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Fitness |OT3| BroScience, Protein Dysentery, XXL Calf Implants, and Squat Rack Hogs
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It could be. 60 lbs in a year is tough but doable. Good luck.
Side note: what's with gaf and all these big benches?
FallingEdge
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Your guys lift numbers are insane! I hope that one day I can get there. For me, the next few months I'm focusing hard on my chest. My pecs are in a sad state lol.
They don't sound that big to me. Considering this thread attracts people who have been lifting for a while it makes sense. If you were seeing a bunch in the 400s and 500s I would agree.
It's not that impressive when you consider I'm currently 250lbs.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
You're close to me. I 1rm 350 back in July, and I got up to 340 3x3 before going back to 3x5 (which I'm back at 315 for that which IMO is more impressive than 340 3x3). My 1rm is probably around 370-390 atm and I'm hoping to hit 455 by the end of this year/beginning of next year.
We can do it.
I REALLY wanna get 300/315 for press this year. That would make me super happy (currently at 245)
You're close to me. I 1rm 350 back in July, and I got up to 340 3x3 before going back to 3x5 (which I'm back at 315 for that which IMO is more impressive than 340 3x3). My 1rm is probably around 370-390 atm and I'm hoping to hit 455 by the end of this year/beginning of next year.
We can do it.
I REALLY wanna get 300/315 for press this year. That would make me super happy (currently at 245)
I would have to come over and congratulate you if I witnessed that. Eat big my man. Good luck! A 315 press is STRONG!
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
If I even make it to 280 I'll start recording me doing it. As it is people at the gym stop to watch me when I do over 200 for reps.
I think some people don't believe me when I tell them I can do 245 1rm.
If I DID get 315 this year I'd have to throw a fucking party, haha.
Or it will be full of new people not knowing wtf to do and talking while being in the way.
Lasthope106
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I'm hurting like a mofo after Fridays double whammy of squats and deadlifts. Can barely get up today. I sure hope the soreness will be gone by tomorrow - have an arms and shoulder workout to attend.
I've seen one other guy besides myself do them and he did the "from the chin to an inch above the head" form of them.
Why aren't they common? I enjoy them. Most gymmers I see don't do any compound outside of benching, it's good because I can DL and squat without any wait generally.
Probably the same reason why you don't see people do deadlifts or squats. I think the barbell makes it more intimidating although it often times be simpler than working with dumbbells. I mean, guys usually want to work on shoulders but they will do dumbbell presses instead.
Skel1ingt0n
I can't *believe* these lazy developers keep making file sizes so damn large. Btw, how does technology work?
I graduated in May, and when I couldn't find a job, I began to piggy-back off my mother's YMCA membership. I started going about three times a week, 45 minutes a piece. In August & September, I started going ~5 days a week. Started settling down back to 3 times a week until late November, and unfortunately, have only gone once or twice in December.
Anyhoo, though, save for this last month, I'm really proud of myself for sticking with it. I broke up with my girlfriend a couple weeks ago; and now that I'm "back on the market" (though I have no desire to date anytime soon, lol), I figure it's a good excuse to *really* try to get in shape this year. If I could stick with it for six months, I can stick with it for 12 more.
I have absolutely ZERO idea what I'm doing, and am more going to "stay active" than anything. My entire life I've been a pretty decent and mildly fit looking fellow. But in the last two years or so, I've put on quite a bit of weight on my stomach and chest.... I'm slowly starting to get man-boobs But, unlike 90% of people; I want to actually nip it in the bud before things get worse.
I'm just a hair shy of 6'2", and currently weigh 238lbs. Doing BMI tests and looking online, I'm apparently massively overweight; but while I don't want to be in denial, I really don't feel like I'm that terribly out of shape. Most guides say I should be in the 170-180lbs range; that just sounds absurd. I think I would look - and feel - my best around 210-220lbs, depending on if I put on some muscle mass.
My lower legs are very well defined, and my upper legs look fine. My arms are muscly and not fatty. So, as I alluded to earlier, I'd like to bulk up my arms a bit, work off the belly fat, and bulk up my chest.
I don't know how to do any lift machines, so I typically just do free weights. I can do 2 sets of 8 reps at 140lbs. Typical work out is 30 minutes on the elliptical, 10min mile pace, at 10/incline & 10/resistance. Then I do 15 minutes of just random free weight lifting.
