ups/chin ups and setting rep goals while increasing the weight gradually will lead to results.

Adding 10lbs to your chin for five reps is fifty lbs of additional volume. that's not a bad thing.

But squeezing out one extra full range rep for the 6th rep at an avrg body weight of 180 is 180lbs extra of volume than if you didn't add that 10lbs to begin with...

The point is, for the poster who originally raised the question, is if youre already struggling with pullups/chinups at that low of a rep range, the last thing you want to do is add weight.
 

Cooter

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But squeezing out one extra full range rep for the 6th rep at an avrg body weight of 180 is 180lbs extra of volume than if you didn't add that 10lbs to begin with...

The point is, for the poster who originally raised the question, is if you're already struggling with pullups/chinups at that low of a rep range, the last thing you want to do is add weight.

This. You should only be adding weight if you can perform 15-20 controlled pull ups. I'm 185 and have worked myself up to 12+25lbs, 10+35 8+45, 6+45. Pull ups are the best. Hands down my favorite exercise for any muscle.

EDIT: One more thing, buy yourself a pull up bar for home. I have seen nice gains increasing my weekly volume.
 
This. You should only be adding weight if you can perform 15-20 controlled pull ups. I'm 185 and have worked myself up to 12+25lbs, 10+35 8+45, 6+45. Pull ups are the best. Hands down my favorite exercise for any muscle.

EDIT: One more thing, buy yourself a pull up bar for home. I have seen nice gains increasing my weekly volume.
My thought about adding weight to the chin up was that if I could complete 5 reps at body weight + 10lbs, then it would be considerably easier to complete higher reps with just my body weight. But it was just a thought, I could be totally wrong there.

I've wanted a pull up bar for my house for a while, I think I have one door frame it would work with.
 

Cooter

Lacks the power of instantaneous movement
My thought about adding weight to the chin up was that if I could complete 5 reps at body weight + 10lbs, then it would be considerably easier to complete higher reps with just my body weight. But it was just a thought, I could be totally wrong there.

I've wanted a pull up bar for my house for a while, I think I have one door frame it would work with.

Get one and do 5-10 every couple of times you walk by. This will increase your strength more right now than adding weight and performing low reps.
 

Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
I think I have weak neck muscles or maybe some damage or something.
I was thinking of buying one of those neck trainers and start training my neck with light weights.

I would definitely look into something. I literally spend the last day and a half trying to figure out how you possibly could have hurt your neck doing standing press and I can only think your form is incredibly bad (it would have to be comically bad I think, so this isn't a slight at you at all) or something else is wrong.

This. You should only be adding weight if you can perform 15-20 controlled pull ups. I'm 185 and have worked myself up to 12+25lbs, 10+35 8+45, 6+45. Pull ups are the best. Hands down my favorite exercise for any muscle.

EDIT: One more thing, buy yourself a pull up bar for home. I have seen nice gains increasing my weekly volume.

Which one did you buy? I'm wary of using those door frame ones. My fat ass would probably bring the entire house down.

Failed on my 5/3/1 week of squats. Feels bad man.

Too much cardio?
Not enough food or sleep?
Time to reset?
Who knows...

Sucks man, but you DID just add cardio, so that's probably it. You probably just need more gas in the tank.
 
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