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Fitness |OT3| BroScience, Protein Dysentery, XXL Calf Implants, and Squat Rack Hogs

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kylej

Banned
Also stop looking at the scale, not only are those body fat calculations worthless, but you'll probably go up in weight now that you're pounding away at major lifts. Doesn't mean you're turning into a fatass.
 

Petrie

Banned
Also stop looking at the scale, not only are those body fat calculations worthless, but you'll probably go up in weight now that you're pounding away at major lifts. Doesn't mean you're turning into a fatass.
This again and again. The scale is nearly meaningless. Focusing on it will only derail your progress. That, and you can't judge anything with a routine from a week.
 

ezrarh

Member
Yeah, you're not going to see anything noticeable after the first week of starting strength. If you're doing it right, you'll be starting out with low enough weights that you'll be able to continually add 5-10 lbs each session for the first month or more.
 

Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
This again and again. The scale is nearly meaningless. Focusing on it will only derail your progress. That, and you can't judge anything with a routine from a week.

Yep, the mirror and your clothes fit is the best indicator.

Over the last year I've gone from 38s being tight to 36s needing a belt. Gained a load of muscle and stayed at 240ish the entire time.
 

Davidion

Member
Yep, the mirror and your clothes fit is the best indicator.

Over the last year I've gone from 38s being tight to 36s needing a belt. Gained a load of muscle and stayed at 240ish the entire time.

It unfortunately has other side effects as well. Whereas my waist has shrunk a couple of inches like you from loss of visceral fat, sticking to a routine has lead to an increase in strength and visible muscle mass, and somewhat problematically, larger chest and shoulders. This has translated into all of my undershirts becoming tight and causing at least one winter coat, which I bought on sale earlier in the year, to no longer fit.

You get fat, clothes don't fit. You build muscle, clothes don't fit. Certainly there are worse problems in life, but still.
 

Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
It unfortunately has other side effects as well. Whereas my waist has shrunk a couple of inches like you from loss of visceral fat, sticking to a routine has lead to an increase in strength and visible muscle mass, and somewhat problematically, larger chest and shoulders. This has translated into all of my undershirts becoming tight and causing at least one winter coat, which I bought on sale earlier in the year, to no longer fit.

You get fat, clothes don't fit. You build muscle, clothes don't fit. Certainly there are worse problems in life, but still.

Those are good problems to have.
 

MjFrancis

Member
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"You Are Going To Die" - great advice, lol. I didn't catch that at the time. That's how weary I was.

My father sent me a quick picture of my wife and myself snowshoeing in the morning. Just an hour later we'd be secured in the visitor's center, and two hours after that we'd be surrounded by park rangers armed with AR15's telling everyone to get down on the ground with their hands on their head (they still didn't have a trail on the shooter and since the center was a half mile from the incident, they didn't want to take any chances that he was hidden among us). After everyone was cleared it got much less stressful and the park staff was really awesome and extra hospitable (free food, bedding, etc).

So if anyone has a chance to visit Mt Rainier, there's dozens of wonderful places to hike or snoeshoe. That's the part I'll be back for.

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Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
Wow, great beard!

I hope to spend some time up in the PNW (likely Mount Hood) this spring, but plans keep getting pushed back.

That's an understatement.

If I were him I would name it the monolith and every morning when I combed it I would play 2001 Space Odyssey theme.

That thing is bigger than his wife!
 

goldenpp72

Member
Well, what about the dehydration feeling, it seems so bizarre to be drinking so much milk/water yet I feel thirsty, dry in the throat, yet pissing all day lol.

And yeah i'm not judging the routine by a week, I plan to stick to it for awhile before making a personal judgement, just I guess the idea of weight gain and no strength gain is concerning, only because well, I was 30 pounds heavier once with the same strength. Should I really reduce the bread for breakfast, the 2 pieces come to be like 30 carbs, but it is 100 percent whole wheat.