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TL;DR - what two or three things should I be doing to increase bicep bulk, and reduce fat on my belly and chest? I'm not looking for a crazy routine, or a lot of thought... I'd prefer to just have a couple things I can check off when I go to the YMCA 3 or 4 times a week. I don't care to get ripped; just a bit more fit. I want to make my body happier ;p
Also, I've decided to completely cut out soda this year (except for at the movies). I drink like a liter a day, and I know it's killing me; so hopefully that should make a difference, too. As for food, I think I eat fairly healthy - salmon/swordfish/ahi/steak with typically either green beans or asparagus. A light bit of olive oil on the veggies, and a bit of pepper on the meat.
Anyhoooooooooo.... sorry, just kinda thinking out loud. Any quick tips would be welcomed! Thanks!
EDIT: My apologies, I clicked on "first page" and it brought me to the last post from the OP. I'm reading everything now. Was confused at first. My bad.
Anyhoo, though, save for this last month, I'm really proud of myself for sticking with it. I broke up with my girlfriend a couple weeks ago; and now that I'm "back on the market" (though I have no desire to date anytime soon, lol), I figure it's a good excuse to *really* try to get in shape this year. If I could stick with it for six months, I can stick with it for 12 more.
I have absolutely ZERO idea what I'm doing, and am more going to "stay active" than anything. My entire life I've been a pretty decent and mildly fit looking fellow. But in the last two years or so, I've put on quite a bit of weight on my stomach and chest.... I'm slowly starting to get man-boobs
But, unlike 90% of people; I want to actually nip it in the bud before things get worse. I'm just a hair shy of 6'2", and currently weigh 238lbs. Doing BMI tests and looking online, I'm apparently massively overweight; but while I don't want to be in denial, I really don't feel like I'm that terribly out of shape. Most guides say I should be in the 170-180lbs range; that just sounds absurd. I think I would look - and feel - my best around 210-220lbs, depending on if I put on some muscle mass.
My lower legs are very well defined, and my upper legs look fine. My arms are muscly and not fatty. So, as I alluded to earlier, I'd like to bulk up my arms a bit, work off the belly fat, and bulk up my chest.
I don't know how to do any lift machines, so I typically just do free weights. I can do 2 sets of 8 reps at 140lbs. Typical work out is 30 minutes on the elliptical, 10min mile pace, at 10/incline & 10/resistance. Then I do 15 minutes of just random free weight lifting.
****
TL;DR - what two or three things should I be doing to increase bicep bulk, and reduce fat on my belly and chest? I'm not looking for a crazy routine, or a lot of thought... I'd prefer to just have a couple things I can check off when I go to the YMCA 3 or 4 times a week. I don't care to get ripped; just a bit more fit. I want to make my body happier ;p
Also, I've decided to completely cut out soda this year (except for at the movies). I drink like a liter a day, and I know it's killing me; so hopefully that should make a difference, too. As for food, I think I eat fairly healthy - salmon/swordfish/ahi/steak with typically either green beans or asparagus. A light bit of olive oil on the veggies, and a bit of pepper on the meat.
Anyhoooooooooo.... sorry, just kinda thinking out loud. Any quick tips would be welcomed! Thanks!
EDIT: My apologies, I clicked on "first page" and it brought me to the last post from the OP. I'm reading everything now. Was confused at first. My bad.
Do Starting Strength. Read the OP. Compound movements - squats, deads, shoulder press, lat pulldowns, rows, bench, pullups - eat clean and at a caloric surplus, always push for one more rep or higher weight each workout (progressive overload), track your lifting (Fitocracy, journal, etc). Your body will recompose itself quickly.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
I can do that 3x3 now, lol.
Come to think of it. I've never seen anyone press anything close to what I do at my gym, but I don't go in the evening either.
I probably just have good shoulders.
The fuck?
Barbell press IMO is the best shoulder workout, but I'm no expert.
Is it really that hard to believe?
cuevas. PhD.
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Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
Not really, but that's the worst I've heard of. I've heard of going to the chin and extending all the way which is still half assed, but not even locking out at the top is just absurd. Almost like it would be harder.