I will try to inject food in place of the weight gainer shake, I still have a 10 lb bag of it but i'll keep it on the side for now, thanks!
 

reilo

learning some important life lessons from magical Negroes
Sounds like the symptoms I had before being diagnosed with type 1 diabetes.

Depends when he is feeling thirsty, no? If he's feeling thirsty while working out that doesn't seem as big of a concern, but if he's constantly thirsty throughout the day (even after ingesting water) then that can be a symptom worth looking into.
 

Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
Depends when he is feeling thirsty, no? If he's feeling thirsty while working out that doesn't seem as big of a concern, but if he's constantly thirsty throughout the day (even after ingesting water) then that can be a symptom worth looking into.

Could be his supplements too.

I get like that when I do my protein and especially my creatine.
 

goldenpp72

Member
Depends when he is feeling thirsty, no? If he's feeling thirsty while working out that doesn't seem as big of a concern, but if he's constantly thirsty throughout the day (even after ingesting water) then that can be a symptom worth looking into.

Well it only started happening after I started drinking a lot of water/milk, usually I feel just fine, so I was wondering if it might be a normal effect that will adjust, same for the pissing constantly, is it possible to over hydrate in this case? I am using creatine and those mention supplements as well though, as well as mixing some whey into the milk since I hate milk.
 

MjFrancis

Member
Yep, you're a Northwester.

What obscure IPA are you drinking right now?
You got me. This is awesome because I had a Lagunita's IPA when I got back this morning (screw fasting I needed a drink after that ordeal) and I currently have a Dogfishhead 90-minute IPA and a Boulevard Single-Wide IPA in my fridge.

I'm also posting next to a six gallon carboy of fermenting brown ale that we made New Year's Eve.

:lol

Nice beard there - how long have you been growing that?
Ten months. I was born to be bearded. I'm going for at least a full year before I trim anything.

So yeah, that's why I don't really front squat these days.
 

reilo

learning some important life lessons from magical Negroes
You got me. This is awesome because I had a Lagunita's IPA when I got back this morning (screw fasting I needed a drink after that ordeal) and I currently have a Dogfishhead 90-minute IPA and a Boulevard Single-Wide IPA in my fridge.

I'm also posting next to a six gallon carboy of fermenting brown ale that we made New Year's Eve.

*northwestbrofist*
 

abuC

Member
"You Are Going To Die" - great advice, lol. I didn't catch that at the time. That's how weary I was.

My father sent me a quick picture of my wife and myself snowshoeing in the morning. Just an hour later we'd be secured in the visitor's center, and two hours after that we'd be surrounded by park rangers armed with AR15's telling everyone to get down on the ground with their hands on their head (they still didn't have a trail on the shooter and since the center was a half mile from the incident, they didn't want to take any chances that he was hidden among us). After everyone was cleared it got much less stressful and the park staff was really awesome and extra hospitable (free food, bedding, etc).

So if anyone has a chance to visit Mt Rainier, there's dozens of wonderful places to hike or snoeshoe. That's the part I'll be back for.

IEJOS.jpg


I thought I had a cool beard last month, yet here you are, raining on my parade.
 

Petrie

Banned
Depends when he is feeling thirsty, no? If he's feeling thirsty while working out that doesn't seem as big of a concern, but if he's constantly thirsty throughout the day (even after ingesting water) then that can be a symptom worth looking into.
He specificallyy said peeing constantly and always thirst though.
 

Carbonox

Member
2012 means a return to the gym for me after a bit of a hiatus due to a new job. However, I'm torn between just going ahead and returning this month, as I am away for a week anyway at the end of the month, with no time to go to the gym while I'm away (unless anyone has recommendations for gyms in or around Emeryville/surrounding areas - especially those that allow day visits), or just waiting until the beginning of February.

If I choose the latter, what prep work can I do this month? I've already been writing up diet plans, program plans, etc. so I'm ready in those regards but is there anything I should do fitness-wise for this month (things to do at home) if I decide to wait? Would it be beneficial?

Or shall I just sit back, go about my month normally and then start the work in February?

The problem with this month is that I've got a lot to do and prepare for for my trip, so it's tight.
 

Mr.City

Member
2012 means a return to the gym for me after a bit of a hiatus due to a new job. However, I'm torn between just going ahead and returning this month, as I am away for a week anyway at the end of the month, with no time to go to the gym while I'm away (unless anyone has recommendations for gyms in or around Emeryville/surrounding areas - especially those that allow day visits), or just waiting until the beginning of February.

If I choose the latter, what prep work can I do this month? I've already been writing up diet plans, program plans, etc. so I'm ready in those regards but is there anything I should do fitness-wise for this month (things to do at home) if I decide to wait? Would it be beneficial?

Or shall I just sit back, go about my month normally and then start the work in February?

The problem with this month is that I've got a lot to do and prepare for for my trip, so it's tight.

You could do a search of the area via Google maps and call some, or depending on your routine, you could always do some bodyweight stuff in your hotel room.
 
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Deleted member 12837

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I signed up for a Rugged Maniac 5k race with some friends that's scheduled in April, but I haven't really done any cardio for a while. I'd like to incorporate enough conditioning into my routine that I'll be plenty prepared to run the 5k, but with minimal hindrance to building muscle and strength on an SS program.

What do you guys recommend? 2x per week runs on off-days or 3x per week runs post-training? HIIT or regular running (at ~7.5-8 mph, building up to and slightly past a 5k)?

Has anyone ever run one of these obstacle course races before?
 

Mr.City

Member
I signed up for a Rugged Maniac 5k race with some friends that's scheduled in April, but I haven't really done any cardio for a while. I'd like to incorporate enough conditioning into my routine that I'll be plenty prepared to run the 5k, but with minimal hindrance to building muscle and strength on an SS program.

What do you guys recommend? 2x per week runs on off-days or 3x per week runs post-training? HIIT or regular running (at ~7.5-8 mph, building up to and slightly past a 5k)?

Has anyone ever run one of these obstacle course races before?

Might be a little bit of a problem. But let's see

http://board.crossfit.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=5781&d=1265323011

This is a good strength and conditioning program by Justin Lascek of 70s big. As for programming your conditioning, I wouldn't know.
 

Dany

Banned
Just got back from a month of not working out! My abs are sore and I feel like throwing up!!!

Great day, :p also gym at depaul was PACKED!
 

abuC

Member
I signed up for a Rugged Maniac 5k race with some friends that's scheduled in April, but I haven't really done any cardio for a while. I'd like to incorporate enough conditioning into my routine that I'll be plenty prepared to run the 5k, but with minimal hindrance to building muscle and strength on an SS program.

What do you guys recommend? 2x per week runs on off-days or 3x per week runs post-training? HIIT or regular running (at ~7.5-8 mph, building up to and slightly past a 5k)?

Has anyone ever run one of these obstacle course races before?



Im going to do a sprint program, mainly because I look at sprinters and they are jacked in a lot of cases despite doing a lot of running. So, whatever they're doing can't be hindering muscle growth.

http://www.bodytransformationlab.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/shawn-crawford-sprinter-muscle.jpg


http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/tomgreen.htm
 

balddemon

Banned
Once Christmas break is over, I'm going to start a bodyweight program in conjunction with Leangains. Goal is shredded!
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Program will look something like this:
Pullups, Pushups, Planks and Squats.
Triple P every day minus Sunday.
Triple P+S MWF.
Triple P+HIIT TThS.

Pushups I'll be doing: http://www.livestrong.com/article/112657-many-different-kinds-push-ups/
Squats I'm considering doing: http://exercise.about.com/od/lowerbodyworkouts/ig/Lower-Body-Exercise-Photos/ (I have a lot of different leg workouts I can do)
 
I'm prepared for my form to be judged. I lay myself at your mercy, FitGaf.

Edit:

I need to get some better shot videos, and I'll try again in a week. Thanks for the feedback everyone.
 
I'm prepared for my form to be judged. I lay myself at your mercy, FitGaf.