Was he sitting down too?
cuevas. PhD.
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Seated military press is harder than standing press.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
If you say so.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
Not to mention having to use your body to stabilize the weight as opposed to sitting on your ass with your legs on the ground in a stable base.
He's going to argue about using your hips to get the weight up I'm sure.
Seated is easier, but if he believes it's harder, then let him believe it.
That's not true.
cuevas. PhD.
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When I switched to stronglifts I switched and was able to start at the same weight and it felt lighter, I know it seems odd but you have better leverage when you are standing up. The bar can go straight up as you can move under the bar with ease.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
Perhaps you're pushpressing and not realizing it.
cuevas. PhD.
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Wow you're an asshole. You're going to assume that I have the wrong fucking form? Who the fuck do you think you are? Holy fucking shit, what a douche bag.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
I didn't assume anything, I offered an explanation to why you may be thinking it's easier. Hence the word perhaps. You're jumping to conclusions, and need to calm down.
FallingEdge
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cuevas. PhD.
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Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
I know what you were doing, and it's not even an intelligent mock.
You came out and said his form was wrong in that situation, I said perhaps you're doing something other than a strict press.
There's a difference.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=33594514&postcount=8309
There's the original post that you left out.
Anyhow, I see you're still on my nuts. I guess you never get tired of swinging, eh?
When I do 1rm (especially with bench) I take great precautions. With anything else I just drop the bar if I fail.
Ask anyone around you for a spot, I doubt anyone will say no.
cuevas. PhD.
Member
I know what you were doing, and it's not even an intelligent mock.
You came out and said his form was wrong in that situation, I said perhaps you're doing something other than a strict press.
There's a difference.
Anyhow, I see you're still on my nuts. I guess you never get tired of swinging, eh?
lol. And his form was wrong.
I just recently started doing standing presses, I used to do a lot of seated press with dumbbells, and while I can use 105lbs per hand with dumbbells seated, I had to start @ 155lbs when doing standing presses. I think standing is much harder, you can feel your abs coming into play as well.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
Just because that's known now doesn't mean it vindicates your post.
Any number of things could have caused his initial issue, but we've already been over that.
You're right, it's about time I just put him on ignore, his infatuation with me has gotten tired.
Relax, gentlemen. This thread isn't for drama.
On another note, I was watching the Hodge Twins and they mentioned one of my favorite exercises, the face pull! Virtually nobody I see at the gym ever really does rear delt exercises, so it was great to see the rear delts getting some coverage. I don't even do front-delt isolations anymore.
EDIT: Here's an interesting article regarding that and rotator cuff issues: http://www.t-nation.com/free_online...formance_repair/pushups_face_pulls_and_shrugs
On another note, I was watching the Hodge Twins and they mentioned one of my favorite exercises, the face pull! Virtually nobody I see at the gym ever really does rear delt exercises, so it was great to see the rear delts getting some coverage. I don't even do front-delt isolations anymore.
EDIT: Here's an interesting article regarding that and rotator cuff issues: http://www.t-nation.com/free_online...formance_repair/pushups_face_pulls_and_shrugs
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
Yeah, there's a lot more involved with a standing press.
I stopped doing DB press completely when I moved to barbell.
I think Xframe does them.
Also, I do rear delt work. Reverse flys and Wide grip bent over row.
There's a lot of things you can do for rear delts.
cuevas. PhD.
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But seriously shogun here is why I feel it's easier:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJFjYyA40ss
He even uses the same language, moving under the bar gives you leverage. Unless you call what's in that video "push press'.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJFjYyA40ss
He even uses the same language, moving under the bar gives you leverage. Unless you call what's in that video "push press'.
Good, I feel that rear delts are far too often ignored. With all the talk of military presses and other shoulder exercises, I just wanted to make sure everyone is aware of the awesome rear-delt exercises that deserve our attention
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
Good, I feel that rear delts are far too often ignored. With all the talk of military presses and other shoulder exercises, I just wanted to make sure everyone is aware of the awesome rear-delt exercises that deserve our attention
I BELIEVE press hits the entire delt, even the rear, but I'm not certain at all, in fact, I'm probably wrong. It might only work the lateral and front delts.
I just make sure to hit it again because like you, I'm under the impression that it's an oft neglected muscle.
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