Things you may make fun of me for:

High black socks (I wear them to take care of business)
Manta Ray (Yes, I'm a pussy and use a manta ray)

Squat:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxlGN9fno0Q

Deadlift:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrJapGrjpFU

Thanks in advance.

The squat is good, but try to keep looking a little above you, and pace yourself. It looked like you were in a hurry.

Deadlift is always difficult for me as I try to bring my ass down. Try this video for useful information:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Syt7A23YnpA&feature=relmfu
 

Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
I'd like to see that deadlift with a heavier weight. Your form looks like it could be messed up, but the light weight isn't helping anything either.

It's also hard to judge the squat due to dark light, dark clothing and poor angle of the phone/video camera.

None of it looked atrocious, but it's hard for me to see what's going wrong too.
 

X-Frame

Member
I just completed a 24 hour fast and it was absolutely nothing. Despite maybe 2 or 3 moments of hunger grumblings, I felt absolutely fine the entire day. Mostly played video games, watched Netflix, and went for a 45 minute walk around the block this afternoon to stay busy.

Broke my fast an hour ago with a regular sized meal and that's it for today until tomorrow when I go back to regular eating.

It's crazy, but all my muscle hasn't melted off yet .. stay tuned though ..
 

abuC

Member
I just completed a 24 hour fast and it was absolutely nothing. Despite maybe 2 or 3 moments of hunger grumblings, I felt absolutely fine the entire day. Mostly played video games, watched Netflix, and went for a 45 minute walk around the block this afternoon to stay busy.

Broke my fast an hour ago with a regular sized meal and that's it for today until tomorrow when I go back to regular eating.

It's crazy, but all my muscle hasn't melted off yet .. stay tuned though ..

Thats what Im talkin bout:

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Mr.City

Member
I'm prepared for my form to be judged. I lay myself at your mercy, FitGaf.

Things you may make fun of me for:

High black socks (I wear them to take care of business)
Manta Ray (Yes, I'm a pussy and use a manta ray)

Squat:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxlGN9fno0Q

Deadlift:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrJapGrjpFU

Thanks in advance.

Before anything else, read this and this

Squat: I can't really tell what's going here. The angles are bad, and your buddy is moving the camera around. Maybe rounding of the back bottom?

Deadlift: You're not setting your back, and your neck is cranked up.

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Here's your once the bar leaves the floor. Your back is not tight, and your neck is cranked upward excessively. Your legs have almost fully extended, but the bar is only beginning to leave the floor. The weight also looks very light to you as well.
 
Before anything else, read this and this

Squat: I can't really tell what's going here. The angles are bad, and your buddy is moving the camera around. Maybe rounding of the back bottom?

Deadlift: You're not setting your back, and your neck is cranked up.

Here's your once the bar leaves the floor. Your back is not tight, and your neck is cranked upward excessively. Your legs have almost fully extended, but the bar is only beginning to leave the floor. The weight also looks very light to you as well.

Thanks for the feedback. I'm going to try and get some better quality videos based on what you posted. I also need to wear some lighter colors, so it's easier to make everything out.

I'll work on the neck. That's definitely out of line. I wouldn't call it light, but it's not super heavy. I'm just following the progression, and this is where I'm at right now. My back feels good during and after the lift, but I do see the curve in the upper part of my back. I'll try to get that in line.

Thanks again.
 
I started Insanity last night. Two down, 58 to go :p Shit is brutal and I'm coming in cold turkey cardio wise (been doing SL 5x5 for the past 4 months). I have high hopes. I don't see how I can NOT burn a ton of fat doing it. anyone been through the program?
 
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Deleted member 12837

Unconfirmed Member
Im going to do a sprint program, mainly because I look at sprinters and they are jacked in a lot of cases despite doing a lot of running. So, whatever they're doing can't be hindering muscle growth.

http://www.bodytransformationlab.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/shawn-crawford-sprinter-muscle.jpg


http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/tomgreen.htm

0_0 that program seems a little extreme for what I'm doing, but I think the takeaway might be the HIIT could be the better training option for me right now.

Might be a little bit of a problem. But let's see

http://board.crossfit.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=5781&d=1265323011

This is a good strength and conditioning program by Justin Lascek of 70s big. As for programming your conditioning, I wouldn't know.

Thanks, I'll take a look through that.

edit: also, I don't expect to make very large gains during this time or anything. I just want to do a little better than strictly maintaining what I have. I honestly don't think the cardio I'll be doing is even that much, I mean, it's only a 5K...
 

MjFrancis

Member
I just completed a 24 hour fast and it was absolutely nothing. Despite maybe 2 or 3 moments of hunger grumblings, I felt absolutely fine the entire day. Mostly played video games, watched Netflix, and went for a 45 minute walk around the block this afternoon to stay busy.

Broke my fast an hour ago with a regular sized meal and that's it for today until tomorrow when I go back to regular eating.

It's crazy, but all my muscle hasn't melted off yet .. stay tuned though ..
Congrats, even though I intermittently fast myself, doing so for twenty-four full hours sounds like a real challenge. Good job on making it easy for yourself.
 

X-Frame

Member
Congrats, even though I intermittently fast myself, doing so for twenty-four full hours sounds like a real challenge. Good job on making it easy for yourself.

It seemed much easier than I thought it was. Since I ate a lot of tasty but not so healthy foods on NYE with my friends, plus the alcohol, and that I had today off from work it would be a great day to do a trial fast.

The LeanGains method seems better suited for me, as I'd much rather eat less but larger meals but they would have to be very big in order for me to continue to put on lean mass. Dropping my first 3 meals of the day, not including any snacks, and adding those calories to the end of the day will be tough.

I'll need to get some ideas on meals.
 

balddemon

Banned
I started Insanity last night. Two down, 58 to go :p Shit is brutal and I'm coming in cold turkey cardio wise (been doing SL 5x5 for the past 4 months). I have high hopes. I don't see how I can NOT burn a ton of fat doing it. anyone been through the program?

Yes. It's hard as hell. Won't do much fat burning with a shitty diet though. I got in better shape but looked pretty much the same.

Also, I have a DL video I'm about to upload doing 315 so ya'll can judge my heavy weight. My neck was not neutral btw, I'll just get that out of the way for cuevas.

EDIT: Best watched muted lol. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQzs3bO-h3M&feature=youtu.be
 

Lamel

Banned
Yes. It's hard as hell. Won't do much fat burning with a shitty diet though. I got in better shape but looked pretty much the same.

Also, I have a DL video I'm about to upload doing 315 so ya'll can judge my heavy weight. My neck was not neutral btw, I'll just get that out of the way for cuevas.

EDIT: Best watched muted lol. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQzs3bO-h3M&feature=youtu.be

Lmao won't comment on form, but the camera guy is hilarious.
 

rCIZZLE

Member
Well, not even a week into lifting and I've already been stumped by a problem. When trying to do DB shrugs I found out the grip in my right hand is absolutely terrible. Does anybody have an suggestions for both ways to strengthen my grip and be able to better perform shrugs?
 
Well, not even a week into lifting and I've already been stumped by a problem. When trying to do DB shrugs I found out the grip in my right hand is absolutely terrible. Does anybody have an suggestions for both ways to strengthen my grip and be able to better perform shrugs?

If this is your first week lifting, why are you doing shrugs?
 
Lmao won't comment on form, but the camera guy is hilarious.
LOL, he sounds like one of my friends when he lifts.

Well, not even a week into lifting and I've already been stumped by a problem. When trying to do DB shrugs I found out the grip in my right hand is absolutely terrible. Does anybody have an suggestions for both ways to strengthen my grip and be able to better perform shrugs?
Do deadlifts.
 

rando14

Member
Eh, shrugs are an isolation exercise. It's not like you shouldn't do it, it's more like you don't really have to if you're doing exercises like deadlifts. Spend that energy towards more effective exercises.
 
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